Podcast
Music Not Diving with Scuba
Paul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.
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- Episodes
- 235
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 54 min
- On air since
- 2022
- Latest episode
- 6 days ago
Episodes
235 episodes, newest first
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1 hr 12 min
#58 Dusky on Deep House, Postdubstep, and the future of dance music
Season 2, Episode 58
Show notes
I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068
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Dusky are a production duo from the UK. Originally emerging on Anjunadeep with their debut album in 2011, they've been an important part of the UK dance scene in the past two decades with albums on Universal and their own label.
Their latest full-length, Signals, is out now and sees them back on the label where it all began.
We discuss their production process, the challenges of making a record outside their usual genre, and the way the new album came together. And we also cover their early years making DnB, the UK house explosion of the early 2010s, the golden era of postdubstep, and what the future may hold over the next decade.
Get involved, this is a good one!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
04:00 Early years and general scene
19:00 London Records project
39:45 More on production
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1 hr
#57 Sophie Lloyd: East 17, getting pigeonholed, and the London Records archive
Season 2, Episode 57
Show notes
I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068
Sign up for free to join our community.
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Sophie Lloyd is a DJ and producer from the UK. A staple of Defected Records and associated labels and promotions, this year she was invited to dig through the archives of London Records which resulted in standout EP 'London Revisited' - remixes of classics and deep cuts from the storied label.
We discuss all that of course, and also her journey from DJing at house parties, corporate events and eventually clubs and festivals, and getting into the world of production.
This is a good one, get involved!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
04:00 Early years and general scene
19:00 London Records project
39:45 More on production
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55 min
#56 Nathan Fake: Border Community, playing live, and the beauty of vintage Cubase
Season 2, Episode 56
Show notes
I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068
Sign up for free to join our community.
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Nathan Fake is a producer and live performer from the UK. He has released albums on Border Community, Ninja Tune, via his own channels, and most recently through French label InFiné.
That latest album, Evaporator, is discussed during the conversation, as well as his wider journey through production processes and methods of work. We discover which ancient version of Cubase is still his go-to DAW, and which synths and other studio objects are most often used in his tracks.
We also talk about his live set, which by his own admission is actually pretty good.
This is a good one with a guest we've wanted to have on for ages. Get involved!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
03:45 Fitting into the scene
07:30 Are albums relevant again?
12:40 Studio methods
26:30 Border Community and early career
47:30 Playing live
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1 hr 8 min
#55 Gavilán Rayna Russom: politics, DJing, analog synths, and LCD Soundsystem
Season 2, Episode 55
Show notes
I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Grab a ticket here: https://ra.co/events/2527068
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Gavilán Rayna Russom is a producer, DJ, and interdisciplinary artist based in New York. A former member of LCD Soundsystem, she has a new album under her Black Meteoric Star alias entitled Wet.
We discuss her time working at DFA and eventually joining and then leaving LCD Soundsystem, her previous time as an analog synth engineer, as well as the new album and the Black Meteoric Star alias more generally.
We also get into the political situation in the US and the way it affects her work, and also her long term journey as a DJ from playing the high school prom all the way to Berghain.
This is a good one, get involved!
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MERCH: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
04:00 LCD Soundsystem
21:00 Music and current politics
34:00 Recording methods and the new album
51:00 How to be a DJ
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54 min
#54 Jend: new ways of connecting music to people
Season 2, Episode 54
Show notes
I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Sign up for tix here: https://ra.co/pre/2527068
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Jend is a producer and DJ who has built an impressive following on streaming platforms and social media using a very interesting set of strategies adapting from his time in drop shipping. So we are getting deep into the weeds of digital music marketing on this week's podcast, and while it gets a bit technical in places this is a really interesting conversation from the perspective of building an audience completely independently in a way that just wasn't possible before the digital model.
He offers a version of his strategy via his Intellijend platform, which automates many of the processes and makes the whole thing a lot more manageable for the typical expert DAW technician who has never opened Facebook ad manager.
We talk about how he came up with these approaches to music marketing and how to implement them, building them into a product for other artists to use, and also the necessity for music to live in the real world and different ways to achieve this in a similar DIY way.
This is the antidote to moaning about Spotify and telling people to buy CDs... get involved!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
04:30 Jend
09:10 How to market a song
26:10 Cynicism, algorithms, and publishing
40:00 Dance music in the real world
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37 min
#53: How to be a DJ
Season 2, Episode 53
Show notes
I'm playing all night long at Venue MOT in London on 14 Nov. Sign up for tix here: https://ra.co/pre/2527068
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On the podcast this week...
What you need to do to become a DJ in 2026. I mean a good DJ.
Why you should learn to beat match, preferably on vinyl.
Why you should learn to use Ableton.
Why you should take digital marketing seriously.
Why you should respect the worst aspects of the industry.
This is not an exhaustive study, but it does contain some pretty good pointers.
The Resident DJ article mentioned: https://saxe-coulson.medium.com/the-resident-dj-is-infrastructure-too-b2cc760c6f69
The Manual by The KLF: https://www.scribd.com/document/955029/KLF-the-Manual
Back next week with a guest!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
01:10 DJing on hard mode
04:40 How to be a DJ
06:11 The techniques
10:35 The canon
12:20 The basics of Ableton
13:55 Warm up and closing
17:00 Being the headliner
19:45 Tell your story
23:20 Identity and tribes
25:25 Is all publicity good publicity?
30:50 The KLF and The Odyssey
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38 min
#52: Did the promise of AI-human hybrids drive the deals for Distrokid and Kobalt?
Season 2, Episode 52
Show notes
On this episode...
Why Distrokid selling to CVC will lead to more AI music.
What Kobalt selling to Primary Wave means for the majors.
Why the industry is counting on the hybrid musicians of the future.
Were the Odyssey casting decisions part of the marketing campaign?
And what Suki Waterhouse could learn from Boy George...!
Read my 2000 word essay on the Burial / dubstep conundrum: https://www.patreon.com/scubaofficial/posts/eyes-back-puzzle-164702147
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NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
02:59 Releases roundup
07:40 CVC buys Distrokid
15:27 Primary Wave buys Kobalt
21:10 AI copyright regulation
30:57 Suki Waterhouse and Boy George
35:50 Is Christopher Nolan a troll
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31 min
#51: Is the John Summit vs Pete Tong beef real?
Season 2, Episode 51
Show notes
Even if it's not just a very effective bit of marketing, John Summit should definitely turn heel.
On this episode we also discuss other notable examples of music industry creative stunts including Chuck D vs Flava Flav, Fifty Cent vs Kanye, Green Day vs The Network, and The KLF vs a million pounds.
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NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
02:41 John Summit vs Pete Tong
10:00 Chuck D vs Flava Flav
15:12 Green Day vs The Network
20:06 Fifty Cent vs Kanye West
23:05 Joaquin Phoenix
25:24 The KLF vs a million pounds
30:12 Conclusions
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54 min
#50: Dance Music Deserves To Be Destroyed By AI
Season 2, Episode 50
Show notes
No, really it does.
In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post.
As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two separate angles.
And finally we look at the increasing dominance of standup comedy in the ecosystem of live events.
I will never stand being accused of cynical ragebait!
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NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
03:58 Changes in the business of social media
08:08 dBridge Substack post
16:35 Is algorithmic influence any different to human influence?
19:44 Why musicians hate the press
24:52 Dance music deserves to be destroyed by AI
35:03 The success of standup comedy
41:37 Transgressive comedy vs music
51:48 Conclusions
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39 min
#49: Thoughts on Trillionaires
Season 2, Episode 49
Show notes
What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector?
And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality?
Weighty question on this episode of the podcast...
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
02:30 Elon, Tesla, and SpaceX
07:23 The Gilded Age
10:34 Andrew Carnegie
27:27 Busting the Trusts
31:24 Help needed now
36:36 How left wing are you?
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29 min
#48: I was WRONG about music and corporate money
Season 2, Episode 48
Show notes
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Corporate money is the wellspring of great art... discuss!
Also, the demise of Nina, Juno Download, and eventually Subvert.
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
03:18 Money and art
11:04 Downloads are dead
23.33 Conclusions
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1 hr 35 min
#47 Carl Craig: from Motown to Techno via The Electrifying Mojo
Season 2, Episode 47
Show notes
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Carl Craig is a producer, DJ, and label owner from Detroit.
A feature-length documentary, Desire: The Carl Craig Story, is available to stream now.
Listen to the reissue of 'Meditations' LP.
We discuss the history of Detroit music, the development of techno, the influence of other areas of popular culture on dance music, and the breadth of his musical experiences from playing guitar in bands as a teenager to being a current artist-in-residence at Michigan State University.
This is a conversation with a true legend who does not disappoint!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
02:00 The documentary
07:15 Judging artists' work
14:08 Jungle and the UK rave scene
20:29 Breakthrough and early material
25:20 Popular culture and dance music
31:55 Collaboration and solo work
35:48 Bring back guitars
41:55 The Electrifying Mojo
54:46 Techno and Motown
01:01:58 Frankfurt vs Berlin
01:08:50 Black music and diversity
01:19:47 Artist in residence at MSUFCU
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28 min
Bonus - Singles Club: 2 minute reviews of the UK Top 10
Show notes
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Singles Club is a series of podcasts we do over on our Patreon. Sign up for less than the price of a cup of coffee to get all 20+ episodes!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
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33 min
#46 The truth about Ticketmaster, and why Chaotic Good's unscrupulous marketing campaigns are actually good for music
Season 2, Episode 46
Show notes
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The bulk of this episode is a deep dive on the Live Nation / Ticketmaster situation.
We look at the system of practices that has developed since the merger in 2010, the recent ruling, and the possible future arrangements in a world where the ruling (currently subject to appeal) is put into practice.
But separately, we also discuss why the Chaotic Good marketing approach is actually a good thing for music...!
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Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1
You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/
If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to https://scubaofficial.io/support/.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Support the podcast
03:00 Is Chaotic Good actually good?
07:28 Ticketing
31:41 Closing
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35 min
#45 AI sceptics and the boomers who want to save independent music
Season 2, Episode 45
Show notes
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This week on Music Not Diving we decouple from the Youtube feed and get into the ongoing debate around AI. Sceptics like Ed Zitron have come to prominence with their doubts about the viability of business models of the big AI firms, but in music Suno is busily destroying artistry and the effect of the general LLMs has upended other bits of the industry too.
So what does this all mean?
And we also learn about the ceiling of the Rolls Royce Phantom and what that might mean for vintage mix consoles.
Bob Lefsetz piece on the Indie Alliance: https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2026/03/31/the-indie-alliance/
Shawn's referenced piece: firstfloor.substack.com/p/the-majors-are-ushering-in-an-era
Ted Gioia referenced piece: https://www.honest-broker.com/p/four-steps-to-hell
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Future of the pod
06:50 The Indie Alliance
12:30 Major labels and AI
15:00 AI scepticism
20:17 New Suno model
29:20 Rolls Royce and music
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33 min
#44 Watches and musical wonders: the Rolex-ification of music
Season 2, Episode 44
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What does the music industry have in common with Swiss watches? Quite a lot, as we discover on this solo episode of the podcast...
The latest Morgan Stanley Swiss watch industry report can be viewed here.
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00:00 Intro
05:52 The current landscape
10:08 Volume vs luxury
14.07 The key players
19.11 How the successful acts do it
24.32 Can listeners pick up the slack?
27.10 The real problem
30.20 Conclusions
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52 min
#43 Techno in India Part II: FILM on the challenges of making music in India
Season 2, Episode 43
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Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. This is part II...
Sanil Sudan, aka FILM, is one of the best electronic producers to come out of India. Based in New Delhi, he has been involved in all aspects of the scene over the past decade and more: DJing, promoting parties, running one of India’s first booking agencies (UnMute), as well as making beats as FILM and other aliases including the techno-focused Tyrell Dub Corp. '
We discuss his production process, differing approaches to studio techniques including classic synths and sampling, hidden resources to be found on Youtube, the challenges facing Indian producers, the development of a distinctive Indian sound, as well as his time spent in Berlin as part of the Border Movement Residency (BMR) program.
This is a great conversation with a big talent operating in a difficult environment. Get involved!
Check out El Sid mixes on Soundcloud.
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00:00 Intro
03:10 FILM
06:11 From pro-gamer to promoter
08:30 The "No more parties in Delhi" experiment
11:45 Learning Music Theory mid-Career
15:45 AI Slop and the value of human emotion
17:54 The cultural necessity of sampling
22:00 Studio talk
27:00 The Berlin border movement residency
32:30 Post-COVID clubbing & Spotify fatigue
37:30 The corporatisation of Boiler Room
41:45 Forging an authentic Indian sound
49:10 The global hustle for Indian DJs
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56 min
#42 Techno in India Part I: Kohra on building a scene from the ground up
Season 2, Episode 42
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Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India.
Kohra is a key figure in the modern iteration of techno in India. His label, Qilla Records, has been one of the most important outposts for Indian producers since 2011. And as a DJ, he has established himself as a similarly important voice across clubs and festivals both in India and on the global circuit. He's also a very interesting guy with a lot to say on the state of the scene right now, and also the history.
We discuss the scene in India compared to Europe and the US, the development of techno culture in India, the advance of western dance music brands into Asia, today's challenges in running labels, and his history in different areas of music.
This conversation is a great insight into the workings of the scene in India... get involved!
Part II will air next week.
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Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
02:45 Kohra
07:30 Local scenes
14:00 Western club brands in India
21:30 Politics and boycott culture
27:50 Kohra's journey into music
33:35 Production
42:08 Spending time in Melbourne
44:40 Jalebee Cartel
47:10 Running Qilla Records
53:30 Future of the scene in India
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1 hr 30 min
#41 Frank Wiedemann: Âme Live and the new wave of Berlin clubbing
Season 2, Episode 41
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Frank Wiedemann is one half of legendary German house duo Âme (he does the live shows and can probably be described as the lead producer). He's also a key figure in the Innervisions label, the Dixon/Âme axis, and also a member of other groups include Howling.
We discuss the new wave of electronic music nightlife in Berlin, the responsibilities of established acts to the wider scene, his processes in making music, and performance both as Âme and also in improvisational settings such as previous pod guest Sebastian Mullaert's Circle Of Live.
This is a good one, get involved!
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00:00 Intro
03:50 Berlin nightlife isn't dead
07:56 Events vs. clubbing
11:01 Should bigger artists give back?
14:18 The paradox of playing live
22:22 The new Ame album
31:30 Spotify is social media
38:14 From Jazz clubs to Robert Johnson
49:00 Innervisions at the Royal Albert Hall
55:49 The art of the 8-hour jam
01:04:52 Teaching and retreats
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1 hr 17 min
#40 Slipmatt: the rave revolution, hardcore vs jungle, and making an all-time classic
Season 2, Episode 40
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Slipmatt is one of the most important DJs in the history of dance music. From his first major gig at Raindance in 1989, he came to be known as the Godfather Of Hardcore, becoming synonymous with the genre that typified the UK rave sound in the early 90s. His 'SL2' project, with DJ Lime, yield two top-ten hits including the genre-defining 'On A Ragga Tip' that reached number 2 in the UK singes chart in May 1992.
He was also instrumental in emergence Jungle from the Hardcore scene, and produced classics including 'Hear Me' which typify the linearity between the two genres.
We discuss the pre-acid house period, the game-changing nature of the rave explosion both in music and society, and we get into his personal journey from bedroom producer to Top Of The Pops.
This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK dance music, get involved!
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Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
00:00 Intro
02:00 Episode start
04:55 What “Old School” really means
06:25 The split between Hardcore & Jungle
11:30 Bridging the divide
13:10 Bedroom producer beginnings
17:20 The lost art of studio mentorship
18:40 DJ Culture & skill obsession
24:15 First raves & Acid House reality
26:15 Birth of Raindance
27:40 Illegal → Legal Raves
29:10 Becoming a National DJ
30:40 Independence and management
32:10 The end of Illegal raving
33:10 Rave culture as a social & political movement
35:30 Media & moral panic
37:30 Policing, laws & the Criminal Justice Act Era
41:30 Legacy of early Rave culture
43:30 Personal reflections & looking back
47:00 Clearing samples
50:24 Top of the Pops and meeting Kylie
56:27 The Prodigy
59:31 Rage club and Jungle
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