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What If It Didn’t Fail? Breaking the All-or-Nothing Cycle

A simple framework for nature-based program founders and directors navigating perfectionism, control, and the pressure to get it all right.

What happens when something doesn’t go the way you planned—and your brain immediately decides it was a failure?

In this episode, Ade talks about all-or-nothing thinking, perfectionism, control, and the pressure founders and directors can put on themselves to get everything “right.” She shares a real story from a community gathering that didn’t turn out as expected—and how changing her lens completely changed what she was able to see.

You’ll walk away with a simple framework you can use when you feel yourself spiraling:

Pause. Notice. Connect. Release.

Plus, a reminder that the opposite of all-or-nothing thinking isn’t lowering your standards. It’s becoming willing to see what is actually here.

If you’re building or leading a nature-based, forest school, outdoor preschool, or play-based program, this one is for you.

Want support navigating the messy middle of program leadership?
Book a free 20-minute discovery call with Ade at:

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No pressure. Just a conversation about where you are and whether mentorship might be a helpful next step.

Taking Sick Days Without Guilt: Sustainable Leadership in Nature-Based Programs

For nature-based program founders and directors, taking a sick day isn't always as simple as calling out. When you're working with a small team, managing a tight budget, and wearing all the hats, it can feel impossible to step away—even when your body is telling you to slow down.

In this episode of The Nature-Based Director Podcast, I'm sharing a recent experience that reminded me why sustainable leadership has to include our own well-being. With the help of my staff and families, I learned to be honest about how I was feeling, accept support, adjust my workload, and stop confusing productivity with rest.

Because the community we're building with intention, purpose, and love? We get to let it take care of us, too.

In this episode, we'll talk about:

• Why taking sick time can feel so difficult when you're running a small nature-based program
• The challenges of finding staff coverage and managing a tight budget
• How to let your staff and families support you without feeling like you have to hold everything together
• Why answering emails, cleaning the house, or squeezing in a workout isn't necessarily rest
• How adjusting your expectations can support more sustainable leadership
• Why building a nature school that lasts means caring for the person leading it, too

A question to consider: If you needed to step away from your program for a day or two, what could wait, what could be delegated, and where could you allow yourself to receive support?

You don't have to do it all, and you don't have to do it alone.

Ready for support with your nature-based program?

If you're building or leading a nature-based preschool, forest school, or play-based early childhood program and want support navigating the realities of leadership, visit https://natureplayallday.com/mentorship to book a free 20-minute discovery call. No pressure or commitment—just a conversation about where you are and what support might help.

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Episode 49: The Families Who Are Watching: Trusting the Long Game of Relationship-Building Not every family who connects with your nature-based program will enroll right away—and that doesn't mean the relationship wasn't meaningful. In this episode, we’re talking about the long game of enrollment, community-building, and relationship-based marketing for nature-based program founders and directors. We’ll explore what it looks like to nurture relationships without constantly feeling like you're selling, trust families to move at their own pace, and recognize the value of the families who are quietly watching, learning, and waiting for the right season. Because people aren't funnels. They're people. If you're building a nature school, forest school, outdoor preschool, or play-based program, this is your reminder that the work you're doing today may bear fruit much later—and that's okay. In this episode, we talk about: Building genuine relationships with prospective families Taking the pressure off immediate enrollment Relationship-based marketing for nature-based programs Creating community before families are ready to enroll Staying connected without constantly selling Trusting the timing of enrollment and growth Why nurturing relationships is part of sustainable leadership Ready for support as you build and lead your nature-based program? Book a free 20-minute discovery call with me at: natureplayallday.com/mentorship No pressure or commitment—just a chance to talk about where you are, where you want to go, and whether mentorship might be a helpful partnership for you and your program. Keep tending the garden. The things you're nurturing today may bloom much later. 🌿

🎧 Episode 48: When Families Un-Enroll: How to Handle the Unexpected Without Spiraling

Grace, practical strategies, and trusting God through enrollment changes.

What happens when a family un-enrolls from your nature-based program—right before the school year begins or in the middle of the year?

For founders and directors, unexpected enrollment changes can bring more than logistical challenges. They can trigger panic, financial stress, self-doubt, and the feeling that somehow, you have done something wrong.

In this episode, I’m sharing a recent experience from my own program, where several families un-enrolled just weeks before programming began, and how I’m learning to lead through those unexpected changes without letting fear and shame take over.

We’ll talk about how to respond with grace, invite open and honest conversations, prepare practical options for families when possible, and separate what is actually happening from the story fear wants to tell us.

In this episode:

• Why un-enrollment can feel so personal to program founders
• Common reasons families leave a nature-based program
• How to pause before reacting from fear or panic
• When and how to invite an open conversation
• Financial strategies to consider, including payment plans or tuition flexibility
• Why having options prepared ahead of time can help you lead with clarity
• How to recognize the difference between curiosity and shame
• Trusting God's timing and provision when enrollment changes unexpectedly

Key takeaway:
An open space is not always an absence. Sometimes, it is an opening for provision you simply cannot see yet.

If you're carrying the invisible weight of enrollment, finances, policies, staffing, and the unexpected challenges of leading a nature- and play-based program, you don't have to figure it all out alone.

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The Best Nature-Based Programs Aren't Built Around One Person How to Build Sustainable Leadership That Lasts Leading a nature-based program can feel incredibly rewarding—and incredibly lonely. As founders and directors, we often become the person everyone depends on. We answer the questions, solve the problems, carry the vision, and hold countless details together behind the scenes. But sustainable leadership isn't about becoming indispensable. It's about building a community where children, families, and educators all have room to grow. In this final episode of our August series, we're exploring what stewardship looks like in practice and why the strongest programs are built through shared leadership, trust, and healthy relationships. In this episode, we'll explore: * The difference between ownership and stewardship. * Why healthy programs aren't dependent on one person. * What forests can teach us about shared leadership. * Practical ways to empower your team and cultivate future leaders. * Why asking thoughtful questions is often more powerful than having all the answers. Reflection Questions As you move into this school year, spend a few moments considering: * Where am I carrying responsibilities that could be shared? * How can I invite someone else to grow in confidence this week? * Where might control be limiting collaboration? * Who has encouraged my leadership journey, and who might I encourage in return? * What kind of leadership legacy do I hope to leave in my program? As We Close This Series... Over the past four episodes, we've explored what it means to lead with intention before the school year gains momentum. Together, we've reflected on: * Preparing yourself before preparing your program. * Intentionally cultivating the culture of your community. * Returning to your philosophy when life gets busy. * Building leadership that strengthens others and outlasts any one individual. My hope is that this series encourages you to move into the year with greater confidence, curiosity, and compassion—not only for the children you serve, but also for yourself. If these episodes have encouraged you, I'd love to stay connected. Whether through future podcast episodes, workshops, or one-on-one mentorship, my passion is walking alongside nature-based founders and directors as they build programs that are sustainable, deeply rooted, and true to their vision. You don't have to lead alone. If This Series Encouraged You... Please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing the podcast with another nature-based leader preparing for a new school year. Every conversation shared helps strengthen a growing community of educators committed to raising children with wonder, resilience, and a deep connection to the natural world. Remember: Healthy programs aren't built around one extraordinary leader. They're built by ordinary people who choose, day after day, to grow together.

Don't Lose Your Philosophy in September How Nature-Based Leaders Stay Grounded When the School Year Gets Busy Every August, we begin the school year with fresh vision and renewed purpose. But by mid-September, it's easy to find ourselves swept up in schedules, paperwork, unexpected challenges, and the daily demands of leadership. In this episode, we're talking about how to protect the values that inspired your work in the first place. Because your philosophy isn't something you establish once—it's something you practice every day through small, intentional choices. Whether you lead a forest school, nature preschool, homeschool enrichment program, or another child-centered learning community, this conversation is an invitation to notice when you've drifted and gently return to what matters most. In this episode, we'll explore: * Why even the most intentional leaders experience "drift." * How busyness can quietly pull us away from our philosophy. * The difference between leading from your calendar and leading from your values. * Why curiosity is one of the best indicators of healthy leadership. * Simple ways to reconnect with your purpose during the busiest weeks of the school year. Reflection Questions As the school year unfolds, spend a few moments considering: * Where have I felt most connected to my purpose this week? * What signs tell me I'm leading from pressure instead of presence? * Am I still curious about the children, my team, and my own leadership? * Which daily rhythms help me return to my values? * What is one small choice I can make tomorrow that better reflects the leader I want to be? If this episode encouraged you... Please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this conversation with another nature-based founder or educator who needs the reminder that they don't have to lead perfectly—they simply need to keep returning to what matters most. If you're longing for a place to process leadership challenges with someone who understands the unique realities of nature-based education, I'd love to support you through mentorship. Sometimes the greatest gift isn't another strategy—it's having someone help you stay rooted in your vision. Remember: Your philosophy isn't something you write once. It's something you practice, return to, and live—one ordinary moment at a time.

The Culture You're Hoping For Won't Happen by Accident. How Nature-Based Leaders Create a Strong School Culture from Day One The first weeks of school are about so much more than establishing routines. They're about establishing culture. As nature-based founders and directors, we spend time preparing our environments, organizing materials, and planning our days. But the strongest programs aren't remembered because of perfectly labeled shelves or polished lesson plans. They're remembered because of how people felt. In this episode, we're exploring how school culture is intentionally cultivated through the everyday interactions we have with children, families, and staff. Together, we'll look at what nature teaches us about creating the conditions for trust, belonging, curiosity, and joy to grow. In this episode, we'll explore: * Why culture is one of your most important leadership responsibilities. * The difference between creating rules and cultivating belonging. * What nature can teach us about healthy communities. * How children and staff experience culture through everyday interactions. * Practical ways to build trust and connection from the very first day of school. Reflection Questions As you prepare for opening day, consider: * What do I want children to feel when they arrive? * What do I want families to experience when they entrust us with their children? * What do I want my staff to believe about working here? * Which three words best describe the culture I'm hoping to cultivate? * What can I intentionally do this week to bring those words to life? If this episode encouraged you... Please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing it with another nature-based founder or early childhood leader preparing for a new school year. And if you're looking for support as you build a thriving, sustainable nature-based program, I'd love to walk alongside you through mentorship. Sometimes the greatest gift a leader can have is someone to ask thoughtful questions, offer perspective, and help them stay rooted in what matters most. Remember: Culture isn't something that happens by accident. It's cultivated—one relationship, one interaction, and one intentional choice at a time.

Show Notes Your Children Don't Need a Perfect Program. They Need a Present Leader. How Nature-Based Directors Can Prepare for a New School Year It's August, and if you're anything like me, your mind is already racing ahead to opening day. The supply lists. Staffing. Enrollment. Curriculum. Systems. The projects you've been hoping to finish before children arrive. Preparation matters. But over the years, I've realized that the most important thing I prepare each August isn't my classroom or our basecamp. It's myself. In this first episode of our August series, we're talking about what it means to prepare your heart, your attention, and your leadership before preparing your program. Because the foundation you build as a leader will shape every relationship, rhythm, and routine that follows. If you're a forest school founder, nature-based preschool director, outdoor educator, or anyone leading a child-centered program this fall, this conversation is for you. In this episode, we'll explore: * Why preparing yourself is just as important as preparing your environment. * How to recognize the subtle signs that you're slipping into hurry and survival mode. * The difference between building a perfect program and building a present leadership practice. * Why new ideas, traditions, and programs need time to build their foundation. * How slowing down allows you to become more available to children, families, and your team. Reflection Questions Before opening day, spend a little quiet time with these questions: * Who do I want the first child to meet? * Who do I want my staff to work beside? * Who do I want families to experience? * What does hurry sound like in my own mind? * What helps me return to presence when I feel myself slipping into survival mode? If this episode resonated with you... I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review, or share this episode with another nature-based leader who's preparing for a new school year. And if you're looking for a thought partner as you build a sustainable, child-centered program, I'd love to connect. Through mentorship, I walk alongside founders and directors who want to lead with greater clarity, confidence, and intention. **Remember: Your children don't need a perfect program. They need a present leader.

The Summer Reset Series – Episode 3 As founders and directors, it's easy to become the person who holds everything together. We answer every question. We solve every problem. We carry the vision, the logistics, the relationships, and the responsibility. While that may feel like good leadership, over time it can also become one of the biggest barriers to building a healthy, sustainable program. In this final episode of The Summer Reset Series, we're exploring what it means to move from being indispensable to becoming a leader who equips others, builds trust, and creates a program that can flourish long into the future. Because sustainable leadership isn't about doing everything yourself—it's about creating the conditions where children, educators, and your program can all thrive. In this episode, we'll explore: * Why founders often become the "keeper of everything." * The difference between being indispensable and building something that lasts. * What healthy ecosystems can teach us about leadership. * How empowering your team creates stronger programs. * Small shifts that help you move from carrying everything to cultivating shared leadership. Reflection Questions Take a few quiet moments this week and consider: * Where am I holding on more tightly than I need to? * What responsibilities could I begin sharing with someone else? * Where am I unintentionally becoming a bottleneck in my own program? * How can I create opportunities for my team to grow in confidence and leadership? * If I stepped away for a day, what systems or relationships would continue to support the program? Remember, sustainable leadership isn't about letting go of your vision—it's about creating a culture where that vision can thrive beyond your own capacity. As We Close the Summer Reset Series... Over the past four episodes, we've explored what it looks like to slow down, pay attention, and lead with greater intention. Together, we've reflected on: * Why leadership begins with paying attention. * The questions worth asking before planning your next season. * What your program might be trying to teach you. * How to build a program that doesn't depend entirely on you. My hope is that you move into this next season not with a longer to-do list, but with greater clarity, curiosity, and confidence in the leader you're becoming. Want to Keep the Conversation Going? If these episodes have resonated with you, I'd love to invite you to continue the journey. Through one-on-one mentorship, I work alongside nature-based founders and directors who are building child-centered, play-based programs and want support navigating leadership, sustainable growth, enrollment, staffing, and the everyday realities of running a thriving nature-based program. You don't have to figure it all out alone. You can learn more by connecting with me on Instagram, visiting my website, or reaching out to start a conversation. I'd love to hear your story. www.natureplayallday.com/mentorship If this series encouraged you... Please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing the podcast with another founder or educator who could use a little encouragement as they prepare for the season ahead. Your support helps more nature-based leaders discover these conversations and strengthens a growing community of educators committed to raising children with wonder, resilience, and connection to the natural world. Remember: Don't just make time to work *on* your program. Make time to listen to what it's trying to teach you. Because healthy programs grow from healthy leaders.

The Summer Reset Series – Episode 2 As nature-based educators, we spend so much of our time observing children. We watch before we intervene. We notice patterns. We stay curious. We trust that careful observation often reveals more than immediate action. But what if we led our programs the same way? In this episode of The Summer Reset Series, we're exploring a simple question that has completely changed the way I approach leadership: "What is my program trying to teach me?" Instead of viewing every challenge as a problem to fix, we'll explore how curiosity can help us uncover what our programs, teams, and daily rhythms are revealing. Sometimes the greatest breakthroughs don't come from working harder—they come from paying closer attention. Whether you're navigating staffing challenges, enrollment concerns, parent communication, or simply feeling stuck, this episode is an invitation to slow down and become a student of your own leadership. In this episode, we'll explore: * Why observation is one of the most valuable leadership skills you can develop. * The difference between reacting to challenges and learning from them. * How children naturally model curiosity, resilience, and experimentation. * Why every difficult season has something to teach us. * How paying attention can lead to clearer, more sustainable decisions. Reflection Questions Take a notebook outside this week and spend a little time with these questions: * What keeps happening in my program? * Where do I consistently feel tension? * What keeps bringing joy? * What continues to surprise me? * If I stopped seeing this as a problem to solve, what might I discover instead? You don't need to have all the answers. The goal isn't to solve everything today—it's to notice what your leadership has been trying to show you. Coming Up Next: In the final episode of The Summer Reset Series, we'll explore what it means to stop building a program that depends entirely on you. We'll talk about sustainable leadership, creating healthy systems, empowering your team, and why the strongest programs aren't built around one indispensable person—they're built around a shared vision that can flourish long into the long into the future. If this episode encouraged you... I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review, or share this episode with another nature-based founder, forest school leader, or outdoor educator who's walking through a challenging season. And if these conversations have you thinking differently about your own leadership, I'd love to continue that conversation. Mentoring nature-based founders and directors is one of my greatest joys, and I'll be sharing more about ways we can work together in future episodes. Remember: Don't just make time to work *on* your program. Make time to listen to what it's trying to teach you.

Fall planning has a way of sneaking up on us. Before we know it, we're thinking about curriculum, enrollment, staffing, schedules, and all the things we want to improve for the coming year. But before you dive into another planning session, what if you paused long enough to reflect? In this episode of The Summer Reset Series, I'm sharing the five questions I return to every summer before I make decisions about the next season. These questions have helped me lead with greater clarity, simplify what no longer serves our program, and reconnect with the heart of why I do this work. If you're a nature-based founder, forest school director, outdoor educator, or anyone leading a child-centered program, this episode is an invitation to slow down, pay attention, and plan from a place of intention rather than urgency. In this episode, we'll explore: * Why reflection should come before planning. * Five powerful questions to guide your fall planning. * How to identify what energized you—and what quietly drained you. * Why children's engagement offers some of the best feedback you'll ever receive. * The importance of making small, intentional changes instead of overhauling everything at once. Your Summer Reset Reflection Take your journal somewhere outside this week and spend a little time with these questions: 1. What gave me energy this year? 2. What consistently drained me? 3. Where did the children come alive? 4. What am I holding onto that my program has outgrown? 5. What is one small change that could make the biggest difference? You don't have to answer them all in one sitting. Let them stay with you. Pay attention to what keeps resurfacing over the next few days. Coming Up Next In our next episode, "What Your Program Is Trying to Teach You", we'll explore how the most challenging moments in leadership often become our greatest teachers—and why curiosity is one of the most important leadership skills we can cultivate. If this episode encouraged you... I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review, or share this episode with another nature-based educator or program leader who's beginning to think about fall. And if these conversations are helping you think differently about your leadership, stay tuned. Later this summer, I'll be sharing more about ways we can work together through mentorship for nature-based founders and directors who want to build thriving, sustainable programs. Until next time... Don't just make time to work *on* your program. Make time to listen to what it's trying to teach you.

Before You Rush Into Fall... One Last Summer Conversation Before We Reset As nature-based educators and program founders, it's easy to believe that every spare moment of summer should be spent planning for fall. Curriculum, enrollment, staffing, marketing, supplies—there's always one more thing to do. But what if your most important work this summer isn't creating another plan? What if it's paying attention? In this final episode of the Sustainable Summer Series, we're slowing down before jumping into the next season. Together, we'll explore why nature models healthy leadership, how reflection can bring clarity, and why the strongest programs are built by leaders who make space to notice what truly matters. If you're feeling stretched thin or wondering how to move into fall with more intention and less overwhelm, this conversation is for you. In this episode, you'll discover: Why slowing down can make you a stronger leader. What nature teaches us about seasons of growth and restoration. Four reflection questions to help you prepare for the fall. How paying attention can reveal the next right step for your program. Why healthy leadership creates healthier learning communities. Reflection Questions Take your journal outside this week and spend some time with these questions: • What surprised me this year? • What challenged me? • What brought me the most joy? • What felt heavier than it should have? You don't need to have all the answers today. Sometimes the most meaningful insights come when we create space to notice. Coming Next Month Next Monday, we're kicking off The Summer Reset Series—four conversations designed to help nature-based founders and directors lead the next season with greater clarity, confidence, and sustainability. We'll explore: Five questions every nature-based director should ask before fall. What your program might be trying to teach you. How to build a program that doesn't depend entirely on you. Leading with intention instead of reacting to every challenge. If you're ready to build a thriving nature-based program without sacrificing yourself in the process, you won't want to miss it. If this episode encouraged you... I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with another nature-based educator or founder who could use this reminder today. Your support helps more leaders discover that sustainable programs begin with sustainable leadership. Connect with me: Instagram: @natureplayallday Website: www.natureplayallday.com Interested in mentorship for nature-based founders and directors? Stay tuned—I'll be sharing more about ways we can work together throughout this upcoming series. Remember: Healthy programs grow from healthy leaders.

Episode 3: Leading Summer Programs Without Burning Out Practical Support for Nature-Based Directors and Outdoor Educators As we wrap up our Sustainable Summer Series, we're zooming out to talk about leadership. Summer has a way of revealing what's working in our programs—and what isn't. From staffing challenges and enrollment pressures to overextending ourselves in the name of serving others, this season often shines a light on the systems, habits, and leadership patterns that need our attention. In this episode, Ade shares how to lead summer programs in a way that protects your energy, supports your team, and helps you arrive in the fall with clarity instead of exhaustion. In This Episode: Why summer often exposes weak systems and unrealistic expectations The difference between sustainable leadership and overextension How to steward your energy, capacity, and program well Why growth should never come at the expense of your well-being How the decisions you make this summer impact your fall program year Key Takeaway: A program that only functions when the director is exhausted is not a sustainable program. Whether you're leading a forest school, nature-based preschool, outdoor learning program, or summer camp, this episode will encourage you to build rhythms, systems, and boundaries that support both your mission and the human leading it. For nature-based founders, directors, and outdoor educators who want to lead with clarity, sustainability, and confidence.

Episode 2: Summer Survival for Nature-Based Educators Staying Regulated, Hydrated, and Human During Camp Season Summer camps and outdoor programs don't have to be packed with activities to be meaningful. In this episode, Ade shares why simple rhythms, realistic expectations, and regulated adults are often the secret ingredients to a successful summer season. If you've ever felt pressure to entertain children every minute of the day or create a "Pinterest-perfect" camp experience, this episode is your permission to simplify. You'll learn practical ways to support both children and educators through the busiest months of the year while protecting your energy and preserving the joy that brought you to this work in the first place. In This Episode: Why simple rhythms create stronger summer programs The importance of protecting the hottest part of the day How boredom can lead to creativity and deeper play Why children need grounded adults more than constant entertainment Creating sustainable summer routines that support everyone Key Takeaway: Children don't need a cruise director—they need a grounded adult. Perfect for nature-based directors, outdoor educators, forest school leaders, camp facilitators, and anyone looking to create a more sustainable and joyful summer season.

HOW TO AVOID SUMMER BURNOUT IN OUTDOOR EDUCATION Heat, Hydration, Boundaries, and Sustainable Summer Rhythms Summer programming is magical—but it can also be physically, mentally, and emotionally demanding. In this episode, Ade shares practical strategies for avoiding burnout during camp season, including hydration, nutrition, simplifying expectations, and recognizing the signs of dysregulation before they become exhaustion. Whether you're leading a nature-based program, forest school, outdoor classroom, or summer camp, this conversation is a reminder that sustainable leadership begins with caring for yourself, too. In This Episode: Why summer burnout looks different than school-year burnout The connection between hydration, regulation, and energy Signs you may be overriding your own needs How to simplify summer programming without sacrificing quality Why caring for yourself is part of effective leadership Key Takeaway: Your goal this summer isn't to survive camp season—it's to arrive in the fall still feeling like yourself. For nature-based directors, forest school leaders, outdoor educators, and camp facilitators who want to lead sustainably without burning out.

The end of the school year often leads straight into summer planning—but if you’re a nature-based director, forest school leader, or outdoor educator, skipping reflection can lead to burnout. In this episode, Ade shares why it’s essential to pause, process, and close your program year before jumping into what’s next. You’ll walk away with simple reflection prompts and a clearer, more grounded approach to sustainable leadership in outdoor learning environments. If you’re feeling the pressure to keep going, this is your reminder: you don’t need a plan yet—you need space.

Feeling burned out in the classroom—even though you still love the work? In this episode, Ade shares five practical ways to reignite joy, connection, and creativity when teaching starts to feel heavy. From putting the phone down and stepping back into play, to taking your cohort beyond the fence line and introducing collaborative storytelling, these simple shifts can breathe fresh life into your days without overhauling your whole program. Whether you’re a founder, director, or teacher wearing all the hats, this episode is a reminder that burnout does not always mean it’s time to quit—sometimes it means something needs to shift. In this episode, we cover: How constant documentation may be draining your presence Why collaborative projects can reset group energy The power of changing your environment when routines feel stale How modeling restful connection impacts children and educators alike Why storytelling can transform confidence, creativity, and cohort dynamics What burnout may actually be trying to tell you as a leader If you’re in a season of depletion, this one is for you.

Running a nature- and play-based program comes with beautiful, meaningful work—but also incredibly hard, often invisible decisions. In this episode, we talk about what it really looks like to lead when things feel uncertain, emotional, and high-stakes. From questioning whether a family is the right fit mid-year, to navigating weather cancellations and running out of snow days, to holding firm to policies when your heart wants to bend—this is the side of leadership no one prepares you for. If you’ve ever found yourself second-guessing decisions, people-pleasing, or quietly holding the weight of your program alone, this episode will remind you that you’re not doing it wrong—you’re doing the real work of leadership.

Is play really rigorous? In this episode, Ade unpacks why play is not a break from learning—but the deepest, most demanding form of it. If you’re leading a nature- and play-based program and ever feel pressure to prove that “real learning” is happening, this conversation will reframe everything. We explore what rigor actually means, why adults struggle to trust play, and how protecting play transforms your leadership, confidence, and daily rhythms outdoors.

Show Notes & Links: Referenced in this episode: Episode 25: Three Steps to Launching Your Nature-Based Program from Scratch The Nature Play Blueprint: 4-Week Intensive Mentorship 1:1 Mentorship with Ade — individualized support for directors, founders, and facilitators Topics covered: Defining and refining your vision Creating systems that support your energy and growth The importance of mentorship and community Why sustainability is more than just funding Ideal for: Nature-based educators, directors, and founders looking to strengthen their foundation and prevent burnout.