Podcast

Nonsense on Ice

Hobbies, Leisure, Sports

Join Doug Plagens for a weekly dose of hockey collectibles conversation. You can expect to hear about hockey news and how it relates to the hobby, as well as the latest hockey card releases, young players to know, and much more!

Episodes
52
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
1 hr 1 min
On air since
2025
Latest episode
4 days ago

Episodes

52 episodes, newest first

  1. Helping Jesse Gibson Prepare for His First Hockey Show

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    Jesse Gibson from Sports Cards Nonsense and Hobby Nonsense joins Doug this week as he's getting ready for the Toronto Card Show as well as a trip to the Hockey Hall of Fame with Upper Deck. Doug wanted Jesse to stop by so he could give him some tips and what to keep an eye out for at the card show.

    Plus, we get into the CGC Hobby 3 Stars and rip a box of Upper Deck Ice this week.

    0:00 - Introducing Jesse Gibson

    2:50 - The power of nostalgia

    8:45 - What is Jesse looking forward to most in Toronto?

    11:15 - What should Jesse look for at a hockey-centric card show?

    14:30 - Defensemen are a little more acceptable to collect in hockey than in other sports, and how Jesse can target some cheaper defensemen.

    31:00 - Americans to target in the Canadien market

    38:45 - Doug's tips for Jesse in Toronto

    52:00 - Hockey market update

    54:10 - Connor Helleybuck traded immediately after the show last week

    1:03:20 - CGC Hobby 3 Stars

    1:04:55 - Upper Deck Stature released this week, and looking at some of the top sales from release week.

    1:09:00 - Why didn’t Harry Kane see a bump after winning the Ballon d’Or?

    1:14:20 - Upper Deck Ice Rip

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    1 hr 21 min
  2. Is McDavid the Best Modern GOAT to Buy in Sports?

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    Doug is in Pittsburgh as the Panthers take on the Penguins. Is Connor McDavid the best modern GOAT without a championship? Doug and Brendan discuss the top six players without a championship, where McDavid ranks, and how the hockey market's growth should only help McDavid moving forward. Plus, Doug covers the latest NHL news and early-season award favorites and how it relates to their card markets.

    0:00 - Doug is in Pittsburgh

    9:15 - Modern GOATs without a championship: Is McDavid the best buy?

    17:30 - Doug and Brendan debate McDavid vs. Luka, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Trout & more.

    28:00 - NHL news

    43:20 - Early-season award favorites

    46:00 - Value Vintage Pick of the Week

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    1 hr 16 min
  3. Communication Breakdowns in the Hobby

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    Doug kicks off Nonsense on Ice this week with the latest hockey market data. Then Producer Brendan and Doug discuss communication breakdowns and what we owe each other in negotiations. Plus, eBay etiquette for negotiations.

    Doug then dives into declining gem rates at PSA and the latest NHL news. We wrap up with Doug's Upper Deck Series 1 rip and an update on the SCN Challenge!

    0:00 - The latest in the hockey market

    9:50 - eBay/negotiation etiquette

    20:30 - Declining gem rates across PSA

    24:30 - CGC Submission Recap

    29:00 - Upper Deck Release Calendar

    36:25 - NHL News - Shesterkin injury, Porter Martone upside questions

    49:00 - Cole Hutson setting the tone early for Calder Trophy

    51:45 - Doug got Beavis & Butthead cards

    1:01:00 - Series 1 Rip

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    1 hr 9 min
  4. Big News from Alex Ovechkin

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    Doug opens the show looking at the latest Card Ladder index numbers for the hockey market. Plus, some breaking news out of Upper Deck's Series 1 with Gavin McKenna. Alex Ovechkin announced his retirement this week. Producer Brendan is a big Caps fan, and gives his reaction as well. Paul Zickler of Upper Deck joins to discuss Series 1, Gavin McKenna, and much more!

    0:00 - Intro and Hockey Card Ladder Index

    4:50 - Series 1 Reactions and the Ultra-Rare Gavin McKenna

    12:00 - Ovi Retirement

    19:30 - CGC 3 Stars of the Week

    24:35 - Intro for Paul Zickler

    26:25 - Were the prospects at The National excited for their first rookie card

    30:05 - Tim Hortons set is a great way for Upper Deck

    35:35 - The updates to Upper Deck Ice have been a hit

    41:50 - What has the buzz been for the 2026-27 rookie class?

    43:35 - Upper Deck Moments

    51:15 - The hockey boom continues and how Upper Deck is trying to continue the momentum

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    1 hr 10 min
  5. Series 1 Young Guns Preview + Sooz from CGC

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    Doug is back with Nonsense on Ice, and we have the official breakdown of the Young Guns checklist from Series 1 Upper Deck Hockey. Plus, Sooz from CGC joins to discuss her journey in the hobby, her path to CGC, and her massive Jeter collection. Wrap up with Upper Deck ICE rip.

    0:00 - Intro + Gem Rate Data

    7:00 - What the Knies-Marchenko trade meant for the hobby

    12:00 - Series 1 Young Guns Breakdown

    20:00 - Introducing Susan Lulgjuraj and how this is the most exciting time to be in the hobby she can ever remember

    23:00 - Sooz began her Derek Jeter collection at 16 and now has over 3000+ cards

    26:30 - How Sooz started at CGC and watching the growth of CGC

    32:50 - CGC’s mission beyond just grading, but to educate and help collectors

    33:45 - What would it mean to grade 1 million cards in a month?

    36:15 - How CGC is working with collectors to work on authenticity

    39:10 - Favorite Derek Jeter card

    44:00 - Cards are cool again and Sooz’s goal is to get people to care about cards

    45:45 - CGC’s goal is to remove the barrier to grading to not make it so daunting

    53:40 - What is the process outside of the US to get the word out about CGC?

    1:00:00 - SCN Challenge Update

    1:17:10 - Upper Deck ICE Rip

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    1 hr 30 min
  6. Is Celebrini The Best Buy in Sports Cards?

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    Doug is back and breaks down the latest NHL news and looks at the hockey market as it currently stands as preseason games are starting. Plus, we look into the SCN Challenge as Brendan and Doug tumbled down the ranks after the latest update. Is Macklin Celebrini the best buy amongst young players in sports cards? Doug and Brendan think so!

    0:00 - Intro

    6:40 - Connor Helleybuck is still a Jet, somehow.

    12:00 - SCN Challenge Update

    27:30 - Where does Macklin Celebrini rank amongst young stars in sports?

    41:10 - Doug makes NHL Playoff predictions

    52:00 - Artifacts Rip

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    1 hr 3 min
  7. A Holdout Could Have Massive Hobby Implications

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    Doug is back for another episode of Nonsense on Ice, but a lot of the nonsense this week is happening off the ice. There was tons of news this week, with big extensions and an even bigger holdout that could have massive hobby implications. Plus, the latest on the SCN Challenge and ripping UD Premier!

    0:00 - Intro & Card Ladder Index

    8:00 - Upper Deck Ice & UD Release Calendar

    18:00 - NHL News - why we saw a flurry of 8-year deals on Tuesday.

    21:30 - Why Ryan Leonard and the Caps are a good buy for breaks for 2026-27.

    25:35 - Connor Helleybuck situation could have massive hobby ripple effects

    34:00 - SCN Challenge w/ Brendan

    48:45 - Upper Deck Premier Rip

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    56 min
  8. Crossing Over a $1M Card?

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    The Macklin Celebrini Gold Outburst 1/1 was crossed over from a PSA Authentic to... TAG? Yes, apparently TAG got the biggest hockey card of the year to cross over from PSA. Should you grade a 1/1? Does the company you grade with matter (hint: yes)? Plus, what is the ceiling for Macklin Celebrini? We also preview The SCN Challenge.

    0:00 - Intro and card ladder index notes

    11:15 - The Macklin Celebrini $1M gets cross-graded to TAG, got a TAG 8.

    23:15 - Seeing a card in a wild, you want it slabbed by one of the big four grading companies.

    24:30 - NHL News and Notes

    31:20 - Matthew Schaeffer set for a big Year 2, like Macklin Celebrini, and still just 19.

    33:10 - CGC Name to Know: Nick Lardis, Chicago

    36:30 - Doug’s latest CGC submission and his plan for grading in the future.

    43:20 - Upper Deck NHL calendar

    45:40 - SCN Challenge

    57:45 - O-Pee-Chee Platinum Rip

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    1 hr 9 min
  9. The Best Young Players to Collect

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    Doug is joined this week by NHL Network and long-time NHLer Jason Demers. Jason is a big collector, but not just in hockey. He breaks down the best young players to target and looks at some of the big names he has big cards of. Plus, he talks about how he got into the hobby with Phil Kessel and what his collection looks like now.

    0:00 - Introducing NHL Network’s Jason Demers

    2:30 - How did Jason get into TV after his career in the NHL?

    8:00 - Getting into the content space after being a player

    11:40 - The ceiling for Macklin Celebrini is the best player in the league; he’s already top 5 in the league.

    17:00 - Looking at other top young players in the league and why Conor Bedard is undervalued

    22:00 - Jason has always been part of the hobby, but Cole Makar and Matthew Scheeffer have been the two players he has been chasing.

    31:00 - Going through some of Jason’s big cards.

    34:00 - Jason has a lot of big Josh Allen and Jordan Love rookie cards as well.

    35:45 - Phil Kessel got him into cards, and they would get into breaks together.

    45:00 - Looking back at Jason’s collection and how impressive it was

    57:00 - GemRate numbers for August

    1:03:00 - Team Canada Rip

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    1 hr 13 min
  10. Golden Age of Defensemen

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    Doug is back this week, and the hockey market remains strong despite being out of season. Looking at the hobby market in general, with new products for the 2026-27 season. Will Quinn Hughes see a hobby bump? Plus, it is the golden age of defensemen in the hobby.

    0:00 - Intro and quick look at the hobby market

    5:30 - Card Ladder NHL Market

    11:00 - Will Quinn Hughes see a bump after his extension?

    20:00 - The era of collectible defensemen

    27:05 - “Golden Age of Defensemen” and can’t let that deter you from collecting

    37:00 - Macklin Celebrini market post-1/1 sale

    45:50 - Clear Cut Hockey Rip

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    53 min
  11. Record-Shattering Hockey Sale

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    Doug is back for another week of Nonsense on Ice, discussing the biggest hockey card ever for anyone other than Wayne Gretzky. Where does the Celebrini market go from here? Plus, looking at how the Shaq market is exploding and how finding 90s inserts and undervalued players is possible across all markets. Wrapping up with an Upper Deck Team Canada rip!

    0:00 - Intro

    7:15 - A huge Macklin Celebrini sale

    17:00 - Upper Deck Release Calendar

    27:10 - Shaq 90s insert market is on fire; how can you identify inserts across all sports to collect

    45:30 - Looking at young, talented teams in the NHL for card value

    53:30 - Upper Deck Team Canada Rip

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    1 hr 1 min
  12. A Record-Breaking Celebrini Card & CCG President Max Spiegel

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    Doug is back with Max Spiegel of CCG (the parent company of CGC) to discuss the growth of CGC, the success they had at The National, a new record CGC sale, and his own path of collecting. Plus, the hockey community will set the new highest-selling non-Gretzky card this weeknd thanks to Macklin Celebrini.

    0:00 - Intro with Max Spiegel, President of CCG (and CGC).

    1:35 - CGC is scaling without sacrificing quality.

    11:35 - What is Max collecting now?

    16:20 - A new record for a card sale in a CGC slab

    22:30 - A new era of collecting

    29:05 - Macklin Celebrini 1/1 Gold Outburst will be the highest-selling non-Wayne Gretzky hockey card ever.

    36:30 - Doug pre-grading cards before sending off some big cards to CGC

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    48 min
  13. Post-National Reactions & Jason Masherah of Upper Deck

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    Doug is back from The National with some new pickups, some fun stories, and more. Plus, we get into the Upper Deck 2026-27 Release Calendar, one of the most surprising contracts in the NHL, and ripping some Ultimate Collection. We wrap up with Doug and Mike Gio's interview with Jason Masherah, the President of Upper Deck, from The National.

    0:00 - Intro and Upper Deck Release Calendar

    8:20 - One of the most surprising contracts in the NHL

    12:25 - Recapping The National

    30:20 - The National reinvigorating The Hobby

    33:30 - Ultimate Collection Rip

    35:50 - Jason Masherah Interview from The National

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    1 hr 15 min
  14. Gordy Bonker on the Vintage Hockey Market

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    Doug is joined by Gordy Bonker to discuss all things vintage hockey and the power of Wayne Gretzky. How much has Gordy dealt in the high-end Gretzky market? Plus, looking at the vintage market as a whole.

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    39 min
  15. Best Tips for The National

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    With The National less than a week away Doug dives in deep on his best tips for the show, looking ahead to what he's most excited about, and also some plans for the week!

    0:00 - Intro and Looking ahead to The National

    6:15 - Upper Deck Release Calendar

    12:00 - The National Preview and Advice

    27:00 - Brendan's question for The National.

    34:00 - Ripping SP Authentic

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    42 min
  16. Upper Deck Wins 2026 Sports Card of the Year

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    Doug opens the show discussing Macklin Celebrini's Upper Deck The Cup 1/1 Rookie Patch Auto winning the 2026 ESPY for Sports Card of the Year. Plus, we look at the NHL card market and Conor Bedard's market after his injury to see how the public is responding. Doug opens packs of 2025-26 SP Game Used CHL for the break of the week.

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    43 min
  17. Collecting While Touring with Nick Ghanbarian of Bayside

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    Nick Ghanbarian from Bayside joins Doug to discuss being a hockey collector in California, what it is like collecting on the road while out on tour with Bayside, and more. Plus, a crazy story about hitting up estate sales for cards. That and much more on a special edition of Nonsense on Ice with the bassist from one of Doug's favorite bands and a major collector!

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    1 hr 14 min
  18. Names to Target in the NHL Offseason

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    Alex Ovechkin is back for Year 22 in the NHL with the Washington Capitals. Plus, a quick review of the 2026 NHL Draft and the Hobby 3 Stars of the Week.

    Doug breaks down the offseason names to know in the NHL and which players could have a big 2026-27 that are a bargain now.

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    58 min
  19. Offseason Nonsense; CGC's Big Push

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    On this week's episode of Nonsense on Ice, Doug looks at the crazy trades happening around the NHL, rips a little Extended Series, and sits down with Andy Broome from CGC.

    0:00 - Intro the show and intro Andy Broome, VP of CGC

    4:30 - Early SP Authentic Sales and a few big Future Watch autographs already sold

    8:20 - Intro to Andy Broome, VP of CGC, and CGC’s action plan for growth and hiring more people

    14:45 - CGC going global with offices in China, the Middle East, and Europe, and how this is a signal of strength in the hobby.

    16:00 - How does someone become a card grader?

    23:05 - How is CGC working on stopping alterations and counterfeits

    30:30- Why transparency is important to CGC and how they are adding more educational resources for collectors.

    38:20 - Partnership with JSA and the ability to grade in-person autos seamlessly

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    59 min
  20. How Upper Deck Preps for the NHL Draft!

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    On this episode of Nonsense on Ice, Doug looks back at the career of Jonathan Toews. We also have a big sponsorship announcement! Plus, Amanda Whitaker-Smith from Upper Deck joins ahead of the NHL Draft!

    0:00 - Intro - Setting up Upper Deck x NHL Draft!

    2:30 - CGC Partnership Announcement

    7:45 - Jonathan Toews announces his retirement, something to dive into deeper next week.

    10:00 - Matthew Schaeffer Debut Game Jersey Auto only around $4100 with 7 hours to go.

    22:00 - Value Vintage Pick - Rod Brind’Amour

    27:30 - Amanda Whitaker-Smith from Upper Deck joins Doug

    29:50 - Upper Deck’s role with the NHL Draft

    37:15- Looking at these recent rookie classes and how Upper Deck has handled them. Plus, the start of the Debut Game Jersey program.

    40:00 - How Amanda got into sports marketing and how it works on the collectibles side.

    55:15- NHL Draft Preview

    57:50 - Doug rips extended series

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    1 hr 2 min