Podcast

Perpetual Complication

Hobbies, Leisure

Perpetual Complication is a podcast about watches and collecting, hosted by Kathleen McGivney and Adam Craniotes, cofounders of RedBar, the largest international watch collecting community. They have a lot of knowledge and mostly grumpy opinions.

Episodes
2
Releases
Every two weeks
Typical length
49 min
On air since
2026
Latest episode
1 week ago

Episodes

2 episodes, newest first

  1. Guest Kelly Yoch

    Season 1, Episode 5

    Show notes

    Kathleen and Adam sit down with Kelly Yoch, one of the most knowledgeable voices in horology, to talk about her path from Hamilton Jewelers in Princeton, NJ to the Patek Philippe Salon at Tiffany and now Altier Jewelers in Boca Raton, FL. Kelly shares how she got into watch and jewelry retail after realizing she could build a career around what she genuinely loves, and lays out her philosophy on what makes luxury retail actually work: training, human connection, training, and a culture that treats every visitor with respect.

    Learn more at http://redbargroup.com.

    Patek Philippe references discussed in this episode:

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    5711

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    5167

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    5168

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    5968

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    Aquanaut Chronograph

    52 min
  2. Episode 4: Guest collector Charlie Rauh

    Season 1, Episode 4

    Show notes

    Musician and writer Charlie Rauh joins Kathleen to talk about his journey in watches, building his collection starting from a random purchase to choosing new pieces based on heritage, craftsmanship, and personal milestones. From his first Longines Legend Diver to the Grand Seiko he bought while on tour in Japan and Korea, Charlie discusses his preference for manual-wind, time-only watches and closed case backs, and why the meaning a watch carries for its owner can matter more than its specs. Kathleen and Charlie also explore watch size and gender labels, the heirloom value of an engraved JLC Reverso, and the people and experiences that make collecting rewarding.

    Learn more at http://redbargroup.com.

    46 min