Pod of Orcas

This episode originally aired back in 2022 but it recently got taken down because of a short clip of the Tayl*r Sw*ft song "Lavender Haze." This is that original episode, sans Taylor.

On this episode we cover social media at the intersection of science, nature, conservation, and nonprofit work. More specifically it’s about Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, and a state agency that has leveraged social media beautifully as a way to get their word out. Our guest is Rachel Terlep was Social Media Manager for the Washington State Department of Natural Resources when we spoke, but now runs social media for Washington State Department of Transportation.

Note: We had this conversation about four hours before Twitter, now called X, entered a state of crazy flux on November 17, 2022.

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Our big summer auction event will take place Saturday July 18th, from 4-7 pm, on Orcas Island. The event is near but we have a handful of tickets left if you'd like to join. It will be held at Slanted Apple Farm, not far from the ferry landing.

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Today’s guest is SeaDoc Society’s new Veterinary Translational Scientist, Michelle Barbieri Lino.

In a moment where researching funding is tenuous on both the state and federal level, SeaDoc Society is expanding its impact. Michelle (who goes by Shell) is joining Joe Gaydos, Deborah Giles and Cat Lo on SeaDoc’s esteemed team of scientists.

This casual conversation is a good chance to learn about her life and career, whether you’re a SeaDoc supporter of a budding scientist yourself. Learn more or support our work at seadocsociety.org.

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Early in 2025, the amazing killer whale research organization Wild Orca merged with SeaDoc Society, adding Giles to our growing team of scientists, alongside Joe Gaydos and Cat Lo.

In today's episode we talk with Giles about her time on the water this field season, having her life changed by a Superpod on her 18th birthday, Eba the poop-sniffing dog, and the future of Southern Resident Killer Whale science and conservation.

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Bob Friel is the producer of SeaDoc Society's EMMY-nominated web series, Salish Sea Wild, hosted by Joe Gaydos. He's also an award-winning writer, photographer, documentary filmmaker, and author of the true-crime bestseller The Barefoot Bandit.

In this episode we talk about how to get folks to care about vital science in a chaotic and unreliable media environment—more specifically how he and Joe make their own brand of magic with Salish Sea Wild.

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Rockfish are very vulnerable to overfishing and don't have babies every year. Very rarely a "jackpot recruitment" happens and tons of rockfish babies are born (they give birth to live young, meaning no eggs!). The last time it happened in the San Juan Islands was decades ago.

Our guest today are Adam Obaza and Olivia Carmack of Paua Marine Research Group. We work with Paua to collect data on young rockfish to aid in the recovery plan for the species. Check it out!

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Human feet have been washing up on beaches in the Pacific Northwest's Salish Sea since at least 2007. But why? Turns out there are scientific explanations for "why feet?" and "why here?"

The answer sheds light on why the ecosystem's name—The Salish Sea—is important, and why place names matter in general.

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GUESTS:

Erika Engelhaupt, author of Gory Details

- https://erikaengelhaupt.com/gory-details-book/

- https://x.com/GoryErika

David Trimbach, Conservation Social Scientist at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

- https://davidtrimbach.com/current/

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This is the story of a mysterious fish that washed up on Orcas Island on July 11, 2023. That fish was a six-foot long Pacific bluefin tuna—a species that had never in history been documented in the inland waters of the Salish Sea. Bluefin are a delicacy that can sell for millions of dollars. Why was it here?

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Our guest today is Kevin Campion, founder of Deep Green Wilderness and a board member for the SeaDoc Society.

In this episode we talk about the North Pacific Right Whale. Kevin and his crew have made an excellent new film called Right Over the Edge—all about their search for this elusive and severely endangered species, which used to number in the 10s of thousands and now is down to about 30.

The SeaDoc Society will be hosting a free screening of the movie on Orcas Island on the evening of Thursday May 18th at the SeaView Theatre. That event marks the in-person return of our popular Ocean Night series. Put it on your calendar and join us!

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RIGHT WHALE RESOURCES

• Right Over the Edge film - https://www.rightwhalefilm.com/
• Right Whale Website - https://www.northpacificrightwhale.org/
• Deep Green Wilderness - https://www.deepgreenwilderness.com/

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SCREENINGS

May 18 at 7pm at the SeaView Theatre on Orcas Island Ocean Night: https://www.facebook.com/events/558844049702732/

May 20 at 7:30pm at the San Juan Island Yacht Club, San Juan Island

This episode is about kelp and seaweed in the Salish Sea, and more specifically whether it is safe for human consumption. Our guest is Jennifer Hahn, who has a unique and adventurous childhood story, and in adulthood kayaked solo through Alaska’s Inside Passage. She’s the author of Pacific Feast: A Cook’s Guide to West Coast Foraging and Cuisine, in which kelp is featured heavily.

When Jenny started teaching classes about kelp throughout the region, she’d often get asked if it was safe to eat. Eventually that brought her into contact with SeaDoc Society Science Director Joe Gaydos. That sets in motion the scientific study you’ll hear about in this episode! In addition to Jenny’s wildlife adventures, we’ll unpack the findings of the study and her close collaboration with Tribes and First Nations from start to finish on the project.

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Welcome to Part 2 of our episode about Hope with Elin Kelsey. In this episode we talk about Southern Resident Killer Whales, why we shouldn't put our climate responsibility on young children, environmental fatalism, and individuals vs. corporations as it relates to a healthy planet and Salish Sea.

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Elin Kelsey is the author of Hope Matters: Why Changing the Way We Think is Critical to Solving the Environmental Crisis. The whole SeaDoc staff has read the book, and to say it has inspired us would be a huge understatement. Kelsey, PhD, is a leading spokesperson, scholar and educator in the area of evidence-based hope.

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We're back for Season 2, and we’re kicking things off with a conversation about Hope! The doom-and-gloom of the endless news cycle can convince you that our planet is as good as dead. This conversation with Elin Kelsey, author of Hope Matters: Why Changing the Way We Think is Critical to Solving the Environmental Crisis, will make you rethink that. The whole SeaDoc staff has read the book, and to say it has inspired us would be a huge understatement. Kelsey, PhD, is a leading spokesperson, scholar and educator in the area of evidence-based hope.

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Welcome to Pod of Orcas! Last season, we dove deep with an endangered population of killer whales, and we met some brilliant scientists and storytellers along the way. This season, we’re zooming out. We’re gonna look at the place they call home, which is also the place we call home. And by that I do mean the Salish Sea and its 8 million people and two large cities with bustling ports and shipping routes, but I also mean the Pacific Ocean, the planet, all of it.

We’ll look at everything from dire stories of near extinction to inspirational stories of recovery to stories that are just cool or downright weird.

How do we maintain hope amid so much grim climate news? Could Chinook salmon go extinct in our lifetime? What makes poop so crucial to marine mammal research? And why do human feet keep washing up on Salish Sea shores?

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In our finale episode, we look at Southern Resident Killer Whales through the eyes of the Seattle Times environment reporter, Lynda Mapes. Lynda has been locked into their story since Tahlequah carried her dead calf for 17 days and more than a thousand miles in the summer of 2018. That story captured the world and Mapes’ articles for the Times are some of the most popular in the paper’s online history. Tahlequah’s story is also how she introduces her beautiful new book, Orca: Shared Waters, Shared Home, which comes out June 1, but you can preorder now: https://www.mountaineers.org/books/books/orca-shared-waters-shared-home

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In Ep. 6, we look at how human-made contaminants in the ocean are compromising killer whales and compounding the other problems they face. Fat soluble toxins move up the foot chain and accumulate in killer whales, who metabolize it in their blubber. Mothers also pass those contaminants down to their babies when nursing. Our guest is the excellent Peter Ross, who takes this complex subject and artfully breaks it down. Next week is the finale and it's a good one. See you then!

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• Music: Podington Bear
• Whale sound: The Whale Museum

In Ep. 5, we look at a conservation success story that could help map out the future for Southern Resident Killer Whales. The similarities between mountain gorillas and Southern Residents are plenty: Both can be individually identified and monitored by researchers. Both are massive tourist attractions--which on one hand comes with threats, but also brings enthusiasm, support, and the potential for funding to ensure protection. Both also regularly cross the imaginary borders humans have drawn to carve up our countries, meaning international collaboration is crucial. Our guest is Dr. Kirsten Gilardi, Director of Gorilla Doctors and Executive Director of the Karen C. Drayer Wildlife Health Center at UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine.

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In Ep. 4, we enter the acoustic world of killer whales, and what that means for how they talk with their families, hunt for salmon, navigate the sounds of boats, and so much more. Our guest is Rob Williams, who is Chief Scientist and Co-Founder of Oceans Initiative with Erin Asche.
Acoustic communication is fundamental to the survival of killer whales and their uniqe culture, so don’t miss this one. Rate, review and share the podcast to spread the word. You can email our host at justin@seadocsociety.org.
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In Ep. 3, we look at how humans have viewed and treated killer whales throughout history, especially in the Salish Sea. It starts with slaughter by fishermen, followed by captivity for entertainment, all the way up to our present moment, in which wild Southern Resident Killer Whales are endangered, but beloved. We look at portrayal in media (Free Willy, Blackfish and more) and get into how captivity shifted scientific study and shaped perception of orcas in ways that would ultimately lead to a ban on their capture in the Salish Sea.

Our guest is Jason Colby, author of the book Orca: How We Came to Know and Love the Ocean’s Greatest Predator. This is a moving and at times sad conversation that explores hard truths. But it ultimately offers hope. Rate, review and share the podcast to help spread the word.

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In Ep. 2, we talk about salmon—the sole food source for Southern Resident Killer Whales. Our guest is Cecilia Gobin—a Tulalip tribal member who is on staff at the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. She's incredibly thoughtful and and exactly the kind of voice you want speaking on this topic.

How did we create such a bleak situation for this amazing species of fish? Could we lose salmon in our lifetime? What happens if the status-quo continues? Listen to find out. Subscribe to follow along.

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