Podcast
Policing Matters
Talking the beat to cover what matters to you as an LEO. Join deputy chief Jim Dudley (ret.) every weekly as he sits down with law enforcement leaders and criminal justice experts to discuss strategy, challenges and trends in policing.
- Government chart
- #96
- Episodes
- 578
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 36 min
- On air since
- 2015
- Latest episode
- 6 days ago
Episodes
578 episodes, newest first
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36 min
Dallas Police Chief Daniel Comeaux on leading by empowerment
Episode 580
Show notes
Every leader remembers the day they went from being one of the team to being in charge of it. On this episode of Policing Matters, host Jim Dudley talks with Dallas Police Chief Daniel C. Comeaux about leadership at every rank. A former Houston officer and DEA supervisor, Comeaux explains how mentors and early mistakes shaped his approach: motivate, inspire and empower.
Comeaux explains how he gives people real decision-making power within clear guardrails, how he wins over cynical troops and why transparency matters when a critical incident is still unfolding. He also draws on his years as a college baseball player, a career that has him slated to be inducted into the Semi-Pro Baseball Hall of Fame this fall. Those lessons from sports, and from leading in law enforcement, business and life, are the heart of his book, “The Active Sport of Leadership: Discipline, Culture, and the Responsibility to Lead,” available at https://www.dccbooks.com/.
About our sponsor
American Military University supports law enforcement professionals with flexible online programs designed around the demands of the job. Whether you’re looking to grow your own career or support the development of your officers, the Everyday Heroes Grant provides eligible first responders and their families with a 20% tuition grant. Students may also be eligible to transfer up to 45 credits for academy training, prior education, and professional experience, helping them start ahead and finish sooner. Learn more at PublicSafetyAtAMU.com.
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34 min
Police recruitment has a messaging problem, not a purpose problem
Episode 579
Show notes
Police agencies of every size are still struggling to fill their ranks, even with hiring bonuses, new recruiting campaigns, and a stronger social media presence. The question underneath all of it is whether agencies are trying to recruit a new generation into an old model of leadership. What do millennials and Gen Z actually want from a career in law enforcement, and what makes a young officer decide an agency is a place to build a career rather than a stop on the way to somewhere else?
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley talks with Dr. Nicole Cain, assistant professor in the School of Security and Global Studies at American Military University and a veteran with more than 25 years in law enforcement. Cain’s research focuses on recruitment and retention, and she argues that policing doesn't have a purpose problem, it has a messaging problem. She and Dudley discuss why retention has to come before recruitment, how a cultural assessment can show leaders where they stand, and which leadership behaviors make young officers want to stay. They also cover practical ideas, from storytelling and community partnerships to high school academies and paid internships, that can bring in people who are a good fit for the job.
About our sponsor
American Military University supports law enforcement professionals with flexible online programs designed around the demands of the job. Whether you’re looking to grow your own career or support the development of your officers, the Everyday Heroes Grant provides eligible first responders and their families with a 20% tuition grant. Students may also be eligible to transfer up to 45 credits for academy training, prior education, and professional experience, helping them start ahead and finish sooner. Learn more at PublicSafetyAtAMU.com.
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20 min
Vinnie Politan on what makes a case a national obsession
Episode 578
Show notes
After decades covering the country's most closely watched trials, from Scott Peterson and Casey Anthony to Alex Murdaugh and Johnny Depp, Vinnie Politan has a front-row view of how the public, the press and juries see law enforcement.
He joins host Jim Dudley on Policing Matters to talk about his new YouTube-first video podcast, “Vinnie Politan Investigates,” and what he has learned about why some cases capture the public's attention while most never do. Along the way, he explains how skepticism toward institutions has changed what happens in the jury box.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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28 min
Do fixed ALPR networks reduce vehicle theft? What new research found
Episode 577
Show notes
As law enforcement agencies weigh the benefits and concerns associated with automated license plate readers, they need more than individual success stories to guide their decisions. Agencies need evidence about what fixed camera networks can — and cannot — reasonably be expected to accomplish, as well as clear policies for privacy, data retention, auditing and responsible use.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with Scott Mourtgos, Ph.D., a former police executive and assistant professor of criminology and criminal justice at the University of South Carolina. Mourtgos discusses his working paper, “Automated License Plate Readers, Vehicle Theft and Clearance,” co-authored with Ian Adams, Ph.D. Drawing on agency data from 2017 through 2023, the researchers examined whether fixed ALPR networks were associated with changes in vehicle theft, arrest clearances and recovery time.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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51 min
What a veteran hostage negotiator teaches about trust, listening and hard conversations
Episode 576
Show notes
Every officer, supervisor and commander eventually faces the same challenge crisis negotiators train for every day: staying composed, building trust and making a good decision when the information is incomplete, emotions are high and someone is demanding an answer right now. The techniques hostage negotiators use on the worst calls of someone's life turn out to work just as well on patrol, in the squad room and in the chief's office.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with Don Fieselman, a 25-plus-year law enforcement veteran and former leader and instructor with the Las Vegas Metro Police Department Crisis Negotiation Team, now a negotiation coach with the Black Swan Group. Fieselman explains how the same skills used to talk someone down from a barricaded standoff can defuse conflict between a sergeant and their officers, deliver bad news without losing trust, and get quiet team members to speak up before a problem becomes a crisis.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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27 min
When logistics fails: The hidden operational risks behind police equipment and fleets
Episode 575
Show notes
Police agencies depend on far more than staffing and training to stay ready for the next call. Vehicles, radios, protective gear, medical supplies, firearms and other everyday equipment all need to be available, serviceable and assigned to the right people. When agencies lose track of those basics, the result can be wasted time, avoidable costs and, in the worst cases, safety risks for officers and the public.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with retired Loveland, Ohio, Police Chief Dennis Sean Rahe about the often-overlooked work of public safety logistics. Rahe shares practical ways agencies can improve accountability for fleet, equipment and other critical assets; identify maintenance and replacement needs before they become emergencies; and build a system that works.
About our sponsor
This episode is brought to you by Collective Data, the asset management platform built for quartermasters and supply managers. For nearly 30 years, agencies have used Collective Data to track gear, weapons, evidence and certifications in one central hub. Expired certifications have a way of surfacing at the worst possible moment. Collective Data flags qualifications and training before they lapse, and keeps gear issuance, uniform allotments, weapons, and evidence running on that same platform. A quick barcode or RFID scan at issue means you always know who has what, backed by real-time counts. Visit collectivedata.com and see what your supply operation looks like when every item is accounted for.
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30 min
After the towers fell: An NYPD lieutenant’s Ground Zero account
Episode 573
Show notes
Twenty-five years after 9/11, the attacks continue to shape how public safety agencies prepare for catastrophic incidents. In this episode of Policing Matters, host Jim Dudley speaks with retired NYPD Lt. Nicholas Bavaro about the recovery operations that followed the collapse of the World Trade Center.
Bavaro served in patrol, the Street Crime Unit and the NYPD Emergency Service Unit during his 20-year career. On Sept. 11, 2001, he responded to Lower Manhattan and spent the months that followed leading recovery operations at Ground Zero. Bavaro is the author of “The Big One: Reflections of an NYPD Lieutenant,” a memoir as told to Joe Badalamente about his career, the aftermath of 9/11 and the experiences that stayed with him long after retirement.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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1 hr 14 min
What ‘never forget’ means 25 years later
Episode 572
Show notes
Twenty-five years after Sept. 11, 2001, FDNY Chief of Department John Esposito joins podcast hosts Jim Dudley, Rob Lawrence and Aaron Zamzow of Police1’s Policing Matters, EMS1's EMS One-Stop and FireRescue1’s Better Every Shift for a deeply personal conversation about 9/11, its enduring impact and the lessons that continue to shape fire, EMS and law enforcement. Esposito was a newly promoted FDNY lieutenant on Sept. 11, 2001. He recalls returning to the city after the towers fell, the collapse of command and communications, the desperate effort to account for missing members, and the realization that FDNY had suffered unimaginable losses.
The discussion moves beyond remembrance to examine what emergency services learned: stronger accountability, controlling self-deployment, incident management teams, interoperable communications, interagency cooperation, intelligence sharing and peer support. Esposito also reflects on the continuing toll of World Trade Center-related illness and explains why “never forget” must mean more than remembering 343 names. For him, it means remembering the decisions responders made, the conditions they faced and the thousands of lives their actions helped save. His challenge to today’s generation is simple: know your job, keep learning, take care of your people and ask whether you are prepared to “measure up” to those who came before.
Key quotes from FDNY Chief of Department John Esposito
“Never forget is not just their names and who they were, how they lived their lives, and most importantly, the decisions that they made that day and the actions that they took.”
“They're like, ‘No, we think we lost everybody.’ And that was when it started to sink in that no, this is gonna be as bad as it could be.”
“If we never showed up and we had no losses that day, the loss of civilians is in the tens of thousands.”
“This is your legacy. This is our legacy, this is what we do, and these are the people that did this before us.”
“I believe that some of them knew that they were not going to make it home that night. And they still did their job.”
“September twelfth came, the doors of the firehouse went up, people got on fire trucks, and they went out and did their job.”
“It was like an all-star team that we lost. Some of the best people to ever do this job we lost that day.”
“I see my job here and our job in this building and headquarters is to take care of the people that take care of the city.”
“We have no idea. We're in a firehouse or an ambulance one second and in five minutes we could be in the worst situation we've ever been in.”
“It's our job to make sure that the people in the field are prepared and when they need something, it's our job to get it for them.”
Episode timeline
00:25 – Introduction: EMS1, FireRescue1 and Police1 come together to reflect on 25 years since September 11
02:30 – Introduction: FDNY Chief of Department John Esposito
03:30 – Chief Esposito recalls Sept. 11, 2001 as a newly promoted lieutenant with a day off and plans to study for the captain’s exam
04:30 – Chief Esposito details arriving in lower Manhattan and finding command structures and communications devastated
05:00 – The desperate process of identifying who was alive, missing or lost
07:00 – Chief Esposito describes his initial response and why he never imagined the towers could collapse
09:00 – “We think we lost everybody.” When the magnitude of FDNY's losses began to become clear
09:30 – Accountability and self-deployment emerge as major lessons from 9/11
10:00 – How FDNY now wants off-duty members to report to firehouses and EMS stations rather than directly to an incident
10:30 – Modern digital accountability, riding lists and identifiable radio transmissions compared with 2001's paper systems
12:00 – The human factor: firefighters desperate to get aboard apparatus headed toward the World Trade Center
12:30 – Leadership decisions that removed extra firefighters from overloaded apparatus ultimately saved lives
14:00 – The continuing human toll: FDNY's memorial walls and deaths from World Trade Center-related illness
16:30 – How FDNY will commemorate the 25th anniversary
17:30 – Why September 11 remembrance is intensely personal for individual firefighters and families
21:00 – Chief Esposito discusses the emotional effect September 11 continues to have on him
22:00 – “Never forget” means remembering actions and decisions, not merely names
24:00 – The actions of responders helped prevent civilian deaths potentially reaching into the tens of thousands
25:00 – Managing the overwhelming desire of responders to help during catastrophic incidents
27:30 – How outside incident management teams helped FDNY solve problems after 9/11
28:30 – FDNY repaying the assistance it received through deployments around the United States
30:00 – How today's incident command and dispatch systems control resources and prevent uncontrolled response
31:40 – Sponsor message
32:30 – Improved interagency collaboration between FDNY, NYPD and other agencies
36:00 – Peer support, firehouse culture and challenging the stereotype that firefighters do not talk about emotional distress
38:30 – How FDNY's peer-support system works after difficult incidents
42:30 – September 11 demonstrated why the fire service needs to be part of the intelligence community
44:00 – FDNY members are trained to recognize suspicious activity during routine fire and EMS responses
46:00 – How information spotted by firefighters may become the missing piece in a larger investigation
48:30 – What Chief Esposito wants responders who were not alive on 9/11 to understand
49:00 – “This is our legacy.” Measuring today's performance against those who came before
52:00 – Know your job and do your job — while recognizing that not every emergency fits an SOP
52:30 – A recent Bronx explosion illustrates the need to adapt principles to situations for which no exact procedure exists
53:30 – Applying the overarching principles of life safety and rescue when the situation is unprecedented
54:30 – What does “never forget” mean 25 years later?
56:00 – September 12: despite catastrophic losses, FDNY opened its firehouses and continued protecting New York City
56:30 – Chief Esposito describes those killed as “an all-star team” and some of the best ever to do the job
58:00 – Aaron Zamzow reflects on the responsibility to “measure up”
59:30 – The nationwide impact of 9/11 and seeing FDNY remembered on apparatus thousands of miles from New York
1:01:30 – Jim Dudley reflects on intelligence, prevention and acting on warning signs
1:03:30 – Chief Esposito discusses the difficulty of measuring successful prevention
1:05:00 – Warning signs, intelligence and lessons shared with other historic disasters
1:06:00 – Rob Lawrence reflects on September 12 and the emergency services reality that tomorrow brings another shift
1:07:00 – “At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember.”
1:08:00 – Esposito discusses how 9/11 affected his career and leadership journey
1:09:00 – Leadership, doing the right thing and measuring decisions against the memory of colleagues lost
1:10:00 – “Take care of the people that take care of the city.”
1:11:30 – Emergency responders never know when the next call will become the worst situation they have ever faced
1:12:00 – The responsibility to ensure frontline personnel are prepared and supported
1:12:30 – Closing message: “Keep learning and keep moving forward.”
About our sponsor
This crossover episode of the Policing Matters, Better Every Shift and EMS One-Stop podcasts is sponsored by FirstNet — the only wireless network built with and for first responders.
Twenty-five years ago, first responders faced an emergency unlike any other. They stepped forward to protect and care for others, demonstrating extraordinary courage and resolve. This September 11th, we remember and honor those who answered the call. The example they set endures through the values that continue to inspire the profession today.
Learn more about FirstNet, Built with AT&T, at http://www.firstnet.com.
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34 min
Why financial crime investigations need to move faster
Episode 571
Show notes
Financial crime is no longer a slow, paper-based investigation that can be pieced together through records requests and manual review. Fraud networks can use synthetic identities, social media recruitment, cryptocurrency, real-time payments and AI-generated impersonations to move stolen money through multiple accounts in hours or even minutes. For law enforcement, the challenge is not only following the money, but doing so quickly enough to act before it disappears.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with Daniel Kurz, a retired U.S. Secret Service senior executive and financial crime consultant for Cognyte. Kurz describes how modern criminal enterprises combine cyber fraud, money laundering and other offenses in shared networks — and why investigators need connected data, faster analysis and clear processes to keep pace with technology-driven financial crime.
About our sponsor
More data has not made investigations faster. Cognyte changes that. Its AI-powered decision intelligence correlates massive volumes of multi-source data across the systems and silos your teams already work in, so analysts spend their time on decisions instead of on assembly. The result is clearer leads, faster assessments, and intelligence you can stand behind. Book a demo and see it on your own data at Cognyte.com.
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36 min
If AI gives police time back, what should agencies do with it?
Episode 570
Show notes
Police agencies will never have unlimited personnel or time. As workloads expand, administrative demands grow and recruiting remains difficult, leaders must make deliberate choices about where officers, investigators and supervisors spend their working hours. Artificial intelligence may ease some of that pressure, but automating a task is only valuable if an agency uses the resulting capacity to improve policing.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with retired Police Chief Jim Bueermann, founder and president of the Future Policing Institute, about where AI can make police work more effective — and where human judgment must remain firmly in control. They discuss AI-assisted report writing, continuously operating investigative agents, the need for agencywide AI policies and audits, and the central leadership question behind adoption: If technology gives personnel time back, what should the agency do with it?
Visit the Future Policing Institute’s Center on Policing and AI.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by Veritone, a leader in enterprise artificial intelligence (AI) software and solutions. Since 2014, Veritone has focused on building intuitive technology that solves problems for its customers in the public sector. Veritone Public Sector enables teams in law enforcement, government and public safety to manage and analyze evidence faster, accelerate redaction, easily generate stop-data reports, automate transcription and translation, and more. For more information, visithttp://veritone.com/public-sectorhttps://www.veritone.com/.
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35 min
From information overload to actionable intelligence in policing
Episode 569
Show notes
Law enforcement agencies have access to more information than ever before. Real-time crime centers, license plate readers, drones, cameras, CAD systems and digital evidence platforms can give officers and investigators unprecedented visibility into what is happening in their communities. But collecting more data does not automatically produce better decisions. The challenge is turning that constant stream of information into timely, actionable intelligence that helps officers prevent crime, solve cases and make better decisions in the field.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with Lt. Eugene Kim, a 27-year law enforcement veteran and Innovations Director for the National Real-Time Crime Center Association, about what separates information from intelligence and how agencies can close that gap. Kim discusses building workflows before buying technology, measuring whether new tools actually improve operations, strengthening information sharing between agencies, preparing crime analysts for increasingly real-time roles and maintaining human judgment as AI becomes more deeply embedded in public safety technology.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Police1.com podcast is sponsored by Leonardo, pioneers in advanced license plate recognition and vehicle identification technologies. Leonardo provides a proven, scalable ecosystem of license plate readers and consumer electronic signal intelligence technologies designed to identify vehicles for law enforcement and public safety agencies worldwide. Combined with a renowned data analytics suite, Leonardo fixed, mobile and covert solutions assist real-time policing and investigations with actionable data and insights to improve public safety in communities of all sizes and ideally suited to enhance productivity in real-time crime centers and future U.S. Department of Justice Model Cities. Learn more at LeonardoCompany-us.com/#.
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38 min
The heart of modern police leadership
Episode 568
Show notes
Today's police leaders are expected to do more than reduce crime. They're responsible for building organizational culture, developing future leaders and ensuring their people are equipped to thrive in one of the profession's most demanding careers.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley sits down with Santa Clara County Sheriff Robert Jonsen to discuss the leadership philosophy that has guided his career. Jonsen explains why officer wellness should be a leadership priority, how he's embedded resilience into academy training and organizational culture, and why succession planning begins on day one. He also shares the inspiration behind his upcoming book, “Got Your Six,” his law enforcement-themed music, and an innovative partnership with NuCalm that uses music and neuroscience to help officers better manage stress and build resilience.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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48 min
What constant fight-or-flight does to police officers
Episode 567
Show notes
Every call for service demands that officers be ready to make split-second decisions under pressure. But while law enforcement invests heavily in preparing officers for high-stress situations, far less attention is given to what happens after the call is over. In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley explores the hidden physiological effects of chronic stress and why recovery may be just as critical to officer performance, health and longevity as tactical training.
Jim is joined by Ryan Layne, national director of NuCalm's Public Safety Division and founder of Nervous System Regulation Training (NSRT). Drawing on neuroscience and his work with more than 1,500 law enforcement agencies, Layne explains how repeated activation of the body's fight-or-flight response can become an officer's baseline, affecting decision-making, sleep, relationships and long-term health. He also discusses practical strategies for training recovery, arguing that regulating the nervous system should become a standard part of officer wellness and performance — not an optional benefit.
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37 min
Don’t lose your soul: Managing the ‘undercover effect’ on officers’ brains
Episode 566
Show notes
Police officers spend their careers making split-second decisions under pressure, but the cumulative effects of that stress can quietly reshape how they think, lead and see themselves. In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with neuroscientist, educator and high-performance expert Dr. Pamela Seraphine about the "undercover effect" — a neuroscience-based framework that explains how chronic exposure to high-stakes environments can gradually alter an officer's identity without them realizing it.
Drawing on her work with professionals in trauma-exposed careers, Seraphine explores how small compromises can accumulate over time, influencing decision-making, leadership, relationships and overall well-being. She explains why self-awareness is essential to preventing "identity drift," how officers can recognize when their thinking has become distorted, and why caring for the "whole self" — brain, body, mind and soul — is critical for long-term resilience. The conversation also examines leadership, team culture, recovery and the importance of approaching policing with the mindset of a high-performance athlete.
About our guest
Dr. Pamela Serafine is a neuroscientist, educator and keynote speaker specializing in high performance, neuroscience and trauma recovery for professionals working in high-stakes environments. She helps leaders and mission-critical organizations apply brain science to improve decision-making, resilience and performance under pressure while navigating increasing complexity and rapid technological change.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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40 min
The fitness formula that keeps officers healthy for the long haul
Episode 565
Show notes
The demands of policing can make fitness feel like an impossible task. Shift work, overtime, court appearances, long hours in a patrol car and family responsibilities often leave officers struggling to prioritize their health. In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with Brandon Holder, strength and conditioning coordinator for the Fairfax County Police Department’s WellFit program, about realistic approaches to fitness, injury prevention, nutrition and wellness that help officers stay healthy, resilient and ready for duty throughout their careers.
Holder oversees physical readiness initiatives for one of the nation's largest police departments and works directly with officers facing the unique physical challenges of the profession. He discusses why consistency matters more than perfection, how short workouts can deliver meaningful results, common mistakes officers make after the academy and what agencies can do to build a culture that supports long-term wellness and career longevity.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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36 min
Behavioral health advisors and the future of crisis negotiations
Episode 564
Show notes
Mental health crises are among the most challenging incidents law enforcement agencies face. Whether it's a barricaded subject, a hostage situation or a person in severe emotional distress, negotiators and commanders often have to make critical decisions with limited information and high stakes. To help agencies navigate those situations, the National Tactical Officers Association recently released guidance on integrating behavioral health advisors into crisis negotiation teams.
In this week's episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley sits down with NTOA Executive Director Thor Eells to discuss the new policy and the role behavioral health advisors can play during critical incidents. Eells explains how these specialists can help negotiators better understand behavior, assess risk and shape communication strategies while supporting commanders with real-time insights that may improve decision-making and help preserve life.
Click here for more information on the NTOA.
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American Military University supports law enforcement professionals with flexible online programs designed around the demands of the job. Whether you’re looking to grow your own career or support the development of your officers, the Everyday Heroes Grant provides eligible first responders and their families with a 20% tuition grant. Students may also be eligible to transfer up to 45 credits for academy training, prior education, and professional experience, helping them start ahead and finish sooner. Learn more at PublicSafetyAtAMU.com.
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32 min
What early adopters of Drone as First Responder programs learned — and what comes next
Episode 563
Show notes
A decade ago, public safety agencies interested in drones were largely figuring things out on their own. The technology was limited, policies were still being developed and few departments had experience to draw from. Today, thousands of public safety agencies operate drone programs and Drone as First Responder deployments are growing at an unprecedented pace. As agencies move beyond tactical drone operations toward proactive, 911-driven response models, early adopters have identified critical lessons on community trust, officer safety, staffing efficiency and program implementation.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, guest host Rob Lawrence sits down with Charles Werner, founder of DRONERESPONDERS and one of the leading voices in public safety drone operations, to discuss how DFR programs are transforming policing and emergency response. Drawing on decades of public safety experience, Werner shares what agencies need to know about building community trust, improving officer safety and preparing for the next generation of public safety aviation.
About our sponsor
Flock works with more than 5,000 law enforcement agencies nationwide, delivering real-time intelligence through a holistic ecosystem of technology designed to keep officers safe, reduce crime, and build stronger communities. And if you’re looking for real stories from the front lines — how your peers are using these tools to shape the future of safety in their cities — tune in to Flock’s “Real Time Policing” podcast. Watch episodes on YouTube or tune in wherever you get your podcasts. Click here to view.
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49 min
When the child becomes the abuser
Episode 562
Show notes
Many officers have encountered child-to-parent violence. Few have received formal training on how to recognize it.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with retired Oak Park Sergeant Rasul Freelain about the years of escalating abuse that preceded the infamous Bali suitcase murder. Drawing on his experience investigating the case and the research behind his forthcoming book, “When Lambs Become Wolves: The Chilling Case of Sheila von Wiese-Mack,” Freelain explains why child-to-parent violence often goes unnoticed, how systems can miss critical warning signs and what law enforcement can do when a parent becomes the victim.
Freelain served as a detective, patrol officer and supervisor connected to the Mack family case. He shares the warning signs he observed, the challenges officers faced when trying to intervene and how the case inspired his ongoing work training law enforcement agencies to recognize child-to-parent violence and abuse.
About our sponsor
American Military University supports law enforcement professionals with flexible online programs designed around the demands of the job. Whether you’re looking to grow your own career or support the development of your officers, the Everyday Heroes Grant provides eligible first responders and their families with a 20% tuition grant. Students may also be eligible to transfer up to 45 credits for academy training, prior education, and professional experience, helping them start ahead and finish sooner. Learn more at PublicSafetyAtAMU.com.
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26 min
How agencies can show the reality of policing
Episode 561
Show notes
Police agencies are under pressure to be transparent, but too often their public storytelling swings between stiff press releases and staged social media moments. Zach Hamilton believes there is a better way.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley speaks with Hamilton, founder of Red Watch Productions and a Michigan public information officer, about "The Shift," a documentary series that follows officers through the realities of patrol.
A former Hollywood visual effects artist who worked on productions including "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and "Cry Macho," Hamilton shares how agencies can use authentic video storytelling to build trust, show the human side of policing and give communities a clearer view of what officers actually do between the headlines.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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41 min
What cops forget, families remember
Episode 560
Show notes
Police memoirs often focus on the cases: the shootings, the homicides, the organized crime investigations, the moments that test an officer’s instincts and nerve. Terrence Dwyer’s “The Badge Between Us: Duty, Marriage and Family” includes all of that, but the heart of the story is what those moments did to the life waiting for him at home.
In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley talks with Dwyer, a retired New York State Police investigator, attorney, professor, Police1 columnist and author, about the career memories he had packed away in boxes and the family memories his wife never forgot. Dwyer discusses organized crime work, the murder of a fellow investigator, a gang case, a quintuple homicide and the toll those experiences took on his marriage, his mental health and his view of life after policing.
About our sponsor
This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.
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