Podcast
Porch Swing Podcast
Welcome to Porch Swing Podcast where once a month, Justin Benson and George Laughton sit down for unfiltered conversations with leaders shaping the real estate industry.
Part strategy session, part front porch talk, built for real estate pros and entrepreneurs who'd rather be the wise one in the room than just another door opener.
- Episodes
- 3
- Releases
- Monthly
- Typical length
- 1 hr
- On air since
- 2026
- Latest episode
- 3 weeks ago
Episodes
3 episodes, newest first
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1 hr
The President of NextHome on Layoffs, Lawsuits, and Leading Through Chaos
Show notes
James Dwiggins, President of NextHome, joins Justin Benson and George Laughton to discuss why he sold NextHome to eXp, his fear the MLS won't survive five years, why he calls private listings an abomination, why most proptech won't survive AI, and why agents pick the broker before the brand.
π Subscribe to Porch Swing Podcast today: https://youtube.com/@porchswingpod?sub_confirmation=1
James Dwiggins' Podcast, Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered: https://www.youtube.com/@RealEstateInsidersUnfiltered
β° Timestamps:
00:00β01:38 Intro
05:00 βAlways say the things you donβt think you can say.β
06:23 How James Dwiggins got to where he is as President of NextHome
12:15 Why the use of a real estate agent is at an all-time high
19:24 The 1st thing Dwiggins & his business partner created: virtual tours
20:33 The founderβs curse: too far ahead in a late-adopting industry
23:28 Thereβs no key to success. βThe question is what are you willing to give up to get there.β
27:15 Why most proptech companies wonβt survive (and what separates those that will)
31:20 Messy middle moments and what Dwiggins learned from them
33:55 βThe hardest part as a founder is knowing when to make a tough call.β
34:47 The $20K payroll loan that taught him "Your word is everything"
37:33 The problem with leadership: βthe leader doesnβt know when to get out of the way.β
40:12 Stretched to the brink in 2024: Why Dwiggins spoke out knowing heβd be sued
44:44 βIf the MLS goes down, the whole system fails.β
46:32 NextHomeβs acquisition by eXp and why private listings are βan abominationβ
50:03 Why Dwiggins fears the MLS wonβt survive the next five years
53:00 βAgents choose the broker first. They choose the brand second.β
56:48 People (outside family) Dwiggins wants to thank for the life he built.
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β Stay Connected With Us β
π Connect with Justin Benson: https://www.instagram.com/justinbenson/
π Connect with George Laughton: https://www.instagram.com/georgelaughton/
π Connect with James Dwiggins: https://www.instagram.com/james.dwiggins/
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π Subscribe to the BAM YouTube channel: https://tinyurl.com/aatxhaka
π© Subscribe to BAM Newsletter: https://newsletters.nowbam.com/bam-daily
π§ Check out BAM: https://nowbam.com/
BAM PARTNERS
ππ‘π’π₯π¨ is the intuitive AI assistant built for high-performing real estate teams that listens, coaches, and guides your agents in real time so they can close with confidence β https://shilo.ai/
#JamesDwiggins #realestate #proptech
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53 min
He Said No To Becoming CEO Of eXp 3 Times | Leo Pareja
Show notes
Leo Pareja, Chief Executive Officer at eXp Realty, joins Justin Benson, George Laughton and Lindsay Fricks to discuss his journey from tech entrepreneur to real estate CEO, why great leaders learn to love solving problems, and how adversity shapes confidence. They also unpack redefining success beyond building a bigger company and managing time, family and the demands of leadership.
π Subscribe to Porch Swing Podcast today: https://youtube.com/@porchswingpod?sub_confirmation=1
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β STAY CONNECTED WITH US
π Connect with Justin Benson: https://www.instagram.com/justinbenson/
π Connect with George Laughton: https://www.instagram.com/georgelaughton/
π Connect with Lindsay Fricks: https://www.instagram.com/lindsay.fricks/
π Connect with Leo Pareja: https://www.instagram.com/leopareja/
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π Subscribe to the BAM YouTube channel: https://tinyurl.com/aatxhaka
π© Subscribe to BAM Newsletter: https://newsletters.nowbam.com/bam-daily
π§ Check out BAM: https://nowbam.com/
BAM PARTNERS
ππ‘π’π₯π¨ is the intuitive AI assistant built for high-performing real estate teams that listens, coaches and guides your agents in real time so they can close with confidence β https://shilo.ai/
#LeoPareja #eXp #RealEstate
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1 hr 9 min
Tom Ferryβs Wake Up Call For Real Estate Agents
Show notes
In the debut episode of Porch Swing, Tom Ferry joins Justin Benson, George Laughton, and Lindsay Fricks for an honest talk about ambition, fear, protecting your mind like an athlete protects their body, and why constraint tends to create the biggest breakthroughs.
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β° Timestamps:
03:16 The Biochemistry Degree Nobody Saw Coming
07:36 Why Your Mind Is the Only Tool You Actually Have
12:18 The Conversation That Changed Tom Ferryβs Career
18:36 Munger's Paradox: Never Underestimate the Man Who Overestimates Himself
26:47 The "Brutal Public A** Kicking" Every Ambitious Person Needs
37:51 The Defensive Reaction That Kills Ambitious People's Growth
47:31 Jim Carrey's Commencement Line on Letting Go of Outcomes
59:58 The Inman Rant on AI Being Wrong All the Time (and Why That's Fine)
01:03:22 You Can't Just Be a Door Opener Anymoreβββ
β Stay Connected With Us β
π Connect with Justin Benson: https://www.instagram.com/justinbenson/
π Connect with George Laughton: https://www.instagram.com/georgelaughton/
π Connect with Lindsay Fricks: https://www.instagram.com/lindsay.fricks/
π Connect with Tom Ferry: https://www.instagram.com/tomferry/
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π Subscribe to the BAM YouTube channel: https://tinyurl.com/aatxhaka
π© Subscribe to BAM Newsletter: https://newsletters.nowbam.com/bam-daily
π§ Check out BAM: https://nowbam.com/
BAM PARTNERS
ππ‘π’π₯π¨ is the intuitive AI assistant built for high-performing real estate teams that listens, coaches, and guides your agents in real time so they can close with confidence β https://shilo.ai/
#TomFerry #RealEstateCoaching #RealEstatePodcast
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