Podcast

Porch Swing Podcast

Business, Entrepreneurship

Welcome to Porch Swing Podcast where once a month, Justin Benson and George Laughton sit down for unfiltered conversations with leaders shaping the real estate industry.

Part strategy session, part front porch talk, built for real estate pros and entrepreneurs who'd rather be the wise one in the room than just another door opener.

Episodes
3
Releases
Monthly
Typical length
1 hr
On air since
2026
Latest episode
3 weeks ago

Episodes

3 episodes, newest first

  1. The President of NextHome on Layoffs, Lawsuits, and Leading Through Chaos

    Show notes

    James Dwiggins, President of NextHome, joins Justin Benson and George Laughton to discuss why he sold NextHome to eXp, his fear the MLS won't survive five years, why he calls private listings an abomination, why most proptech won't survive AI, and why agents pick the broker before the brand.

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    James Dwiggins' Podcast, Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered: https://www.youtube.com/@RealEstateInsidersUnfiltered

    ⏰ Timestamps:

    00:00–01:38 Intro

    05:00 β€œAlways say the things you don’t think you can say.”

    06:23 How James Dwiggins got to where he is as President of NextHome

    12:15 Why the use of a real estate agent is at an all-time high

    19:24 The 1st thing Dwiggins & his business partner created: virtual tours

    20:33 The founder’s curse: too far ahead in a late-adopting industry

    23:28 There’s no key to success. β€œThe question is what are you willing to give up to get there.”

    27:15 Why most proptech companies won’t survive (and what separates those that will)

    31:20 Messy middle moments and what Dwiggins learned from them

    33:55 β€œThe hardest part as a founder is knowing when to make a tough call.”

    34:47 The $20K payroll loan that taught him "Your word is everything"

    37:33 The problem with leadership: β€œthe leader doesn’t know when to get out of the way.”

    40:12 Stretched to the brink in 2024: Why Dwiggins spoke out knowing he’d be sued

    44:44 β€œIf the MLS goes down, the whole system fails.”

    46:32 NextHome’s acquisition by eXp and why private listings are β€œan abomination”

    50:03 Why Dwiggins fears the MLS won’t survive the next five years

    53:00 β€œAgents choose the broker first. They choose the brand second.”

    56:48 People (outside family) Dwiggins wants to thank for the life he built.

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    βœ… Stay Connected With Us β€”

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    πŸ‘‰ Connect with George Laughton: https://www.instagram.com/georgelaughton/

    πŸ‘‰ Connect with James Dwiggins: https://www.instagram.com/james.dwiggins/

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    #JamesDwiggins #realestate #proptech

    1 hr
  2. He Said No To Becoming CEO Of eXp 3 Times | Leo Pareja

    Show notes

    Leo Pareja, Chief Executive Officer at eXp Realty, joins Justin Benson, George Laughton and Lindsay Fricks to discuss his journey from tech entrepreneur to real estate CEO, why great leaders learn to love solving problems, and how adversity shapes confidence. They also unpack redefining success beyond building a bigger company and managing time, family and the demands of leadership.

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    πŸ‘‰ Connect with George Laughton: https://www.instagram.com/georgelaughton/

    πŸ‘‰ Connect with Lindsay Fricks: https://www.instagram.com/lindsay.fricks/

    πŸ‘‰ Connect with Leo Pareja: https://www.instagram.com/leopareja/

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    #LeoPareja #eXp #RealEstate

    53 min
  3. Tom Ferry’s Wake Up Call For Real Estate Agents

    Show notes

    In the debut episode of Porch Swing, Tom Ferry joins Justin Benson, George Laughton, and Lindsay Fricks for an honest talk about ambition, fear, protecting your mind like an athlete protects their body, and why constraint tends to create the biggest breakthroughs.

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    ⏰ Timestamps:

    03:16 The Biochemistry Degree Nobody Saw Coming
    07:36 Why Your Mind Is the Only Tool You Actually Have
    12:18 The Conversation That Changed Tom Ferry’s Career
    18:36 Munger's Paradox: Never Underestimate the Man Who Overestimates Himself
    26:47 The "Brutal Public A** Kicking" Every Ambitious Person Needs
    37:51 The Defensive Reaction That Kills Ambitious People's Growth
    47:31 Jim Carrey's Commencement Line on Letting Go of Outcomes
    59:58 The Inman Rant on AI Being Wrong All the Time (and Why That's Fine)
    01:03:22 You Can't Just Be a Door Opener Anymore

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    πŸ‘‰ Connect with Justin Benson: https://www.instagram.com/justinbenson/

    πŸ‘‰ Connect with George Laughton: https://www.instagram.com/georgelaughton/

    πŸ‘‰ Connect with Lindsay Fricks: https://www.instagram.com/lindsay.fricks/

    πŸ‘‰ Connect with Tom Ferry: https://www.instagram.com/tomferry/

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    #TomFerry #RealEstateCoaching #RealEstatePodcast

    1 hr 9 min