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Leading Massachusetts into the future will take the talent, dedication, and hard work of leaders from all of our 351 cities and towns. Our mission at the Massachusetts Municipal Association is to help those leaders deal with some of the toughest issues in the state. On this podcast, hosts Adam Chapdelaine, executive director of the MMA, and John Ouellette, communications director at the MMA, speak with the innovators and experts who are leading the Commonwealth forward and working to make it stronger. New episodes drop every other Tuesday.

To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

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27
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Typical length
37 min
On air since
2025
Latest episode
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Episodes

27 episodes, newest first

  1. From Self-Advocacy to Resilience: Advice for Women in Public Service

    Episode 27

    Show notes

    Women are making steady gains in leadership positions across Massachusetts cities and towns, but getting more women into these roles is only part of the equation. How can municipalities better support women leaders, build pathways for the next generation, and make public service more sustainable?

    In this episode, Melissa Murphy Rodriguez, town manager of North Andover and a leader with Women Leading Government, and Mayor Jen Grigoraitis of Melrose, a member of the steering committee for Women Elected Municipal Officials, share their experiences.

    They discuss how peer networks and mentorship help women navigate the unique pressures of municipal leadership — from balancing professional and family responsibilities to handling public criticism and advocating for themselves at work. They also offer practical lessons on leading with empathy, building resilience, and creating workplaces where talented public servants feel supported.

    For Further Reading:

    Women Leading Government (Massachusetts Municipal Association): https://www.mma.org/members/managers/women-leading-government-committee/

    Women Elected Municipal Officials (Massachusetts Municipal Association): https://www.mma.org/members/wemo/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    31 min
  2. What Massachusetts Cities and Towns Need to Know About Energy Costs This Winter

    Episode 26

    Show notes

    What can Massachusetts cities and towns expect from the coming winter, and what could it mean for their energy budgets?

    Adam and John are joined by Brandon Fong, principal of the Commodities Group at Constellation (the MMA’s partner in its MunEnergy program), to talk about the forces shaping New England’s energy market.

    Fong explains how a Super El Niño could mean warmer-than-average temperatures this winter across New England generally, but it doesn’t eliminate the risk of extreme cold snaps. And even a few days of intense demand can put pressure on the region’s natural-gas supply and send electricity prices higher.

    The conversation explores why New England’s energy market is so closely connected to global events, and Fong discusses what municipalities can control, including energy procurement strategies, contract terms, demand management, and reducing the amount of electricity they use during the most expensive periods. He also explains how the region is working toward a more diversified and resilient grid, as wind, solar, hydro, batteries, and other technologies become increasingly important.

    For Further Reading:
    MunEnergy to discuss energy strategies in Oct. 20 webinar: https://www.mma.org/munenergy-to-discuss-energy-strategies-in-oct-20-webinar/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    30 min
  3. Understanding the Ballot Questions Massachusetts Municipal Leaders Are Watching

    Episode 25

    Show notes

    Massachusetts voters will face a record-tying nine initiative petitions on the statewide ballot this November. But three questions in particular could have serious implications for cities and towns: Question 4, which would allow same-day voter registration; Question 5, which would change the way the state’s revenue limit is calculated; and Question 7, which would create statewide zoning rules allowing single-family homes on lots as small as 5,000 square feet.

    John and Adam are joined by MMA Legislative Director Dave Koffman, MMA Legislative and Policy Counsel Ali DiMatteo, and MMA Senior Legislative Analyst Adrienne Núñez to explain the ballot initiatives and their potential consequences.

    In this episode:

    • Question 7 and housing: What the so-called “starter homes” ballot question would actually do, and why smaller lots don't necessarily mean more affordable housing.
    • Question 5 and state revenues: How Massachusetts' existing “62F” revenue limit works, what the proposed changes would do, and why municipal officials are watching the state's fiscal capacity closely.
    • Question 4 and Election Day: What same-day voter registration could mean for municipal clerks and election officials, who are already managing early voting, mail-in voting, provisional ballots, poll workers, equipment, and other Election Day responsibilities.

    For Further Reading:

    https://www.mma.org/mma-testifies-at-hearing-on-starter-home-ballot-initiative/

    https://ma.omniballot.us/sites/25/vg/app/vig/voter-guide/instructions

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    23 min
  4. Building a Culture of Wellness in the Municipal Workforce

    Episode 24

    Show notes

    Employee wellness programs can improve morale and productivity, and lower absenteeism. They also make people feel better, and more connected, so they’re becoming an increasingly important part of how municipalities recruit, retain, and support their workforces. But what does effective workplace wellness actually look like, and how can communities make programs accessible and relevant to employees with very different jobs, schedules, and needs?

    We’re joined by Chris Bailey, Director of the MIIA Health Benefits Trust, and Courtney Hernandez, Wellness Manager at MIIA, to discuss what municipalities can do to build a sustainable culture of employee wellness.

    They discuss why wellness has to go beyond one-off programs; how to drive participation by making programs fun and rewarding; and why it makes more sense to focus on small, achievable goals than ambitious lifestyle overhauls. They also discuss tailoring programs — from bringing movement programs directly to DPW garages to helping snowplow drivers make healthier choices during long shifts.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about the MIAA Health Benefits Trust: https://www.emiia.org/health-dental-and-vision-insurance

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    41 min
  5. Building the Next Generation of Local Government Leaders

    Episode 23

    Show notes

    One challenge that is shared across the Commonwealth is preparing the next generation of municipal leaders. And one part of the solution is the partnership between the MMA and Suffolk University.

    In this episode, we hear from three members of the MMA-Suffolk Fellowship class about their experiences in local government and why they’re investing in their leadership skills: Robert Craig, special projects and grants manager in Rockport; Chad Hunter, harbormaster in Plymouth; and Thomas Dalton, communications and events manager in Melrose.

    Plus, MMA Deputy Executive Director Katie McCue explains why the MMA and Suffolk partnered back in 2011, in response to concerns about a coming wave of municipal retirements across the Commonwealth. She discusses how the range of MMA-Suffolk programs are helping build a pipeline of local government professionals — and identifies three key benefits participants gain: practical skills, leadership and confidence, and a lasting network of peers.

    For Further Reading:

    More about the MMA-Suffolk programs: https://www.mma.org/about-mma/services/mma-suffolk-certificate-in-local-government-leadership-management/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    39 min
  6. A Review of a Busy Override Season, and the Story Behind the Numbers

    Episode 21

    Show notes

    This spring, 54 Massachusetts communities put Proposition 2 1⁄2 override questions before voters, making FY27 one of the most active years in history. But what do the numbers actually tell us?

    In this episode, the MMA’s Adam Chapdelaine and John Ouellette dig into the data behind this year's override results, including why the number of questions has spiked recently, what communities are facing when costs outpace revenue growth, and how the results relate to the MMA's “Perfect Storm” report. They explore the difficult choices local leaders face; the role of transparency and communication in override campaigns; what happens when voters say no; and why school and public safety measures tend to perform better with voters. The bottom line: the “Perfect Storm” challenges remain as urgent as ever.

    For Further Reading:

    The Perfect Storm: https://www.mma.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/MMA-APerfectStorm-HistoricFiscalPressures-report-10.9.25.pdf
    MMA webinar: Cultivating Transparency After a “Yes” Vote

    https://www.mma.org/resource/cultivating-transparency-after-a-yes-vote/
    MMA webinar: Managing Your Budget Without an Override

    https://www.mma.org/mma-offers-two-part-webinar-series-on-overrides-budget-challenges/

    More on UGGA funding: https://www.mma.org/gov-healey-signs-fy27-state-budget-with-40m-ugga-increase/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    34 min
  7. The Shifting Local Media Landscape: What It Means for Public Trust and Local Government

    Episode 20

    Show notes

    Local journalism has long been one of the pillars of healthy communities — informing residents, holding public officials accountable, and helping people understand the decisions that shape their daily lives. But as local newspapers continue to shrink or disappear, what does that mean for municipalities, and for democracy itself?

    In this episode, Dan Kennedy, journalism professor at Northeastern University and media commentator, and Karen Bordeleau, executive editor of The New Bedford Light, explore the decline of local news in Massachusetts, the rise of nonprofit journalism, and how changing media habits, social media, and AI are reshaping the information landscape. The conversation also examines why strong relationships between municipal leaders and local reporters matter more than ever.

    For Further Reading:

    More about Dan: https://dankennedy.net/
    More about Karen: https://newbedfordlight.org/meet-our-team/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    33 min
  8. Why Municipal HR Is More Strategic Than Ever

    Episode 19

    Show notes

    Across Massachusetts, cities and towns are facing one of their biggest workforce challenges in decades. Recruiting qualified employees is harder than ever, experienced staff are retiring, and employees' expectations around flexibility, career growth, and workplace culture continue to evolve.

    Massachusetts Municipal Human Resources association Chair Jen Breaker and Vice Chair Michael Taylor join the show to explore how municipal HR has become a strategic partner in helping communities navigate these challenges.

    They discuss why HR should have a seat at the leadership table, innovative approaches to recruiting and retaining talent, building career pathways, supporting employee well-being, and managing a workforce that now spans multiple generations. They also share practical ideas that don't require more spending — from rethinking job descriptions and hiring practices to improving policies, succession planning, and workplace culture.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about MMHR: https://www.mma.org/members/mmhr/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    41 min
  9. How Local Leaders Can Avoid Burnout and Build Stronger Teams

    Episode 18

    Show notes

    Municipal leaders are expected to solve problems, navigate public scrutiny, lead through uncertainty, and somehow avoid burning out along the way. But what if the key to becoming a better leader isn't working harder — it's learning when to step back?

    Leadership coach, podcast host, and author Chad Wright explains what he’s learned about the human side of public leadership — why burnout has become so common in local government, how constant connectivity erodes creativity and sound decision-making, and why leaders who neglect their own well-being often unintentionally undermine their teams.

    Chad shares practical strategies for building sustainable leadership habits and leading with what he calls "healthy vulnerability" during times of uncertainty.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about Chad and Forward Partners: https://www.forwardpartners.net/about

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    37 min
  10. The Financial Foundations of Local Government

    Episode 17

    Show notes

    Municipal finance, which touches nearly every service residents rely on, is a specialized field. In this episode, Sean Cronin, Senior Deputy Commissioner of the Massachusetts Division of Local Services, discusses how his agency supports cities and towns across the Commonwealth as they manage public resources.

    Cronin explains the dual role of DLS as a regulatory agency and a technical assistance partner — helping communities navigate everything from property tax administration and free cash certification to long-range financial planning and workforce development. He also shares how DLS is working to make municipal finance more accessible through training programs, online resources, and partnerships with community colleges.

    The conversation explores topics including financial resilience, the importance of long-term planning, and the impact of new growth under Proposition 2½.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about DLS: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/dls-senior-deputy-commissioner-and-bureaus

    Learn more about Mass financial policies: https://www.mma.org/mma-webinar-with-dls-covers-financial-policies/

    Proposition 2 ½: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/proposition-2-12-and-tax-rate-process

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    38 min
  11. Cutting Through the Noise: The Vital Role of Communications in Local Government

    Episode 16

    Show notes

    As misinformation spreads online, and residents expect instant updates, municipalities are under growing pressure to communicate clearly, effectively, and in a way that bolsters public trust. Some cities and towns have dedicated communications resources while others don’t, but they all face similar challenges – in an era increasingly dominated by social media and now AI. In this episode, we hear from Jeremy Warnick, Director of Media Relations and Content Strategy at the City of Cambridge, and Sean Dugan, Deputy Town Administrator in Easton, about communications strategies that really work, and why cities and towns increasingly need to act as their own media organizations.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about the Massachusetts Municipal Communicators:

    https://www.mma.org/mma-launches-mass-municipal-communicators-group/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    40 min
  12. The Leadership Skills Municipal Managers Need Now

    Episode 15

    Show notes

    Leadership is tough at any level, but working in local government presents a unique set of challenges – and requires specific skills. Executive coaches and leadership consultants Betsy and Anthony Neptune of Neptune Coaching have spent years helping municipal leaders fortify their skill set. They share why technical expertise doesn’t always translate into effective management, how municipal leaders can build trust and navigate conflict, and why workplace culture is really about “patterns of behavior,” not slogans written on a wall.

    For Further Reading:

    More about Neptune Coaching: https://www.neptunecoaching.com

    Creating a Culture of Collaboration: https://www.mma.org/resource/creating-a-culture-of-collaboration-helping-staff-with-problem-solving/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    42 min
  13. Guiding Principles of MMA Membership Work: Connection and Empowerment

    Episode 14

    Show notes

    MMA Membership Director Jackie Lavender Bird has been a city councillor, mayoral chief of staff, and a former MMA legislative leader, which means she can share a 360-degree view of local government. In this episode, she shares what she’s hearing from municipal officials who are navigating today’s fiscal pressures and rapid technological change. Bird discusses the professional development, peer learning, webinars, and events that the MMA offers to help members navigate difficult conversations, strengthen public trust, and communicate effectively — and the resilience of local leaders working to keep communities moving forward despite mounting challenges.

    For Further Reading:

    Bird Becomes MMA’s Membership Director: https://www.mma.org/as-pierce-retires-bird-becomes-mmas-membership-director/

    MMA Events calendar: https://www.mma.org/event/

    MMA Webinars program: https://www.mma.org/webinars/

    MMA Members page: https://www.mma.org/members/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    34 min
  14. The Quest for More Affordable Health Care in Massachusetts

    Episode 13

    Show notes

    Massachusetts is home to some of the best health care in the world, but it’s also one of the most expensive places to get it. Sarah Iselin, President and CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, unpacks what’s driving the surge in health care costs, and shares how insurers, providers, and policymakers are responding — and why none of the solutions come without trade-offs. The conversation digs into the real-world impact on municipal budgets, the limits of shifting costs to consumers, and the difficult choices leaders are facing between funding health care and investing in their communities. Iselin outlines where innovation is creating hope — from new care models and digital tools to prevention, primary care investment, and stronger collaboration across the system.

    For Further Reading:

    Health care costs: Defining the challenge and finding solutions: https://www.mma.org/advocacy/health-care-costs-defining-the-challenge-and-finding-solutions/

    Multiple factors contribute to rising health care costs: https://www.mma.org/multiple-factors-contribute-to-rising-health-care-costs/

    MMA forum explores health cost drivers, possible remedies: https://www.mma.org/mma-forum-explores-health-cost-drivers-possible-remedies/

    Blue Cross CEO says she's taking cost controls seriously in negotiations with hospitals: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/24/business/blue-cross-health-care-costs/

    The urgency of tackling health care affordability: https://commonwealthbeacon.org/opinion/the-urgency-of-tackling-health-care-affordability/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    44 min
  15. Inside the Work the Inspector General Does for Massachusetts

    Episode 12

    Show notes

    While safeguarding the public trust and preventing fraud, waste, and abuse is an essential role in the Commonwealth, Inspector General Jeff Shapiro is also on a mission to build relationships across the state and become a more collaborative, forward-looking partner for state agencies and cities and towns. He explains his “listening tour” approach — he has visited 100-plus communities so far to understand their challenges firsthand. From procurement hurdles in small towns to the realities of managing limited staff and resources, Shapiro emphasizes that most public employees are deeply committed to doing the right thing — and that education, training, and prevention are vital tools to get there.

    For Further Reading:

    More about the Inspector General: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/jeffrey-s-shapiro-inspector-general-of-massachusetts

    Inspector General releases first in series of advisories for municipal officials: https://www.mma.org/inspector-general-releases-first-in-series-of-advisories-for-municipal-officials/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    31 min
  16. Local Leaders Innovate to Provide Services

    Episode 11

    Show notes

    Each year, the MMA recognizes cities and towns that have developed unique and creative projects and programs to increase the effectiveness of local government. In this episode, we hear from this year’s winners: Amherst’s Movement and Mentoring program, the Andover at Work photography exhibit, and the North Attleborough/YMCA food pantry.

    For Further Reading:

    More about the 2026 winners:

    https://www.mma.org/amhersts-movement-and-mentoring-program-gives-students-an-early-morning-boost/

    https://www.mma.org/andover-at-work-exhibit-celebrates-municipal-work/

    https://www.mma.org/north-attleborough-local-ymca-partner-to-address-food-insecurity/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    47 min
  17. How Equity Affects Everyone in Massachusetts Communities

    Episode 10

    Show notes

    Jill Harvey is on a mission to help local leaders move beyond buzzwords and translate diversity, equity, and inclusion into real policies and actions. As the MMA’s first Chief Equity Officer, she shares the work she’s been doing across cities and towns in the state to help them realize how equity shows up in everyday decisions — from snow removal and trash collection to accessibility and community engagement. She shares how progress should be measured, what success looks like, and why she remains hopeful about the future of communities working to ensure that everyone has what they need to thrive.

    For Further Reading:

    More about Jill and her DEI work: https://www.mma.org/jillian-harvey-to-become-the-mmas-1st-equity-officer/

    https://www.mma.org/resource/demystifying-dei-legal-dei-practices-and-how-to-apply-them-to-your-community/

    (webinar)

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    36 min
  18. Inside the Network Supporting Massachusetts’ Small Town Leaders

    Episode 9

    Show notes

    The majority of Massachusetts cities and towns have fewer than 12,000 residents — but they’re still responsible for delivering the same services as larger communities. Ryan McLane of Carlisle and Denise Dembkoski of Stow, leaders of Small Town Administrators of Massachusetts (STAM), talk about what it really takes to run a small town. From staffing challenges and tight budgets to navigating volunteer boards and complex governance structures, they unpack the unique challenges — and surprising advantages — of municipal leadership in smaller communities. They’ll also share how STAM helps town administrators learn from one another, and builds a pipeline of future municipal leaders to drive meaningful progress.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about STAM: https://www.mma.org/members/managers/small-town-administrators-of-massachusetts/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    30 min
  19. Legislative Advocacy for All Massachusetts Communities

    Episode 8

    Show notes

    As Massachusetts heads into the final stretch of its two-year legislative session, the stakes for cities and towns across the Commonwealth couldn’t be higher.

    MMA Legislative Director Dave Koffman helps unpack the key municipal priorities currently pending on Beacon Hill — from public education funding and local aid in the Fiscal 2027 state budget to long-term investments in roads, bridges, and critical infrastructure. He speaks about how local leaders can help shape meaningful policy solutions, and offers a behind-the-scenes look at how the MMA advocates for all 351 cities and towns.

    For Further Reading:

    Navigating the Storm: Charting a Course Toward Fiscal Stability: https://www.mma.org/resources/a-perfect-storm-cities-and-towns-face-historic-fiscal-pressures/

    MMA offers policy recommendations to address fiscal ‘Perfect Storm’ facing municipalities: https://www.mma.org/mma-offers-policy-recommendations-to-address-fiscal-perfect-storm-facing-municipalities/

    MMA Legislative Package: https://www.mma.org/advocacy/mma-legislative-package/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    31 min
  20. Takeaways from Connect 351

    Episode 7

    Show notes

    From 1,400 attendees and 377 first-time participants to viral videos, fiery “Burning Questions,” and remarks from state and national leaders, this year’s Connect 351 event showcased both the scale and the spirit of local government in Massachusetts.

    In this episode, MMA Deputy Executive Director Katie McCue joins Adam and John to reflect on the moments, messages, and momentum from this year’s annual Massachusetts Municipal Association conference.

    You’ll hear why national leaders say the collaboration between local and state government in Massachusetts stands out across the country, how members are rallying around the MMA’s “Perfect Storm” report, and what it means to advocate collectively in challenging times.

    Plus, reflections on the event from Danvers Assistant Town Manager and Communications Director Jen Breaker, Sharon Select Board Chair Kiana Baskin, and Ashfield Town Administrator Paul McLatchy III.

    For Further Reading:

    Learn more about the event: https://www.mma.org/connect-351/

    To learn more about the MMA: www.mma.org

    30 min

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