The Hunt for Success

Dr. Sam McGough interviews Hall of Fame third baseman Wade “Chicken Man” Boggs about his baseball career, outdoor life, and health. Boggs discusses his TV work in the outdoor industry, early fishing and hunting influences, and how big-game pursuits expanded after retirement, including completing the North American sheep grand slam and pursuing African Big Five/Dangerous Seven and billfish slams. He explains how extensive game-day superstitions and regimented routines—such as eating chicken—helped create a positive mindset and manage pressure, while noting fewer rituals outdoors. Boggs compares the mental and physical demands of playoff baseball to strenuous hunts like sheep and elephant tracking, recounts a grizzly charge, and notes rising hunt costs and safety concerns in some regions. He also details his prostate cancer diagnosis, treatment, becoming cancer-free on Feb. 7, 2025, and urges regular PSA screening, while sharing his current fitness routine.

00:00 Meet Wade Boggs

01:03 Baseball to Outdoors

02:39 Early Hunting Roots

03:39 Big Game Journey

04:36 Rituals and Chicken

06:57 Pressure and Mindset

07:54 Minor League Grind

09:19 Superstitions Evolve

12:37 Athletics Meets Hunting

13:54 Sheep Hunts and Africa

16:30 Playoff Mental Game

18:35 Tampa Life and Fishing

20:11 Toughest Hunts Stories

24:53 Stand Sits and Serenity

28:51 Goals Leadership Legacy

32:42 Athletes Finding Tribe

34:21 Ballplayers Who Fish

36:11 Fishing Beats Golf

37:44 Chasing Trophy Marlin

39:04 Hunting Costs Explode

41:08 Travel Risks Abroad

42:40 New Zealand Dream Hunt

47:55 Tampa Fishing Plans

49:16 Tarpon And Shark Problem

51:40 Prostate Cancer Advocacy

57:04 Staying Fit For Hunts

57:43 Elk Hunt Reality Check

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About Wade Boggs

Wade Boggs is a National Baseball Hall of Famer and one of the most accomplished hitters in Major League Baseball history. Over an 18-year career with the Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees and Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Boggs collected 3,010 hits, won five American League batting titles, earned 12 All-Star selections and helped the Yankees win the 1996 World Series before being inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2005. Away from baseball, Boggs has developed an equally passionate connection to hunting and fishing, including completing the Grand Slam of North American wild sheep and the Royal Billfish Slam. In his conversation on Hunt for Success, Boggs shares how the routines and mental discipline that helped shape his baseball career carried into the outdoors, why he viewed personal goals as potentially putting a ceiling on achievement, and how hunting and fishing became both an escape from the pressures of professional baseball and a new source of challenge after retirement.

Links

Website WadeBoggs.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/officialwadeboggs/

Dr. Sam McGough interviews Marlon Mueller, a fourth-generation Iowa farmer who was shaped by the 1980s farm crisis and a multi-year estate lawsuit, leading him to study finances and become successful across farming, life insurance, and alternative real estate. Mueller recounts an early annuity mistake, later revisiting life insurance through deep research and adopting the infinite banking concept, stressing the need to discern misinformation online and to use mentors and trustworthy sources. He explains using whole life policies to borrow against cash value to fund investments, increasing “money velocity” by keeping dollars working in multiple places, often focusing on paying interest while pursuing higher-return real estate deals, with simple administration via annual premiums and tracking. The conversation covers faith-driven principles, calculated risk, rising living costs and debt burdens, and building generational wealth by teaching heirs mindset and money skills rather than simply passing money.

00:00 Farm Roots and Early Lessons

02:09 Farm Crisis and Estate Battle

03:14 Life Insurance Wake Up Call

04:41 Infinite Banking Explained

05:58 Finding Truth in Finance

08:05 Wealth Books and Mentors

09:56 Choosing the Right Agent

12:44 Money Velocity and Leverage

17:12 Admin Setup and Farm Life

20:12 Entrepreneur Mindset and Values

23:59 Faith Through Struggles

28:14 Teaching Generational Wealth

32:31 Avoiding the Third Gen Trap

34:20 What Income Feels Livable

35:17 Debt Versus Lifestyle

36:08 Housing Costs Surge

37:52 Assets Beat Inflation

38:35 Fuel Hits Businesses

40:07 Insurance And Deductibles

42:36 Credit Lines And Banks

44:15 Financial Literacy Gap

46:23 Failures And Persistence

49:39 Time And Consistency

52:46 Farm Work And Reset

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About Marlon

Marlon Mueller is a financial educator, investor, and fourth-generation farmer who helps individuals and business owners build lasting wealth through financial education, mindset, and long-term planning. His work focuses on helping people create financial freedom while leaving a meaningful legacy for future generations.

On the Hunt for Success podcast, the host interviews Christian Zeron, a longtime entrepreneur and watch enthusiast, about building resilience in business, balancing pride in hard work with financial outcomes, and staying principled even when it costs views or money. Zeron explains how he started Theo and Harris at 19 flipping vintage watches and later shifted most of his time to a marketing and consulting firm doing small and mid-size business strategy and commercial production. He describes souring on social media and content creation, then returning after his first hunt—a Louisiana duck hunt—sparked renewed passion and viral success. Zeron discusses rapidly taking up turkey, hog, goose, dove, and upcoming moose and potential bear hunts, how hunting community culture feels more welcoming than the watch world, and previews a new long-form series, “Meeting America,” focused on reconnecting with nature and American values.

00:00 Entrepreneur Roots

02:48 Watches Into Business

05:58 Handling Business Lows

09:00 Principles Over Clicks

11:20 Back To Content

15:37 First Duck Hunt

16:31 Chasing Adrenaline Hunts

19:40 Going Public Reluctantly

24:48 Outsider Honesty Wins

27:58 Hunting Vs Watch Culture

29:34 Hunters Everywhere Connect

30:16 Food Source Reality Check

32:23 Cooking And Better Stories

34:38 Hunting As Equalizer

38:51 Online Vs In Person

41:36 Upcoming Hunts Calendar

44:50 Camaraderie And Outdoors

47:21 Meeting America Mission

49:32 Private Equity Rollups

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About Christian

Christian Zeron is an entrepreneur, storyteller, and founder of Theo & Harris, a vintage watch company and media brand he launched in 2015. What began as a passion for vintage watches grew through Christian’s early use of YouTube and social media into a recognized voice in the watch industry. Today, his work combines entrepreneurship, luxury, digital media, and brand storytelling, with Theo & Harris creating content and campaigns for some of the world’s leading watch brands.

Links

Website: https://theoandharris.com/vintage-watches/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianzeron/

Dr. Sam McGough interviews financial advisor Chris Norton about his shift from traditional wealth management into sourcing late-stage private-company shares (e.g., SpaceX, xAI, Palantir) for high-net-worth clients through funds that buy access via investment banks, VCs on cap tables, and employee liquidity events. Norton explains how companies staying private longer moves value creation to private markets, why major banks reserve these deals for ultra-wealthy clients, and how his firm separates a traditional RIA business from the private fund operation. He outlines due diligence focused heavily on counterparty credibility, his ideal client allocating 10–20% for higher-growth opportunities, and lessons on maintaining a stable financial foundation while not market-timing. They discuss wins (SpaceX, HydroForum) and losses (Energy Vault), missed opportunities (Anthropic), and briefly connect investing and business lessons to fishing experiences and client selection.

00:00 Meet Chris Norton

01:58 Accessing Private Shares

05:19 Fund Operations Roles

07:38 Ideal Investor Profile

11:28 Wins and Losses Stories

15:02 SpaceX Long Term Thesis

19:50 Deal Flow Sectors Strategy

22:19 Investor Playbook Foundation

28:28 Fishing Life Lessons

32:40 Big Wins Investing

36:14 Firing Bad Customers

39:48 Tarpon Kayak Wakeup

42:37 Deals That Got Away

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About Chris Norton

Chris Norton is Senior Managing Director at Sutter Securities. He is also the co-founder and managing member of Strategic Growth Opportunities and Strategic Growth Ventures, where he helps identify and develop opportunities for long-term business growth.

Links

Website: Sgofund.com

Dr. Sam McGough interviews Dan Beaudoin, president and CEO of DMF Bait Company, whose live bait is sold in about 12,000 U.S. stores and has been in business 49 years. Beaudoin shares how the company began when his father, uncle, and a friend—Michigan teachers seeking summer income—were drawn into a red-worm “buyback” scam, then pivoted into supplying nightcrawlers after discovering demand from bait shops, despite nightcrawlers’ difficult sourcing and inability to reproduce in captivity. Key turning points included landing Kmart in the early 1980s, surviving a 1988 drought by shipping at a loss, and later expanding into Walmart, Bass Pro, and Cabela’s while developing proprietary nationwide shipping and packaging systems. He defines success as making DMF the “Kleenex of live bait,” emphasizes humility and culture, and describes DMF’s new tackle-line expansion for convenience stores.

00:00 Meet Dan Beaudoin

01:42 Worm Scam Origins

04:03 Nightcrawler Reality Check

11:01 Dan Joins the Business

19:05 Power Outage Worm Chaos

25:01 Landing Walmart and Big Box

32:26 Catawba Worm Goldmine

33:43 Defining Real Success

41:42 Building Lasting Culture

45:20 Leadership and Morale

52:29 Where to Buy DMF

54:18 Garlic Worm Proof

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About Dan

Dan Beaudoin is the owner and operator of DMF Bait, a family business founded in Pontiac, Michigan, in 1977. Under his leadership, the company has expanded its live-bait distribution across 49 states while continuing to innovate in packaging, shipping and product development. Dan is passionate about building a strong company culture, creating local employment and sustaining the sport of fishing for future generations. His goal is to make DMF Bait the most recognized name in live bait nationwide.

Links

Website http://www.dmfbait.com/

Dr. Sam McGough interviews Brian McNally, a Philadelphia working-class entrepreneur who exited a healthcare revenue-cycle business and is now writing a book, launching coaching, and developing a “founder operating system” focused on building a sellable asset by designing with the end in mind, setting a clear revenue target, replacing founder dependency, and keeping operations clean for an eventual buyer. McNally reflects on lessons from the exit, especially missed advanced tax strategies, and emphasizes defining personal success as freedom, health, family, and fulfillment rather than chasing societal “magic numbers.” He describes a major 2020 COVID-driven business downturn that triggered a spiral, then a disciplined turnaround using strict routines, fitness, jujitsu, and self-trust. He discusses purpose-driven entrepreneurship, charitable work with performance-based frameworks, his late-life MMA fight journey, and future plans including selective equity partnerships and digital products.

00:00 Meet Brian McNally

02:34 Rejecting The Fixed Income Life

07:36 Building A Sellable Company

12:05 Exit Regrets And Tax Moves

14:20 Defining Freedom And Enough

19:57 Post Exit Mission And Impact

27:19 Self Trust And Fix The Founder

30:36 Fitness Goals That Matter

32:00 Hunting Shape Reality Check

36:25 Family Reaction To Fighting

42:36 Performance Based Charity

45:41 Nature Hunting And Tradition

50:06 Where To Find Brian

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On the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Ben Jordan, a plumbing and HVAC entrepreneur, coach, and lifelong hunter who believes the skilled trades are positioned to create a new generation of millionaires. Jordan shares how reaching a breaking point led him to lose 120 pounds while running a growing company, why creating content became part of his responsibility to help others, and how service businesses can grow by focusing on root problems, consistent standards, and genuinely serving customers instead of simply chasing leads. He explains why he believes tradespeople often underestimate the businesses they’ve built and how changing the perception of blue-collar work could change thousands of lives. Jordan also shares stories from growing up elk hunting in Colorado, traveling to hunt with the great-aunt who helped raise him, and creating hunting experiences with his own family. He and Sam explore the similarities between hunting and entrepreneurship, including learning to enjoy preparation, embracing the work that comes after the win, continually raising your standards, and refusing to plateau. Jordan also discusses his plans to expand his coaching business, sell his plumbing company, help create 1,000 millionaires over the next decade, and why investing in yourself and your team can produce a greater return than any financial investment.

00:00 The Next Millionaires

00:34 Hunt For Success

01:11 Losing 120 Pounds

03:03 Content That Changes Lives

04:21 Opportunity In The Trades

07:20 Service Versus Fixing Problems

10:16 Finding The Root Cause

11:26 Systems Standards And Consistency

12:38 Growing Up Hunting

14:13 Hunting Dreams Become Reality

15:15 Hunting With Family

20:01 Now The Work Begins

20:44 Never Plateau In Business

21:21 Hunting And Raising Standards

22:25 Elk Versus Whitetail

25:47 Changing The Trades

27:16 Blue Collar Perception

28:38 Creating 1,000 Millionaires

31:39 Investing In Yourself

32:25 Building Great Teams

33:07 Living Up To Your Potential

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On the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough interviews Ken Wall, a 30-year fitness industry veteran, coach, author, and lifelong hunter from Pennsylvania who focuses on helping men and women over 40 regain fitness with less pain and lower risk. Wall explains how early injuries led him to study exercise science, how the industry shifted from looking good to “being good,” and why recovery depends on sleep, nutrition, stress management, and adjusting training to minimize risk. He discusses mobility as a major limiter for men, strength deficits in women, and his own routine of daily mobility and three weekly strength sessions. Wall shares lessons about maintaining health before it’s lost, parallels between business and fitness, and redefining success around peace of mind, family time, and relationships, especially after COVID and exiting a company. He also describes his book Hunting Beyond Limits, blending practical hunter-focused fitness with hunting stories, and how hunting offers spiritual reset and time in the tree.

00:00 Season Never Ends

02:19 Ken Wall Background

03:24 Fitness After 40

07:25 Recovery And Risk

09:25 Hunting Beyond Limits

11:58 Hunter Fitness Basics

13:52 Comfort Versus Capability

15:36 Cold Weather Gear

17:56 Ken Training Routine

19:02 Mobility And Nolan Ryan

28:16 Business And Relationships

34:05 Redefining Success

40:40 Weathering Business Storms

43:36 One Lesson For Life

45:56 All Or Nothing Trap

48:40 Wiring Kids For Hard Things

50:56 Phones Changed Childhood

57:01 Senses In The Woods

59:51 Book Resources And Coaching

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About Guest

30 year fitness industry professional. I just exited a 10 year fitness training business serving mostly 40 and up professionals. I'm in the planning stages of another fitness training business and have written a couple books. Most recently, Hunting Beyond Limits, it was a project that meshes my two passions, helping people do what they love to do with more confidence and hunting. I'm a country boy at heart and grew up hunting and fishing.

Links

Website: http://huntingbeyondlimits.com

LInkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-wall-478a82106/

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ken.wall.75/

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coachkenw570/

Dr. Sam McGough interviews business growth expert Carl Gould of Seven Stage Advisors about his entrepreneurial path from starting and selling landscaping and construction/development businesses to coaching since 1990 and building Seven Stage Advisors in 2002. Gould explains how he developed a framework linking an owner’s behavioral style to business strengths and blind spots across strategy, business development, operations, and finance, and says he can drive 10%–30% revenue growth by addressing those blind spots. He highlights common constraints including poor pricing, trying to be everything to everyone, lack of strategic planning, and feast-or-famine business development, emphasizing consistent funnel activity and building scalable systems. Gould discusses hypergrowth (20%+ annual growth), “seasons” of society and buying behavior, the value of focusing on ideal client avatars, and creating an “obnoxious offer” that is premium in value and targeted to a core audience.

00:00 When It Gets Easy

00:25 Podcast Intro

01:00 Meet Carl Gould

02:12 From Injury To Business

03:27 Becoming A Coach

05:28 Business Mirrors Owner

09:34 Pricing Mistakes Early

11:25 Choose Your Audience

15:12 Brand Rules Examples

17:02 Hypergrowth Seasons

25:21 Know Your Avatar

28:45 Selling Multiple Avatars

30:05 Biz Dev Blind Spots

30:36 Escape Feast Famine

35:18 Growth vs Scaling Systems

36:50 Bigger Truck Infrastructure

40:39 Fishing Lessons for Business

46:09 Hunting Trips and Reset

48:20 Entrepreneur Rhythms and Family

51:59 Advice Pricing and Offers

53:51 Obnoxious Offer Wrap Up

54:56 Where to Find Carl

55:22 Final Sign Off

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About Guest

Carl Gould is a serial entrepreneur, author, speaker, and one of the world's leading business growth advisors. By the age of 40, he had built three multi-million-dollar companies before dedicating his career to helping other entrepreneurs achieve lasting success. As the founder of 7 Stage Advisors, Carl has developed coaching and consulting methodologies now used in more than 75 countries, training, certifying, and accrediting over 7,000 business coaches and mentors worldwide. His clients have gone on to become award-winning companies, with many earning recognition on prestigious lists such as the Inc. 500 and Inc. 5000. Known for combining practical business strategy with a passion for mentoring others, Carl continues to help leaders build scalable, profitable businesses while creating meaningful impact in their communities.

LInks

Website: https://7stageadvisors.com/

On the Hunt for Success podcast, Sam interviews Matt Fourie, a senior enterprise leader at Siemens Digital Industries Software who leads the General Motors business. Matt describes growing up in South Africa with early exposure to hunting through his father, later moving away from hunting due to lifestyle and restrictive gun culture, and rediscovering hunting after moving to the U.S. around age 30. He connects South Africa’s “hustle” environment to resilience, work ethic, and restarting at the bottom in America without a degree or network. Matt discusses traits of high performers—grit, faith in Christ, mentorship, humility, authenticity, and “over deliver”—and shares a major career setback running an electroplating company that taught him not to chase money unprepared. The conversation ties hunting lessons—pursuit, patience, preparation, and saying no—to leadership, integrity, and sales ethics, alongside talk of rifles, cartridges, SCI convention impressions, and defining success as faith, family legacy, excellence, and time wealth.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

01:21 Growing Up South African

01:57 Early Hunting Roots

03:54 Hustle Mindset and Work Ethic

06:12 Starting Over in America

07:56 High Performers and Mentors

10:14 When Business Goes Sideways

12:02 Hard Lessons and Faith

15:32 Gear Talk and Gunworks Rifles

18:30 South Africa Hunt Stories

20:35 Hunting Mindset for Business

23:49 Outlasting the Game

24:10 Hunting Decisions and Saying No

24:48 Dangerous Game Preparation

26:11 Sales Integrity and Risk

27:59 Four-Part Decision Filter

29:20 Defining Success and Legacy

31:45 Time Wealth and Exits

34:14 SCI Show Guns and Money

38:51 Africa Rifles and Long Shots

41:29 Final Thanks and Wrap

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About the Guest:

Matt Fourie is a Senior Enterprise Leader at Siemens Digital Industries Software, where he leads the strategic partnership and business operations for General Motors—Siemens' largest automotive customer.

Originally from South Africa, he grew up in the "bushveld" environment where his father was a professional hunter and game farm manager. This background instilled in him a unique "hustle" mentality and a focus on radical responsibility, which he later applied to his corporate career in the United States.

Connect with Matt:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-fourie/

In this episode of the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Tucker Green, business owner, public servant, lobbyist, and advocate for the skilled trades industry.

The conversation explores leadership, public policy, persistence, and advocacy, shaped by Tucker’s experience serving as the youngest school board member in Georgia, building a successful governmental affairs firm, and representing contractors across the state through association management and legislative engagement.

Throughout the discussion, Tucker breaks down the realities of lobbying, the importance of staying connected to the people you represent, and how persistence often determines success in both politics and business. He also shares hunting lessons that mirror professional growth, including patience, preparation, resilience, and earning results through consistent effort over time.

Key Takeaways

[Persistence Creates Results]: Meaningful wins often come after repeated setbacks, challenges, and long-term commitment.

[Advocacy Protects Businesses]: Effective representation can save contractors significant time, money, and regulatory burdens.

[Stay Connected to Your People]: Leaders make better decisions when they remain closely connected to those they serve.

[Your Reputation Matters]: Integrity, accountability, and honoring your word create opportunities that last a lifetime.

00:00 – Pay It Forward Mindset

00:59 – Podcast Intro and Guest Introduction

02:22 – Early Life and Interest in Politics

03:37 – From School Board to Lobbying Career

05:50 – Building a Government Affairs Firm

07:30 – Rising Star Recognition in Georgia Politics

08:34 – The Reality of Legislative Advocacy

11:20 – Winning Permit Fee Reform for Contractors

15:57 – Staying Connected to Members Across Georgia

20:14 – Hunting Roots and Outdoor Traditions

22:32 – Bird Hunting and Camp Experiences

24:15 – Iowa Hunting Trips and Family Traditions

25:22 – Bucket List Hunts and Future Adventures

27:33 – Preferred Hunting Equipment and Setup

31:41 – Hunting Lessons Applied to Business

36:38 – Handling Failure and Professional Setbacks

39:32 – Advice for Young Professionals

42:43 – Where to Connect with Tucker

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About the Guest

Tucker Green is a government affairs professional, business owner, lobbyist, and advocate for skilled trades businesses throughout Georgia.

They are recognized for their legislative leadership, association management expertise, and successful advocacy efforts on behalf of HVAC, plumbing, and electrical contractors.

Their background includes public service, political strategy, governmental affairs, and representing industry organizations at the state level.

Guest Resources

Tucker Green

Website: https://tuckergreenandassociates.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tucker-green-6a7b00224/?trk=profile-badge

In this episode of the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Hugh Hornsby, trades industry leader, business builder, speaker, and author of the upcoming book Blue Collar Smart.

The conversation explores resilience, leadership, business growth, and personal responsibility, shaped by Hugh’s journey through childhood epilepsy, major business setbacks, a stage four cancer diagnosis, and decades of helping companies and individuals unlock their potential.

Throughout the discussion, Hugh breaks down how focusing on people, sales systems, mentorship, and personal accountability helped him build and transform businesses. He also shares lessons learned from hunting, family traditions, networking, and surrounding yourself with the right people, while emphasizing the importance of becoming valuable to others and creating opportunities through service and relationships.

Key Takeaways

[Adversity Builds Strength]: Personal challenges can become the foundation for resilience, perspective, and long-term success.

[People Drive Performance]: Great businesses are built by identifying potential, developing talent, and creating opportunities for others to succeed.

[Focus Creates Growth]: Applying the 80/20 principle and narrowing your attention to high-impact activities accelerates results.

[Relationships Open Doors]: Becoming important to the right people through value, service, and trust creates opportunities that money cannot buy.

00:00 – Podcast Intro and Guest Introduction

01:50 – Childhood Epilepsy and Early Challenges

04:34 – Entering the Trades Industry

05:31 – Learning from Failure and Taking Ownership

10:46 – Building a Fraternity Through Inclusion

16:51 – People-First Leadership Principles

18:22 – Mentorship from the Napoleon Hill Foundation

20:06 – Hunting, Fishing, and Family Traditions

30:22 – Turning Around Struggling Companies

32:02 – The Power of Niche Focus and Be, Do, Have

38:36 – Hunting Bonds and Parenting Lessons

40:19 – Comedy, Cancer, and Healing Through Vulnerability

47:02 – AI, Private Equity, and Industry Changes

52:27 – Why Everything Is Sales

56:38 – Networking and Finding the Right Rooms

01:12:00 – Exit Planning for Trades Businesses

01:17:20 – Sales Systems and Scaling Lessons

01:31:17 – Wealth, Freedom, and Gratitude

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About the Guest

Hugh Hornsby is a trades industry leader, business strategist, speaker, and entrepreneur focused on helping companies grow through leadership, sales systems, and people development.

They are the author of the upcoming book Blue Collar Smart, which focuses on practical business wisdom, personal responsibility, and creating success through discipline, relationships, and execution.

Guest Resources

Hugh Hornsby

Website: http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hugh.hornsby

In this episode of the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Gregory DePriest, entrepreneur, Amazon logistics operator, former pastor, and leadership strategist.

The conversation explores personal reinvention, leadership, business growth, and the mindset required to continually evolve, shaped by Gregory’s journey from banking and finance to ministry leadership and eventually building a successful Amazon logistics company employing more than 200 people.

Throughout the discussion, Gregory breaks down the importance of knowing when to pivot, creating structure and accountability within organizations, and building success through relationships, strategy, and personal growth. He also shares how hunting, fishing, and outdoor pursuits mirror business by rewarding preparation, patience, discipline, and the pursuit itself rather than just the outcome.

Key Takeaways

[Reinvention Creates Opportunity]: Recognizing when it is time for a new chapter allows leaders to continue growing and expanding their impact.

[Strategy Gives Faith Direction]: Vision alone is not enough, successful outcomes require systems, planning, and execution.

[Culture Drives Performance]: Strong teams thrive when expectations, accountability, and rewards are clearly aligned.

[Choose Your Circle Carefully]: Growth accelerates when surrounded by people who provide trust, encouragement, and honest feedback.

00:00 – The Impossible to Fail Mindset

01:20 – Gregory’s Early Life and Career Journey

02:19 – From Banking to Pastoral Leadership

03:39 – Fundraising Success and Amazon Logistics Launch

05:54 – Why Reinvention Matters

10:26 – Moving to Austin and Starting Over

14:59 – Dreaming Bigger Than Fear

18:09 – Ignoring Opinions and Building Confidence

21:29 – Performance-Based Leadership

27:01 – Business Lessons Learned Through Hunting

30:28 – Creating Exceptional Experiences

33:44 – Customer Service Lessons from Luxury Brands

37:32 – Building the Right Tribe

40:39 – Trust, Relationships, and Safe Circles

45:50 – Favorite Hunts and Fishing Adventures

49:53 – Bucket List Experiences and Future Plans

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About the Guest

Gregory DePriest is an entrepreneur, Amazon logistics operator, leadership mentor, and former pastor with decades of experience leading organizations and teams.

They are recognized for successfully transitioning across multiple industries, including banking, ministry, fundraising, and logistics, while building high-performing teams and scalable operations.

Their background includes financial services, church leadership, nonprofit fundraising, and last-mile logistics management.

They are passionate about helping people embrace growth, develop strong leadership skills, and pursue opportunities without being limited by fear or the opinions of others.

Guest Resources

Gregory DePriest

Website: https://www.sglva.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-depriest-b391aa58

In this episode of the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Jeramie Worley, a real estate investor, hospitality entrepreneur, and co-owner of Lake Longbow.

The conversation explores executive recovery, outdoor hospitality, and legacy property development, shaped by Jeramie's experience in short-term rentals, real estate investing, and creating experiences that help leaders disconnect from stress and reconnect with what matters most.

Throughout the discussion, Jeramie breaks down the vision behind Lake Longbow, an 80-acre Missouri retreat built around hunting, fishing, land stewardship, and meaningful relationships. He shares lessons from building and operating the property, overcoming development setbacks, creating premium guest experiences, and helping burned-out executives find clarity through time outdoors.

Key Takeaways

[Nature Creates Clarity]: Stepping away from daily pressures allows leaders to reconnect with purpose, relationships, and long-term vision.

[Launch Before Perfect]: Progress comes from taking action quickly, learning from real-world feedback, and improving as you go.

[Experiences Build Relationships]: Shared outdoor adventures create trust, vulnerability, and deeper personal connections.

[Legacy Requires Stewardship]: Building a meaningful property involves long-term commitment, patience, and care for the land.

00:00 – Podcast Intro and Guest Introduction

01:32 – Jeramie’s Airbnb Investing Journey

03:05 – Why Executives Need Time Outdoors

04:52 – Purchasing and Developing Lake Longbow

11:46 – Touring the Property and Amenities

14:51 – The Luxury Hunting Retreat Experience

18:00 – Campfire Conversations and Vulnerability

24:28 – Ethical Hunting and Respect for Wildlife

28:00 – Business Lessons from Hospitality

33:08 – Outdoor Retreat Concepts and Future Plans

37:18 – Shared Ownership and Expansion Vision

43:47 – The Mission Behind Lake Longbow

51:30 – Why Taking Action Matters

55:07 – The Three Essentials for Success

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About the Guest

Jeramie Worley is a real estate investor, hospitality operator, and co-owner of Lake Longbow, a private outdoor retreat focused on executive renewal and outdoor experiences.

They are recognized for their early adoption of short-term rental investing and for helping guests create meaningful experiences through hospitality and land stewardship.

Their background includes real estate investing, vacation rental operations, outdoor recreation, and retreat development.

They are the author of an early Airbnb investing book and continue to focus on helping entrepreneurs and leaders create freedom through strategic real estate and hospitality ventures.

Guest Resources

Jeramie Worley

Website: https://lakelongbow.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeramie-worley/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lakelongbow/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LakeLongbowResort

In this episode of the Hunt for Success, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Chris Rood, a real estate investor, operator, and former blue-collar business owner.

The conversation explores a long-form wealth building philosophy shaped by Chris Rood’s journey from mobile oil change operations to scaling multiple automotive shops, then transitioning into real estate investing, development, and portfolio expansion across mobile home parks, short-term rentals, and land development.

Throughout the discussion, Chris breaks down his framework of fast, medium, and slow money, including how disciplined reinvestment, operational experience, and long-term thinking create durable wealth while avoiding over-leverage and short-term traps in real estate education.

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About the Guest

Chris Rood is a real estate investor, entrepreneur, and former multi-location automotive business owner. He is recognized for building and scaling multiple operational businesses before transitioning into real estate investing and development.

His background includes hands-on experience in service-based trades, business acquisition, and large-scale property investment strategies including mobile home parks and land development.

Guest Resources

Chris Rood

Website: https://chrisrood.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-rood-72a76276/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realestaterood/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chrisroodentrepreneur/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisRoodentrepreneur

In this episode of the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Chris Udall, a venture capitalist and ecosystem builder working at the intersection of startups, capital formation, and regional innovation.

The conversation explores venture capital, founder development, and innovation ecosystem building, shaped by Chris’ experience creating educational pathways for refugees in Jordan, managing early-stage investment funds in Alabama, and supporting technology transfer initiatives tied to Huntsville’s engineering base.

Throughout the discussion, Chris breaks down how venture capital evaluates early-stage, high-risk, scalable startups, including how founder traits like grit, coachability, and adaptability often determine long-term outcomes more than initial ideas. He also connects these principles to hunting, drawing parallels between decision-making under pressure, preparation, resource allocation, and learning through failure.

Key Takeaways

[Grit Over Ideas]: Startup success is driven more by founder resilience and adaptability than the originality of the initial concept.

[Capital as Ecosystem Fuel]: Strategic funds can keep talent and intellectual property local while attracting outside investment.

[Pressure Decision-Making]: Both hunting and entrepreneurship require clear thinking under uncertainty and fatigue.

[Failure as Feedback]: Burnout, setbacks, and missed opportunities become critical inputs for better future decisions.

00:00 – Podcast Intro and Guest Introduction

00:52 – Understanding Venture Capital in Practice

02:18 – Chris’ Unconventional Career Path

04:52 – Launching Alabama’s Capital Access Fund

08:27 – First Experiences in Hunting

14:05 – Parallels Between Hunting and Entrepreneurship

18:42 – Why Startups Fail Early

23:43 – Lessons from an Elk Hunt

32:03 – What VCs Look for in Founders

36:28 – Risk, Burnout, and Decision Pressure

42:57 – Community, Networking, and Ecosystem Growth

50:16 – International Hunting and Expansion Goals

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"Success should fund a life you actually want, not a self-created prison."

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About the Guest

Chris is a venture capitalist and innovation ecosystem leader focused on early-stage startup growth and regional capital development.

They are recognized for building and managing investment initiatives that support high-potential founders and strengthen local innovation pipelines in Alabama.

Their background includes experience in education initiatives for refugees, venture funding, and technology transfer programs connected to Huntsville’s engineering ecosystem.

They are focused on expanding access to capital and strengthening founder success through structured investment and support systems.

Guest Resources

Chris Udall

Website: https://innovatealabama.org/programs/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-udall

In this episode of the Hunt for Success podcast, Dr. Sam McGough welcomes his friend Eric Killen, owner of Killen Outdoor Adventures in Killen, Alabama, to discuss how Eric built an 11-year hunting and fishing travel business while continuing a 26-year corporate sales career.

Eric explains his client-first model, where outfitters pay his fee, clients receive vetted options across roughly 48 global locations, and every trip is personally verified by him or his team before anyone is sent. He also breaks down the end-to-end support system that covers airport pickup, outfitter coordination, paperwork, taxidermy, trophy importation, and global delivery through his logistics company, while outsourcing air travel.

Throughout the conversation, Eric shares how early bad booking experiences shaped his standards, how he scaled operations by hiring help, and how he designs trips that include post-hunt travel experiences to make them spouse-friendly and more accessible.

This episode highlights how disciplined systems, trust-based service, and lifestyle design come together to build both a business and a life built around freedom, and why traits like patience, persistence, and a driven mindset show up in both successful entrepreneurs and hunters.

Key Takeaways

[Vetting creates trust at scale]: Every location is personally verified before clients are sent, ensuring consistent and reliable experiences.

[Service design beats marketing]: Word of mouth and client experience drive growth more than promotion or advertising.

[Discipline shows up in both business and hunting]: Patience, persistence, and emotional control directly influence success in the field and in entrepreneurship.

[Lifestyle is built, not stumbled into]: Freedom comes from intentional choices around work, time, and long-term priorities.

00:00 – Designing Freedom Life

00:22 – Podcast Welcome Setup

01:17 – Meet Eric Killen

02:35 – From Sales to Outfitting

04:10 – Business Model Client First

08:35 – Luxury Trips Africa Australia

11:16 – Trust Stories Proof

12:52 – Traits of High Performers

16:41 – Scaling Logistics Systems

17:51 – Guns Paperwork Trophies

19:35 – Partners Delivery Service

20:21 – Trophy Wall Negotiations

21:35 – Getting Mary Into Hunting

23:33 – Designing a Travel Life

25:35 – Europe and Spain Hunting

27:02 – Scouting and Client Fit

29:21 – Success Keys No Debt

32:32 – Hunting and Business Traits

34:38 – Field Essentials and Gear

37:09 – Closing and Sign Off

About the Guest

Eric Killen is a hunting outfitter and entrepreneur who built Killen Outdoor Adventures into a global service business focused on hunting, travel, and logistics.

He is recognized for creating a highly vetted, service-first model that prioritizes client experience, safety, and reliability across international destinations.

His background includes long-term experience in corporate sales and business development, alongside building a multi-location outdoor adventure company serving clients worldwide.

He is the founder of Killen Outdoor Adventures, focused on delivering fully managed hunting and travel experiences from booking through trophy delivery.

Guest Resources

Eric Killen

Website: https://www.killenoutdoor.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/killen_outdoor_adventures/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KillenOutdoorAdventures/

In this episode of The Hunt for Success, host Sam McGough sits down with Theron Leany, an owner and operator at Action Plumbing, Heating, Air and Electric. Operating across four states, Theron shares his journey from hands-on appliance repair to executing multi-state corporate acquisitions and high-level consulting.

The conversation focuses on the "intrapreneur" mindset, transforming company culture by hiring for character over industry experience, and how structural clarity in business emerges naturally when you anchor yourself to your original "Why." Theron also discusses how bow hunting serves as a high-stress decompression tool and a powerful training ground for teaching youth resilience, problem-solving, and patience.

Key Takeaways

• The Intrapreneurial Leap: Moving from an employee to an equity partner requires treating the business as your own from day one. Taking "extreme ownership" and intentionally making yourself invaluable creates opportunities where owners are eager to share equity.
• Anchoring Structure to the "Why": Business chaos and lack of structure usually happen because owners lose sight of their original mission. When you re-focus purely on why you started (e.g., to help employees hit six figures or provide elite service), the tactical steps and organizational blueprint become instantly clear.
• Hiring Heart Over History: In the trades, poaching experienced workers can often mean inheriting toxic, short-term habits. Pivoting to hire high-character individuals from outside the industry and training them from scratch builds an elite, loyal culture centered on genuine customer care.
• Actionable Steps vs. "Rah-Rah" Fluff: Real business growth doesn't happen through motivational hype or emotional cheerleading. Long-term scalability requires hyper-specific, repeatable, and tactical steps.

Episode Timeline

• 00:00 – Editorial: Staying Tethered to Your Original Business "Why"
• 01:15 – Introducing Theron Laney of Action Plumbing, Heating, Air and Electric
• 02:00 – From Appliance Repair to Inside Sales: Overcoming a Pivot-Point Injury
• 03:10 – The Pay Cut Shortcut: Making Yourself Invaluable to Earn Business Equity
• 05:00 – The Power of the Ask: Why Entrepreneurs Can't Wait Around for Opportunities
• 06:15 – Childhood Foundations: How Raising Chickens and Small Side Hustles Taught Pride of Ownership
• 08:15 – The Myth of Formal Schooling for High-Performance Founders
• 09:20 – Sweat Equity & Iteration: Adapting Operational Identity Every $5 Million
• 11:15 – Reindeer for Christmas: Theron’s Early Introduction to Hunting Traditions
• 12:50 – Bow Hunting as Active Meditation and Unplugging from 4-State Operational Stress
• 14:40 – Hunting New Mexico and Utah: The Differences in Elk and Mule Deer Behavior
• 16:20 – Surviving a 8-Man Team Walkout: Transitioning from Toxic Culture to Care-Driven Scale
• 18:50 – Why the Technicians Who Care the Most Out-Sell the Competition
• 21:00 – Elevating the Industry: The Choice to Consult and Coach Competitors
• 22:15 – Skin in the Game: Why People Only Pay Attention to What They Pay For
• 24:30 – Fleet Presentation: How Clean, Organized Trucks Decompress Techs and Drive Sales
• 26:15 – Changing Family Trees: Moving a Temp-Agency Worker to Multiple Six Figures
• 29:00 – Managing Skyrocketing Inflation and Changing Public Price Expectations
• 31:15 – Building a Whitetail Legacy in Kansas: Passing Problem-Solving and Wilderness Parables to Youth
• 35:00 – Actionable Consulting: Where to Find Theron and Ben Jordan Online

About the Guest

Theron Leany is a seasoned intrapreneur, partner, and executive leader at Action Plumbing, Heating, Air and Electric, a dominant home services provider operating across four states. Alongside his business partner Ben Jordan, Theron runs The Action Group, a tactical consulting firm designed to help home service owners build tight operational structures and adapt their leadership systems for major revenue milestones.

Connect with the Guest:

• Website: https://actionplumbing.net/

In this episode of The Hunt for Success, host Sam McGough connects with Mark Baker, President and Owner of ACRE Development Corporation. Recording from Prince Edward Island (PEI), Canada, Mark shares his transition from a second-generation operator in the high-volume retail gasoline and convenience sector to a successful commercial real estate land developer.

The conversation focuses on the strategic shift from daily business operations to the long-term, high-stakes process of ground-up commercial development, drawing parallels between the deep preparation required for real estate and the patience of the outdoor lifestyle.

Key Takeaways

• Quantifying and Mitigating Risk: True entrepreneurs aren't recklessly risk-tolerant; instead, they immerse themselves in their niche, utilizing knowledge and experience to reduce vague risks to a highly finite, quantified number.
• The Power of Execution over Capital: Success in real estate development relies on three factors: capital, knowledge, and the ability to execute. If a developer possesses the knowledge and execution strategy, the necessary capital can always be sourced from outside investors.
• The "Hunt" of Development: There is a distinct psychological difference between business operation and business development. While daily operations can invite complacency, the complex 18-to-24-month horizon of land development—securing tenants, analyzing traffic patterns, and legal forecasting—mirrors the thrill and patience of a long-term hunt.
• The Future of the Trades: Despite the rise of AI data collection in market analysis, human intuition, local physical site assessment, and hands-on skilled trades (like plumbing and HVAC) remain fully insulated from automation.

Episode Timeline

• 00:00 – Defining and Quantifying Risk in Commercial Real Estate
• 01:10 – Meet Mark Baker: President of ACRE Development Corporation
• 02:00 – Legacy in the Gas Station Business: Rebuilding from the Ground Up
• 03:15 – The Pivot to Land Development and Second-Gen Commercial Real Estate
• 04:10 – Identifying Market Criteria and International Brand Partnerships
• 05:40 – Tax Incentives: Comparing the US IRS Code to Canadian Structures
• 06:50 – Mitigating Risk by Staying in Your Lane and Avoiding "Flipping"
• 08:15 – The Three Pillars of Real Estate: Capital, Knowledge, and Execution
• 09:40 – An Overview of Prince Edward Island’s World-Class Bluefin Tuna & Shellfish Fisheries
• 11:20 – The Parallel Between the Prep-Work of Development and the Outdoor Hunt
• 13:40 – Navigating the Complexities of 100-Page Commercial Leases
• 15:00 – Scalability Decisions: When to Expand Operations vs. When to Exit and Pivot
• 16:45 – Time Management Benefits: Shifting from High-Volume Staffing to Lean Operations
• 18:15 – The Longevity and Bright Future of Hands-On Blue-Collar Trades
• 19:30 – AI in Real Estate: Accelerating Data Analytics vs. Irreplaceable Physical Site Intuition
• 21:30 – Local Angling: The Emergence of Striped Bass and Atlantic Salmon on PEI

About the Guest

Mark Baker is a Canadian entrepreneur and the President and Owner of ACRE Development Corporation based in Prince Edward Island. After a successful decade running and leasing a high-volume regional retail gasoline operation and coffee franchise, Mark transitioned his focus entirely to commercial land development, securing premium locations for national and international corporate brands.

Connect with the Show: For more episodes, resources, and insights on building wealth and designing freedom, visit https://www.thehuntforsuccess.com.

Dr. Kendall Price went from chiropractic school to 200 patient visits a week in just 90 days, not by accident, but by applying "boots-on-the-ground" marketing systems before he even opened his doors. Now, as founder of Elevate Marketing, he helps chiropractors build consistent patient acquisition through repeatable, scalable systems.

In this episode of Hunt for Success, Dr. Sam McGough sits down with Dr. Price to break down how understanding numbers like lifetime value and patient acquisition cost changes every business decision — how process and people create businesses that can actually be sold — and how a move to central Illinois, a bird dog, and a bow opened up a second life built around family, faith, and the outdoors.

What You'll Learn:

– How Dr. Price launched to 200 visits/week in 90 days using repeatable marketing

– Why knowing your patient LTV changes how you spend, hire, and grow

– How systems and people create a business you can eventually sell

– What it looks like to walk away at the right time — and why he has no regrets

– How hunting, faith, and family keep his mind sharp and his business focused

01:27 Learning Marketing In School

02:25 Scaling A Practice Fast

03:53 Systems, People, and LTV

06:30 Mentors, Numbers, and Delegation

10:20 Selling Practice & Buying Out Partner

13:30 Move To Illinois & Outdoors Life

14:23 How He Started Hunting

15:21 Bird Dog and Bowhunting

17:22 Canada Fishing Trips

21:06 Kids, Family, and Outdoors Lessons

24:24 Farm Work as Therapy

25:43 Faithful Tree Stand Routine

27:06 Food Plots & Big Bucks

28:30 Trophy Standards Debate

32:34 Business Numbers Non-Negotiables

37:06 Pricing & Value Communication

38:04 Bow Setup & Gear Talk

39:00 First Big Splurge — The Boat

41:48 Land Ownership & Family Hunts

42:54 Brotherhood, Mastermind & Tribe

47:26 Systems Create Freedom

About the Guest

Dr. Kendall Price is a former chiropractor and founder of Elevate Marketing, where he helps chiropractors scale their businesses through effective marketing systems and operational strategy. Known for his strong focus on processes, leadership, and long-term business growth, Kendall also shares his passion for hunting, fishing, and family life throughout the episode.

Guest Resources:

Elevate Marketing: https://goelevatemarketing.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drkendallprice/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drkendallprice/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendall-price-5681b189/