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Today I’m so honored to introduce you all to: Satanic ritual abuse, mind control, and organized abuse survivor, overcomer, and now whistleblower, devoted wife and loving mother to 4-going-on-5-children, Nurse Practitioner, homemaker, homeschooler and home-birther, holistic healing, healthy food and cooking, and wellness lover, gardener, writer and blogger on Substack, social media content creator, SRA educator, and the brightest light in the darkness: Vanesa Judd

A little bit about Vanesa and what you can expect to hear about on today’s episode:

Born on March 15 - the Ides of March - into a lineage where trauma stretched back multiple generations on both sides of her family, she entered the world through a traumatic birth. In deep therapeutic work years later, Vanesa accessed the raw emotion of that arrival: an intense, thrashing reluctance to be born, as if some part of her already sensed the type of life she was about to enter. She was the eldest of five siblings. On her father’s side ran military intelligence, church history, and roots tracing through the Cannon-McGinnis line to Gaelic origins and the Isle of Man. Her grandfather, a historian and former Pentagon consultant, and her father - a Green Beret - carried the weight of service and, she believes, deeper dissociation and mind-control patterning. On her mother’s side, the story held war trauma, physical and sexual abuse, and stories of occult practice, altars, and fear. Both lines held conscious and trauma-driven participation in the same ritualistic abuse that she experienced as a child.

Outwardly, her childhood looked like military moves, good schools, and opportunity. She was the quiet, somber “Little Bear” with big brown eyes and rare smiles - yet she excelled in everything she did - creating an optical illusion that made her abuse invisible from the outside looking in. Gifted programs, competitive sports, cheerleading, track, cross-country, state and local beauty pageant titles in Miss America and Miss USA, a 4.0, and the perfectionism of someone who learned early that being “good” and invisible was safer. Then at night after a full schedule of electives, sports, and school, rituals would occur with drives from a Bountiful, Utah home into the hands of a hidden cult network.

The memories that Vanesa had dissociated began flooding back in February of this year and were vivid, detailed and overwhelming. For the first time, she felt she did not want to live. A blessing and the sudden, clear thought - “This is not just about you” - shifted everything. She realized she was not alone and that others were still trapped or newly remembering.

Today Vanesa is a Family Nurse Practitioner who spent nearly a decade as an RN before specializing in primary care and women’s health and nutrition via telehealth. She is the mother of four - and soon to be five - children whom she homeschools, tending garden, meals, and home systems while preparing for the December birth of her newest child. She speaks out now because secrecy is the soil in which such evil grows - and light and awareness starve it. She wants family members and friends of survivors to recognize the language when it appears so they can say, “I have heard of this - tell me more,” rather than shut the door. Her counsel to other survivors is simple and hard-won: first believe and accept your own story; then look outward. The knowledge gained by enduring can be turned toward healing others. For helpers, the greatest gift is listening without immediate judgment and educating themselves so the “fantastical” becomes understandable.

Vanesa did not choose the multi-generational inheritance that nearly claimed her. She has chosen, again and again, to meet it with honesty, professional skill, maternal devotion, and a voice that refuses to stay silent. In doing so she models what is possible: that the child who once thrashed against being born, who carried invisible wounds while collecting trophies and titles, who faced the return of the unspeakable and still rose to care for her children and others, can become a beacon of hope. Her message is not that the darkness was small; it is that light, once carried, multiplies. Survivors are not only those who endured - they are those who, having survived, choose to light the path for the next ones. And Vanesa walks that path - proving that the cycles can break and that purpose can be born even from the Ides.

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Today I’m honored and excited to have back on the show once again: Renowned and published author and writer, independent researcher, investigator and reporter, public speaker and educator, whistleblower to whistleblowers of ritual abuse, mind control and organized abuse, one of my personal inspirations, a man who has inspired many of you, and a man who was way before his time who has pioneered the survivor movement in ways that are just now starting to truly be recognized: Fritz Springmeier

A little bit about Fritz if you are new here or new to Fritz’s work, missed any of his previous episodes, or if you just need a quick recap:

In a world engineered to keep its deepest wounds invisible, one man chose to become the light that refused to be extinguished. Fritz is not merely a researcher or author. He is a living testament to the unbreakable human spirit - a man who, for more than three decades, armed himself with relentless courage, a Bible, and an unshakable conviction that truth is worth any price.

What began as years of solitary research into elite networks and secret societies in the early 1990’s, led him into the lives of ritual abuse and mind control survivors.Out of that discovery came the books that would define his legacy: The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave and its sequel, Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula. These works do not merely speculate. They present detailed accounts of programming scripts, internal system maps drawn by survivors, named programmers and locations, and practical pathways toward deprogramming and integration.

For many who have read them, the books function as a rescue beacon—offering language for experiences long dismissed, validation that their pain was real, and tools therapists, pastors, and survivors have used to begin dismantling what had been built to keep them fragmented. He also authored Bloodlines of the Illuminati and Be Wise as Serpents, expanding his examination of generational networks, secret societies, and the intersections of occult practice with institutional power.

What distinguishes Fritz is not only the documentation he’s written, but the posture of the man who produced it. He did not fight for applause. He has described fighting for the child who had no voice and for every survivor the world was conditioned to call crazy when they tried to speak.

Today the landscape has shifted. The conversation has expanded to include newer technologies - optogenetics, implants, AI systems - that Fritz has argued represent an evolution of the same control agenda he first mapped in human systems. Whether or not every detail of his framework is accepted, the central contribution remains: he made visible what had been designed to stay undetectable, and he handed people the keys.

In a fractured world that still prefers darkness to the light of hard testimony, Fritz stands as proof that one person anchored in conscience and armed with truth can shake the foundations of evil. Because of the work he carried through the fire, chains that were invisible have become visible for many. The undetectable has been detected. And an army of awakened survivors now stands on his shoulders and declares, in one voice, that they remember, that they are healing, that they are free, and that they will never be silent again.

The debt is not measured in applause. It is measured in lives reclaimed, in the simple, stubborn refusal to let the little girl in the cage or the boy forced to watch unimaginable horrors remain voiceless. Fritz did not do this work for fame. He did it because the truth was worth any price - and because love, he has a insisted, still wins. The light he carried is now carried by others. The battle he began continues. And for those still walking out of the darkness, his life and his books remain a reminder that the human spirit is unbreakable, that healing is possible, and that no system of control has the final word.

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"This is four videos in which I describe my experience growing up in and breaking free from an Mk Ultra child trafficking ring.

Some potentially triggering topics mentioned in this video include: Satanic ritual abuse, Mk Ultra/Monarch mind control, dissociative identities, child trafficking, rape/incest, snuff/murder, torture, drugs, hypnosis, cultural denial, isolation, duality, growing up with wealthy and well-educated parents in the so-called elite, Ivy League culture" - Katy / Dylan Groves

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Today I’m so honored to introduce you all to: Survivor, Attorney and business owner of Politi Law PLLC specializing in human trafficking cases, former Assistant District Attorney and Assistant City Attorney, the first intern at the Kansas Attorney General’s Office for the Human Trafficking Unit, avid reader, multilingual culturalist, nature and outdoor lover, movement doer and gym-goer, dog-mama, thrift store fashionista, travel aficionado, openly proud nerd, and fearless justice seeking warrioress: Laura Politi

A little bit about Laura and what you can expect to hear about on today’s episode:

Laura did not arrive at the fight against human trafficking by accident. She walked into it early, stayed when the work was hardest, and built a practice that treats civil court as a place where survivors can still be heard.

Her path began inside the institutions that first confront exploitation. She was the first intern in the Kansas Attorney General’s Office Human Trafficking Unit, the place where a commitment to ending exploitation took root and never loosened. From there she served as an Assistant District Attorney and an Assistant City Attorney, learning the discipline of prosecution: how evidence is built, how harm is named, and how systems either protect people or fail them. Nearly two decades of that advocacy now sit behind Politi Law PLLC, the Austin firm she founded to represent survivors of human trafficking across Texas.

What she does is personal injury and civil litigation with a precise target. She and her team pursue traffickers, facilitators, and the negligent third parties who made the harm possible - businesses, institutions, and financial actors that enabled exploitation through action or inaction. The work is trauma-informed at every stage: clients met with clarity, respect, and discretion; every person heard, informed, and prepared from the first consultation through resolution. She will not relent in pursuing the justice a survivor deserves.

She practices in English, Spanish, and Italian, so survivors and their families can enter the legal process in the language where they are most themselves. That is not a courtesy. It is part of the representation. A person who has been controlled should not have to fight for the words to describe what happened.

Politi Law is built around that single mission. Every case focuses on fighting human trafficking and securing justice. The approach is measured and strategic: listen first, explain the path clearly, then fight for outcomes that honor what clients have endured. Holding a trafficker answerable is only part of it. Holding the businesses and institutions that looked away, or profited, or failed to prevent the harm, is the rest.

On today’s podcast and on the series of podcasts that we will be doing together, Laura will be discussing some of the pitfalls trafficking survivors face when they try to get justice - and what can actually be done about them. The obstacles are real: systems that retraumatize, proceedings that fall short, and institutions slow to answer for their role. She brings to that conversation the same thing she brings to a courtroom: nearly two decades of survivor-centered advocacy, prosecutorial discipline turned toward civil accountability, and a refusal to treat exploitation as someone else’s problem.

This is what rigorous, humane lawyering looks like. And that is why her work matters beyond any single case. Every time a survivor is believed, prepared, and walked into a courtroom with a lawyer who will not look away, the silence that trafficking depends on gets a little thinner. Every time a trafficker, a facilitator, or a negligent institution is forced to answer, the cost of exploitation rises - and the message travels farther than one verdict.

Survivors deserve more than survival. They deserve advocates who treat their stories as sacred and their futures as worth fighting for. Laura has spent nearly two decades becoming that advocate - and she is still in the fight, still opening the door, still insisting that what was done to them will not be the last word.

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**This is our yearly viewing of an earlier episode I did with satanic ritual abuse survivor, Lisa Meister, where we discuss Halloween rituals, healing, and faith through Christ. This episode was originally aired in Season 2 on Episode 1.

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SRA victor Lisa Meister is back as our Guest of Honor for Episode 1 of Season 2! There are many reasons why Lisa was the perfect person to have on for the season premier and the fact that it goes live on Halloween this year and Lisa has been actively speaking out against Halloween on social media just solidified the decision! Born into the occult, Lisa began having recall of SRA at the age of 29 and her whole world as she knew it turned upside down, We told her story her first time on the show, and in this episode, we discuss what healing strategies and modalities helped her get to where she is today - successful entrepreneur, content creator, book author, public speaker, podcast host, wife, mother, and so much more.

This time of year can be especially hard for occult and SRA survivors as many of the biggest rituals of the year are centered around what we celebrate as 'Halloween'. Seeing all the horror paraphernalia - costumes, masks, jack-o-lanterns, horror movies, blood, gore - can be very traumatic because it is all mocking the torture that ritual abuse survivors endure on Halloween and all year round. Lisa talks to us about how Halloween is a celebration of the demonic and she makes a very valid plea asking society to stop celebrating it as well (I will no longer celebrate this day either!).

We also had a terrific discussion about the role God played in her healing and she gives us some insight second book, "You've Got the Wrong Guy" which is a fantastic resource for anyone who needs guidance in establishing or reestablishing their relationship with God.

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The Valley: Inside MK ULTRA explores one of the most disturbing questions raised by the CIA’s MK ULTRA program: whether ordinary people could be hypnotized, drugged, and psychologically broken into programmable assassins capable of carrying out acts - including murder - that they would never willingly do, and with no lasting memory of having been programmed.

MK ULTRA was a top-secret CIA project that conducted non-consensual experiments on American citizens and children, using LSD and other drugs, hypnosis, electroshock, and psychological trauma for mind control, intelligence gathering, and torture. Much of the work was based at Stanford University and the Stanford Research Institute (SRI). The film traces how CIA funding and technical assets developed for these programs helped seed the electronics and radar technologies that became Silicon Valley, and how those efforts intersected with Operation Paperclip - the post-World War II program that brought Nazi scientists and officers into the United States. Some of these individuals settled in the San Lorenzo Valley and Santa Cruz Mountains, near Stanford and key industrial sites such as the Hewlett-Packard mountain campus that overlooked Lockheed facilities.

At the heart of the film is Mark Victor’s firsthand account of surviving MK ULTRA as a young child. After a traumatic fall, he was subjected to repeated electroshock, EEG monitoring while children were forced to watch static on television, and deliberate fracturing into multiple personalities. Skills and programming were installed into an alter personality (evoking the Jason Bourne / Manchurian Candidate model), then tested for “bleed-over” into his conscious self. He describes the German researchers, the physical and psychological torment, the post-hypnotic suggestions, and the lifelong effects on him and his family. His testimony gives a direct, unfiltered look at what it meant to be treated as a human asset.

The documentary also examines the hypnosis and radar/electronics experiments (including Project 54) intended to induce deep states, control behavior, or even switch consciousness on and off; the deliberate use of vulnerable or injured brains for easier access; and the broader context of eugenics that linked pre-war American networks with the Nazis brought over under Paperclip. It addresses the CIA’s use of facades, the coining of “conspiracy theory” to dismiss critics, controlled leaks such as those surrounding Robert Ludlum’s work, Stansfield Turner’s admissions to Congress, the shredding of records, and the agency’s subsequent failure to locate or help the people it had victimized. Questions are also raised about figures such as Ted Kaczynski in light of Harvard-era MK ULTRA research.

Through Mark Victor’s courage in speaking out and the film’s detailed examination of the historical record, the documentary makes clear that MK ULTRA was not a closed chapter of the past but a program whose methods, personnel, and technological legacy continue to raise profound ethical and human questions.

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Today I’m honored to have back on the show once again: MONARCH, GATE, and organized child abuse survivor, overcomer and now whistleblower, artist, creative, dog and animal lover, consciousness explorer, podcaster and host of his own YouTube channel, freelance filmmaker, cinematographer, claymation effects and 3D art maker, and a courageous young man standing up for liberty and justice for all survivors, Adam Hamer

Here’s a little bit about Adam in case you’re new here, missed Adam’s first few episodes, or if you just need a recap!

In the desert light of Tucson, Arizona, in 1988, a boy was born into a world that would later try to claim pieces of him that were never theirs to take. Raised by a single mother who believed she was giving her son the gift of opportunity, Adam entered kindergarten in the 1990s and was pulled from ordinary class into the library in his elementary school. Officials called it the GATE program - Gifted and Talented Education - an enhanced curriculum of aptitude tests, Zener cards, and headphones in darkened side rooms. What followed was something far more complex: off-campus transports on special buses under the repeated guise of field trips which consisted of journeys to sterile labs, research facilities, military bases, hospital settings, and contractor offices. Large stretches of those years became what he has described as “inky black pools of nothingness”, punctuated by fragmented memories whose full weight would not arrive for nearly three decades.

He transferred schools trying to outrun something he did not yet have language for. By the time he was seven, he could no longer reliably say yes or no and a psychiatrist’s office entered the record. Childhood drawings, medical notes of over-sexualization and physical distress, and later official correspondence would eventually form the mosaic he carried into the light. For years he built a life on the far side of silence, then a single video linking trauma-based mind control to the GATE program cracked the dam. Memories returned not as a tidy narrative but as a tsunami. Justice stopped being a hope and became a mission.

Adam filed extensive Privacy Act requests across multiple agencies, seeking records of the programs he recalled. He is fighting to establish that every human being owns their DNA, genetic profile, and bioquantum field forever—no agency, corporation, or unacknowledged defense infrastructure may claim proprietary interest, tracking rights, or modification rights over biological and cognitive sovereignty without explicit, written, informed consent. His larger aim is a modern Church Committee-style reckoning with congressional oversight and the permanent protection of cognitive autonomy for every person on the planet. This case is about ensuring that children today and every future generation retain absolute sovereign ownership over their flesh, blood, mind, and spirit.

In Adam, we see the best of the American spirit: resilience forged in adversity, patriotism rooted in the Constitution, and an unrelenting demand that government serve the people rather than itself. His legacy is already taking shape - not in the shadows of the unacknowledged, but in the bright light of accountability, neuro rights, and the simple revolutionary declaration that the human being is sovereign, the body is not federal property, and the mind is not a battle space. And Adam is ensuring the world never forgets.

He shows us that the deepest wounds can become the source of the strongest light. His work reminds every survivor that they are not broken, not disposable, and not alone. The darkness that once swallowed years of his life has been met by a voice that refuses to be extinguished. And in that refusal lives a promise: that one person’s unyielding courage can awaken many, that the human mind and body belong to no one but the person who inhabits them, and that the future is still ours to claim.

His message is clear and concise: we own ourselves. We will not be silenced. And together, we will ensure that no child is ever forced down the path he walked. This is the revolution of the sovereign soul, and Adam is its unflinching, inspiring voice.

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Today I’m so honored to introduce you all to: Independent researcher, journalist and reporter on ritual abuse crimes within the LDS Church, Utah and beyond, podcaster and host of his own podcast, Executive Director of Relentless Hope, loving husband and father, and a man risking it all to expose and stop the systemic coverup of crimes against children and humanity: Goel

A little bit about Goel and some topics you can expect to hear about on today’s podcast:

Some people study the dark so they can name it. Goel walked into it so the people still living inside it would not have to stand there alone.

He is the independent researcher and reporter behind Investigations in Ritual Abuse including the archive at investigationsinritualabuse.com and his long-form work on Substack at 1830goel.substack.com. His stated mission is the unfiltered truth, with the David Lee Hamblin case at the center. Police reports, court filings, licensing records, Homeland Security materials, victim statements, and Gordon Bowen documents sit there not as rumor, but as a file anyone can read. He does not ask anyone to take his word for it - he asks them to read the file.

What he has built was never meant to make him famous. It was meant to make the truth harder to lose. Survivors had already told their stories to the people who were supposed to protect them. Too often those stories were set aside because the witnesses were wounded, sounded scrambled, or were considered to be inconvenient. Goel’s answer has been the opposite of that cowardice. He treats the wound as evidence of the harm, not as a reason to look away. He reads and listens with eyes to see and ears to hear until the shock burns off, he keeps the receipts, he puts the record where anyone can find it, and then stands in front of it and refuses to flinch. Relentless Hope, the nonprofit where he serves as Executive Director, turns that same refusal into something practical: offering counseling for survivors of sex trafficking and ritual abuse fully paid for - not merely promised.

Goel has been threatened, sued, accused of being controlled opposition, and nearly silenced by laws that punish the naming of a victim more readily than they punish the people who harmed the victim. None of it bought him. He says as much, with the dry humor of a man who knows the work he does will never pay like spectacle would. His price has never been met because the work was never for sale. The institutions had the binder and he built the archive - and that is a form of courage that does not photograph well and does not expire.

Today he will do what he has done for years in his investigations. He will put David Leavitt, David Hamblin, and Gordon Bowen back on the table, not as conspiracy and not as panic, but as names that appear in victim statements, police reports, depositions, and a prosecution that was allowed to collapse. The institutions had the binder and Goel built the archive. The survivors had already told the truth and he made sure the truth still had an address.

And despite everything he’s went through, he still stands. Not unbroken - but unbowed in the only way that counts. Pain did not make him look away, threats did not rename the truth, and the silence of the powerful never became his silence. For every survivor who was told they were too damaged to be believed, there stands a man who will not look away, a record that will not vanish, and a voice that still arrives no matter how devastating the story.

Goel left a light on in a room the world had agreed to forget, and he is still standing in the doorway, so that the next survivor who finds the courage to speak will not find the dark empty. This is how the lost are found, how the buried are lifted, and how the long night finally begins to end.

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His death caused controversy among some members of the conspiracy theory community which made him the target of reports from BBC News and other news outlets. Max believed in a variety of paranormal events, including that he had been altered as a child to become a super soldier. Max's credibility as a conspiracy theorist has been doubted by other members of the conspiracy theory community, including Adam Borowski from Radio Paranormalium, a Polish independent journalist who stated "He [Max] seemed to collect the research of other people and present it as his own" and that Max had never proven having any abilities related to his claim of being made a super soldier at birth.

On 16 July 2016 Spiers died on the sofa at a friend's house in Warsaw, Poland. According to the Polish prosecutor handling the case, Max's partner called an ambulance. A doctor attended the scene but was unable to revive Max. He did not take steps to inform police about the incident. Information regarding Spiers' death did not reach the prosecutor's office until 30 August 2016, which was after Max's body had been handed over to British authorities. Due to this fact Polish authorities could not conduct an autopsy.

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Today I’m honored to introduce you all to: Ritual abuse, mind control and organized abuse survivor and overcomer, David Hamblin and LDS church abuse whistleblower, devoted and loving wife to her soulmate Troy, loving mother, nature, animal and natural world lover, fresh air breather, music and art consumer and creator, foodie, thoughtful conversation haver, and one of my personal heroes and inspirations: Kate Talley

A little bit about Kate and what you can expect to hear about in today’s conversation:
Kate did not ask to become a witness to the darkest corners of human cruelty. She was born into it. Raised in an active LDS family in Utah, she carried the kind of Mormon heritage that others would call royalty. On the surface she was the little girl doing everything a child in Utah County was supposed to do. Beneath that surface, beginning with her earliest memories, she was taken by her grandfather and his circle of respected men—pharmacists, business owners, doctors, dentists, civic leaders—into rituals that mocked the very church they publicly served. They inverted baptisms, blessings, sacrament, and sealings, calling on Lucifer instead of Christ. It happened in neighborhoods that looked like any other affluent Utah town, tt happened in LDS buildings after hours, and it happened around holidays and whenever her grandfather could isolate her.

When she was eleven, after a particularly brutal assault on her birthday, she looked at the man - her grandfather - who had just violated her and said she hated him and hoped he would die. Two weeks later he dropped dead of a heart attack while changing a light bulb. Shortly afterward an aunt spoke out about incest. Kate spoke out too. Others in the family and neighborhood followed. What should have been the beginning of justice became the beginning of a different kind of wound: victim-shaming from a BYU-affiliated counselor, bishops, church leaders, and, later, a high-ranking official’s son who appeared at her door after she mentioned ritual abuse to a bishop - uninvited, persistent, walking into her home as if to deliver a message that they knew she was talking.

In 2008 or 2009, desperate for anyone who would not flinch at ritual abuse, she and her then-husband were introduced to David Hamblin’s “healing circles.” Hamlin presented himself as a former psychologist who no longer needed a license or insurance because he was too spiritually advanced, too generous. At first the circles felt like relief: a place where the unspeakable could be spoken without immediate shock. Then the grooming began. He drove wedges between couples. He elevated Kate’s husband as spiritually superior and used that pedestal to pressure her into repeating her childhood traumas as “therapy.” After Hamlin’s 2012 arrest the circle fractured, but he doubled down on those whose names matched his own daughters’.

Kate has spoken out not only for herself but for her cousin Sherry, who is no longer here, and for the many others in her old neighborhood lost to suicide, addiction, and early death. She has spoken because she watched Katie Hamblin stand alone in court for two years, tall and unflinching, when Kate herself could not yet stand. Now she stands so that others can.
Kate is not merely a survivor. She is a whistleblower who has refused the lifelong command to be quiet. She has taken the very programming designed to fracture her and turned it into testimony. She has walked out of Plato’s cave, seen the ritualistic underbelly that so many in Utah still insist cannot exist, and come back to tell the people still chained to the wall what she saw. She does it knowing the cost: lawsuits, shadowbans, disbelief, and the raw emotional labor of repeating the worst days of her life so that families might finally learn to believe children, call the authorities, and stop handling these crimes in private.

That is the measure of Kate: a woman who was taken into the dark as a child, who was failed by counselors, bishops, and a man who posed as a healer, and who nevertheless chose to become light. She speaks so the next little girl or boy in Utah, the LDS Church or anywhere else, might never have to carry the same silence. She speaks so the voiceless can still be heard, and she speaks so the living can finally be free.

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Today I’m so honored to have back on the show for our SEASON 7 OPENER(!!): MK ULTRA, MONARCH, human experimentation, dark lab, secret space program and human hybrid chimera survivor, overcomer, and whistleblower, published writer and author, and an incredible woman stepping forward to provide the reasons and the bigger picture; the War for Cosmic control: Anna Starfire

A little bit about Anna if you’re new here, missed her last two incredible episodes or need a little recap:

In the vast, hidden architecture of the twentieth century - where classified programs, wartime scientists, and cosmic ambition collided - one woman’s testimony burns with a rare intensity. Anna, known to CIA handlers as MONARCH 47 or MK-47, recounts a life that began not in ordinary infancy but in the experimental machinery of mind control, genetic modification, and secret space research. Born around 1956 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (her official certificate lists a later date), she describes herself as a human hybrid chimera, a product of programs that fused human tissue with reverse-engineered technologies, satellite-linked implants, and the lingering expertise of Nazi physicians brought to America under Operation Paperclip.

Her mother, a displaced Eastern European translator working on Paperclip documents near the base and once a titled princess in her homeland, and her father, a German aerospace engineer already supporting another family, could not raise her. Donated or placed into the system as an orphan, she entered the shadowy corridors of military labs as a newborn. Surgical modification began within months: brain implants, a blue aluminum halo tracking device visible in early Polaroids, metallic fixtures for measuring electrical resistance during electroshock, and later transponders that linked her nervous system to orbiting satellites. Scientists and others from former SS medical teams, along with Sidney Gottlieb collecting growth data, performed operations intended to prepare children for long-duration space travel. She was assigned to a live-aboard “space blimp” program in low Earth orbit, where researchers studied delayed growth, hibernation protocols, and development in reduced gravity. Her extended time off-Earth, she says, slowed her physical maturation so that, biologically older, she still appeared toddler-like when returned to Earth’s gravity.

After President Kennedy’s assassination in 1963, the space-blimp program was dismantled amid panic over hidden projects. CIA Director John McCone assigned her a new name and birth date. She was chemically mind-erased and reprogrammed. Placed with sponsor families and later adopted, she entered government-sponsored medical research placements.

What distinguishes Anna is not the catalog of procedures inflicted upon her, but the sovereign act of turning the machinery of captivity into instruments of revelation. She learned to use the very implants meant to control her. That defiance, she says, was a declaration that no protocol could extinguish the spark of human will. Since 2013 she has published the evidence in three books that form a living archive: The Hybrid Project, Starfire Disclosure, and MK Ultra Dark Labs

Today she stands as an advocate whose courage has become a usable map. She tells other survivors that the place they occupy today is not the place they will occupy next year, that small daily acts of kindness toward oneself are strategy rather than luxury, and that silence has never been the price of survival.

Anna is the walking record the elite could not fully erase. In her refusal to disappear she offers something rarer than outrage: a demonstration that even a child redesigned for someone else’s war can still choose to tell the truth, to document, to heal, and to light the way for others. Her voice is an anthem of triumph - a hybrid of endurance and hope capable of bridging worlds and reclaiming the stars. She is a cosmic warrior of truth, a guardian of the human spirit, and an eternal flame guiding survivors toward freedom and the infinite possibilities beyond the laboratories that once claimed her. In her story we do not find despair. We find an invitation to rise, to question, and to honor the extraordinary resilience that dwells within us all.

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Spiers talks about his difficult early life and triggers, describing a birth split between a “high vibrational” mother and a “low vibrational” father. He identifies as a fallen male fire dragon from Draco and links coats of arms to warring ET kingdoms, DNA spirals, polarity, and what he calls a 3D soul loop. The conversation also covers Broadstairs and Canterbury symbolism, bloodline claims (including the Black Prince, Percy, Stewart, and Diana lines), and his view that human male and female are being collapsed into an androgynous drone.

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Today I’m honored to have back on the show once again: MONARCH, GATE, and organized child abuse survivor, overcomer and now whistleblower, artist, creative, dog and animal lover, consciousness explorer, investigative researcher, freelance filmmaker, cinematographer, claymation effects and 3D art maker, and a courageous young man standing up for liberty and justice for all survivors, Adam Hamer

A little bit about Adam in case you’re new here, missed Adam’s last episode where we debuted his testimony and federal court case, or just need a recap!

Adam was born in 1988 in Tucson, Arizona, and raised by a single mother who believed she was giving her son a gift. In the public schools of the 1990s, that gift had a name: GATE - Gifted and Talented Education. Officials described it as enhanced curriculum. But what Adam would later described was something else: a childhood whose middle years dissolved into what he has called “inky black pools of nothingness,” broken only by fragments whose meaning would not arrive for nearly three decades.That is the beginning of his story. The rest is what he refused to let the beginning become.

He was screened in kindergarten with things like aptitude tests, headphones, darkened rooms, cards, isolation from the other children. He transferred schools trying to outrun something he did not yet have language for and that his mother sensed was wrong. By seven he could no longer answer yes or no. A psychiatrist’s office entered the record. Medical notes from childhood would later sit beside drawings that, in the light of recovered memory, no longer looked like play.

For years he built a life on the other side of silence. Then a single video connecting trauma-based mind control to the GATE program unlocked what had been locked. The connections formed. Justice stopped being a hope and became a mission. Adam remembered.

He did not wait for permission to treat his memories as real. He filed extensive first-party Privacy Act requests across agencies, asking for records of programs he believed had used him as a child. What came back - delays, “unusual circumstances,” national-security language, rephrased questions, files that never arrived - did not silence him. It hardened his resolve. That is the synopsis. The rest is the man he became.

He has said he is not fighting for vengeance. He is fighting so that no child is funneled into a program under false pretenses, so that consent is sacred, so that the body is not treated as federal property and the mind is not treated as a battlespace.

That stance is what makes him more than a witness. He is a survivor advocate who treats other people’s silence as a problem he is willing to spend his life solving. He tells other survivors that one voice, armed with persistence, can force entrenched systems to answer. He tells the public that cognitive liberty is not a fringe concern - that neural data, biometric data, and the interior life of a person must be protected by law before they are monetized, mapped, or weaponized.

In him there is something stubbornly American, not as a slogan but as a demand: that the government exists to answer to people, not to experiment on them in the dark and classify the receipts. He has called for the kind of oversight last seen in the Church Committee era - sunlight, not blank checks. He has made a private catastrophe into a public principle.That principle is simple and revolutionary: this body is mine. This mind is mine. You do not get to write the rest of the story without my consent.

Adam is not asking the world to pity him. He is asking it to decide. He stands as a voice for the voiceless, a warrior of light who turned personal trauma into a universal shield, a humanitarian who believes prevention is the only victory that matters. He reminds us that one person, refusing erasure, can plant a flag of absolute ownership in contested territory - and that the next generation should never have to invent that sentence for themselves. And in doing so, he hands others the thing that was taken from him first: the right to own their own story, and the courage to demand that the future be different from the past.

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Today I’m so honored to have back on the show once again: Cult and cult abuse survivor, overcomer and whistleblower, Vice President of the non-profit Tucson Pops Orchestra, freelance social media photographer, future cosmetology school graduate, Penn State University alum, former Digital Content Creator for KGUN 9, artist, creative, and an incredible hero who has stepped up to break the silence on cult abuse and to educate on how victims can take steps to get out: Caleb Fernandez

A little bit about Caleb if you’re new here, if you missed his first two episodes, or if you just need a little refresher:

Caleb was born into a world already woven with invisible chains. Raised in Southern California amid the sprawling influence of Calvary Chapel, he entered life entangled in what he describes as multi-generational cult dynamics. Church leaders were not distant figures but active presences in his earliest years. As a small child he endured ritualized and psychosexual cult abuse, the machinery of mind control, and experiences he later recognized as labor trafficking disguised as mission trips and service. He speaks of unclean spirits operating within Calvary Chapel and carries the unshakable conviction that the organization functions as a cult whose patterns of control, isolation, financial pressure, gossip framed as prayer chains, and suppression of questions must be named so that others can break free.

Even then, something inside Caleb refused to go dark. From his earliest school years, Caleb poured himself into musical theater. On stage he discovered a language louder than fear - performance, music, and collective creation that let him breathe when his environment felt suffocating. That same creative current carried him through high school questions that made adults uncomfortable, through college at Penn State University where he earned a bachelor’s degree in advertising and public relations while secretly studying Jewish history and ancient civilizations to understand the faith he had been handed, and onward to New York City. There he mastered production assistance, photography, and art direction. He worked as a digital content creator for KGUN9, modeled, and honed skills in still and moving images, retouching, scripting, editing, event planning, and brand representation. He also lived with epilepsy and later learned he is autistic - realities that had been met in childhood with prayer instead of professional care.

The journey toward freedom began in his early twenties and reached its culmination in 2025 when, at 33, he finally escaped the cult. Every step has been an act of radical courage. He is now vice president of the nonprofit Tucson Pops Orchestra, where music becomes medicine and community becomes sanctuary. He continues as a freelance social media photographer and strategic digital creative. Cosmetology school waits on the horizon, another chapter in a life that keeps expanding.

Caleb is more than a survivor. He is a living symphony of resilience - a man who gathered the shattered notes of his past and composed a future of purpose, artistry, and fierce advocacy. As a first-time whistleblower he has given voice to the silenced, offering practical, life-saving guidance for anyone still trapped. He reminds every person who has ever felt controlled, gaslit, or broken that the light inside them is stronger than any organization, any abuse, any chain. From unimaginable darkness he has risen not to merely to endure but to sing, to create, to lead, and to show others the way out.

Yet the true wonder of Caleb’s story is only beginning. The same hands once bound by control now conduct healing. The same spirit once told to stay silent now speaks with a clarity that plants seeds of awakening in hearts still living in fear. Every word of testimony he offers becomes a lantern held high for those still searching for the exit. In him we see the promise that no chain is unbreakable, no darkness final, no voice truly lost. What was once meant to erase him has instead become the very bridge others now walk across toward their own healing. Caleb stands as living testimony that even the longest night can end in a sunrise no one expected - and that one courageous soul is enough to light the way for thousands more.

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Max Spiers returns to the Bases Project with this first installment recorded at the MJM studio in Wiltshire. On this occasion, he meets with Miles Johnston, founder of the Bases Project, to discuss the topic entitled “The Attack on the Human Heart”.

This content now becomes part of the scope of British Post Disclosure, especially after the official recognition by the British authorities of the existence of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), as well as the influence of non-human entities — or those originating from outside our world — on systems of power.

According to Spiers, one of the main aspects of this control involves the suppression of human creativity and the deliberate destabilization of traditionally respected innovations. In this context, even the British monarchy is portrayed as a possible scapegoat, becoming, like many other structures, protected from hidden interests. As John Urwin has observed, such figures should be considered to belong to the “Second Degree” of relevance within this position of control.

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Today I’m so honored to introduce you all to: Ritual abuse, mind control and organized abuse survivor, overcomer and whistleblower, published writer and author, TikTok content creator, dancer, artist, and creative, civil engineer with a passion for natural building, haircut wizard, and declutter and deprogramming warrior: Armaan Keval Malde

A little bit about Armaan and what you can expect to hear about on today’s episode:

Armaan comes from the Visa Ohshwal community, a lineage he traces from India through Kenya back toward Persia. Both of his parents share that background as well. He believes multi-generational programming ran through the family and the wider group, and that schools, hospitals, and businesses built by relatives may have doubled as covers. He says the official story of his birth was a lie: he was told July 4, 1996, but his memories place his origin around January 1, 1993, in an Iranian lab, with years shuttled between there and a facility in Switzerland, where a twin or clone was also created. He was then moved through Africa into Kenya and on to the United States; while his twin was sent separately to New York.

From ages three to six he lived underground: programmed, surgically altered, gender-inverted, and prepared to live as a female. At age six he was placed with his adoptive family looking so malnourished he looked three years old. From then on he and the twin were rotated - one living the visible life, the other taken below. Every school, he says, sat above hidden rooms and tunnels. Pregnancies began in childhood. His body later swelled in ways that did not match starvation; and he attributes this to implanted filler. The implanted uterus began rejecting him long before he had language for any of it.

In 2017 something in him chose life before he even understood the full map. The dissociated memories of childhood did not return until 2022–2023, after homelessness ended and he finally had a door he could lock. Safety itself became holy.

In 2019, before he even had the words “ritual abuse,” visualization brought him to what he calls Stage 1 DID integration. That alone is astonishing: he began putting a shattered mind back together while still standing inside the lie. He now lives in Stage 2 integration—one functioning person, with remaining parts mostly holding memory. He believes Stage 3 is near: residual memory cleared, a life that cannot be dismantled again, pain met without leaving the body. For most of his years he wanted the story to end. What kept him here was not mere endurance. It was vocation. If he could survive this, and then share the methods with other survivors, then they would not have to invent survival from nothing. He is certain that is why he is alive. He believes complete healing is possible - not as a slogan, but as a promise he has already begun to keep in his own nervous system.

That promise now shapes everything he builds. On TikTok as DeprogramSRA69 he does not perform pain for spectacle. He teaches. He shares protocols for DID, programming, extreme grief, and deliverance, along with the workbook Deprogram Yourself. He has already proven that a person with almost no support can still become a source of support.

But as you witness him, do not mistake his gentleness for smallness. This is a man who crawled out of rooms designed to erase him and then asked, Who else is still down there? His life is the answer he gives to the dark: you do not get the last word. To other survivors his message is a vow, not a platitude. You can do more of the healing yourself than you were ever allowed to believe. You are more capable than the people who broke you wanted you to know.

The laboratories tried to write his ending before he could speak. Armaan answered with a life so stubbornly luminous that it became an invitation. Come back. You are not too shattered. You are not too late. The dark was real. The return is realer. If one person can walk out carrying both the wound and the medicine, then none of us have to stay buried. He is still writing. And the ending he is writing now is not only his. It is ours - if we are brave enough to believe that healing, fully and finally, is possible.

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Today I’m so honored to introduce you all to: Outspoken whistleblower and public witness raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, online personality and content creator, podcast host and podcaster, independent researcher and reporter, theological topic and historical Mormon doctrine debater, and a fierce force to be reckoned with in exposing systemic and institutional ritual abuse: Latter-Day Chad

A little bit about our guest and the themes you can expect to hear about on today’s show:

Raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Chad found Sunday meetings uninteresting as a teenager and stopped attending at 14 once he could choose. That changed around age 22. Synchronicities he could not explain, dreams that came true—including one of a classmate who died exactly as foreseen less than two weeks later—and a growing fascination with early Mormon teachings pulled him back. He began studying Joseph Smith’s words, the Book of Mormon’s warnings about secret combinations, and the occult beliefs of elites. What started as Instagram memes under the name Latter-Day Chad evolved into a fearless public witness.

He describes himself as a believing Mormon who is also “very controversial.” He loves the Book of Mormon’s cosmology yet refuses to stay silent when its own prophecies about infiltration and corruption appear to be unfolding. He points to the “LDS Church of Satan,” a group described in victim statements as using Mormon theology while serving Lucifer, pretending to be ordinary members while seeking power in Utah government and the Church. Central figures in the story he has documented include advertising executive Gordon Bowen - called by some the “Mormon Epstein” - former therapist David Hamblin, and former Utah prosecutor David Levitt. Hamblin’s daughters alleged ritual abuse, trafficking to powerful people, and a role for Bowen as “the Punisher.” An on-tape conversation captured Hamblin discussing personality-splitting methods consistent with trauma-based mind control. Court documents from Bowen’s divorce include journal entries describing voices, ritual themes, and writings he acknowledged but claimed not to remember. The investigation known as Operation See No Evil was shut down despite recorded admissions and agents who believed the case had high likelihood of guilt. Utah media stayed quiet. Church-connected lawyers and officials closed ranks.

Chad did not treat this as abstract history. He went to the Church Office Building with questions about Bowen’s role in the Salt Lake Temple open house and his friendships with apostles. Security trespassed him and the video recording went viral. Influencers who once welcomed his apologetic content turned on him, spreading rumors and pressuring platforms. His temple recommend was revoked after he spoke about ritual abuse. He was informed a membership council was coming and that excommunication was likely because he would not recant. He has said he is willing to “fall on that sword” because he believes the Lord asked him to expose what the scriptures call secret combinations.

The personal cost has been high. Yet Chad frames his work as advocacy for survivors whose stories were buried by institutional self-protection. He has independently verified details through people who know victims and the accused. He ends many messages the same way: expose the hidden works of darkness, scatter the watchmen who fell asleep, and pray with the conviction that what is asked in faith will happen.

Latter-Day Chad is not a polished institution man. He is a young believer who grew tired of fairy-tale religion and decided the scriptures meant what they said. He has been trespassed, tracked, slandered, and threatened with expulsion from the very community whose founding texts he is trying to honor. In doing so he has given a voice to survivors whose cases never reached a courtroom and has forced a conversation many would rather bury. Whether one accepts every connection he draws or not, his willingness to stand in the open when others chose silence is rare. He has asked people across faith lines to set theology aside long enough to look at the evidence and demand accountability. In an age of institutional insulation, that kind of stubborn, scripture-rooted courage is itself a form of light. He continues the work because, in his words, the day of vengeance begins at the Lord’s house - and someone has to be willing to say so out loud.

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Recorded at the 2nd International Bases Conference (2015), this raw, unusually long session features Max Spiers and Sarah Adams in a rare public double feature: part visionary talk, part film decoding, part unfiltered Q&A. What starts with mysterious paintings on stage quickly opens into out-of-body travel, high-vibrational beings, bloodlines, energy harvesting, and a blunt challenge to take your power back before the cycle repeats.

Sarah describes a protective presence that followed her into the venue — then appeared painted everywhere she looked. She speaks of highly evolved, featureless energetic beings (not the Grays), starseed guidance, off-planet memory, and a warning she says she’s carried for years: civilizations fall when they advance technology in 3D and abandon the inner world. One painting becomes a map: go inward. Another becomes a symbol of humanity in ruin — with one small, sparkling flower of consciousness still able to grow.

Then they use cinema as code. A clip from The Island is treated as a near-perfect allegory: clones in a dome, farmed and lied to with lotteries and “vacations,” never told there’s an outside world. From there the talk moves into vibrational layers, frequency “domes,” encoded fairy tales, Saturn and time-loop imagery, hybrid DNA, planetary wars, Earth as the heart of this corner of the universe, and the moon as a subconscious drain. Max frames the conflict as a war for the human heart. Sarah frames the way out as becoming the pilot of your own body, emotions, and will.

The audience doesn’t stay quiet. Questions hit chemtrails, remote viewing and out-of-body “espionage,” physical portals, black goo, Rh-negative blood, inner Earth, clone centers, bloodline definitions, a child’s recurring dream of gray robot-like beings, and the then-breaking James Casbolt / MK-Ultra controversy. The answers are uneven, personal, and often confrontational — including disagreements with other public figures and a closing argument that some of what gets called “truth community” is itself programmed conflict.

This is not a polished TED talk. It’s 2015 disclosure culture in the room: paintings as portals, movies as manuals, emotion as language, and a repeated claim that humanity is at a window — evolve, reclaim sovereignty, or recycle the same war.

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Today I’m honored to have back on the show once again - two incredible warriors for truth, exposure, and healing for all survivors - especially in their home of Israel: CEO of Bereshit Magazine, Independent journalist and researcher, and podcast host, Daniel Sharon, and ritual abuse survivor and advocate, social worker and lecturer, Yael Ariel

A little bit about Daniel, Yael and their journey’s together:

In the ancient, storied heart of Jerusalem, where the weight of history presses against the soul of every inhabitant, a young man named Daniel Sharon came of age amid the vibrant pulse of a city that has witnessed empires rise and fall. Now in his 30’s, Daniel once stood as an officer in the IDF’s elite tank unit, navigating the chaos and moral quagmire of conflict in Gaza a decade ago. The raw human cost of war awakened something profound within him - an unshakable disillusionment that compelled him to step away from military service and toward a path of deeper introspection and purpose.

Then came the global upheaval of COVID, a catalyst that stripped away illusions and unveiled what he describes as the horrific truths embedded in the systems governing our world. Guided by synchronicities and inspired by the bold voices of truth-seekers, Daniel discovered his calling as CEO of Bereshit - Hebrew for Genesis - a magazine born as a defiant answer to the fear-driven narratives flooding mainstream media. In a landscape choked by silence and control, Bereshit rose as a beacon for truth, free speech, and human rights. In 2023, Daniel shattered barriers by publishing Israel’s first major article on ritual abuse, a courageous act that ignited both fierce controversy and life-changing connection.

It was in this fearless pursuit that Daniel’s path crossed with Yael, a fierce social worker, lecturer, and survivor of ritual abuse whose own journey radiates extraordinary resilience. Having endured unimaginable trauma that fractured her early life, Yael transformed her pain into profound purpose. She co-produced two groundbreaking conferences dedicated to healing complex trauma, becoming a sought-after lecturer on dissociation and complex PTSD, her voice ringing with clarity, compassion, and unyielding strength. Since 2022, she has fearlessly shared her story on Facebook—one of the few ritual abuse survivors in Israel bold enough to speak publicly. Her courage has drawn dozens of others from the shadows, forging a growing network of survivors united in their mission to raise awareness and foster healing.

Together, Daniel and Yael have become an unstoppable force of light against darkness. Their collaboration gave birth to a pioneering Hebrew-language website dedicated to exposing and understanding ritual abuse - a vital resource that, alongside Daniel’s groundbreaking Bereshit article and a pivotal investigative piece, ignited a national conversation long suppressed by fear and denial. Rooted in shared conviction, deep friendship and love, their partnership blends Daniel’s strategic vision and journalistic precision with Yael’s empathetic advocacy and lived wisdom. Through Bereshit, Daniel’s new podcast, Yael’s advocacy for fellow survivors, and their relentless activism, they are rewriting Israel’s narrative: replacing fear with truth, silence with solidarity, and trauma with hope.

🔗RECOMMENDED RESOURCES:
-The Bottom of the darkness:
https://www.israelhayom.co.il/magazine/shishabat/article/17668103
-Report on Knesset committees:
https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-
news/local/976333/
-Knesset Research and Information Center Report:
https://fs.knesset.gov.il/globaldocs/MMM/a1d03375-8d40-f011-a85f-
005056aa9911/2_a1d03375-8d40-f011-a85f-005056aa9911_11_21268.pdf
-Video of Shoshi in the campaign:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Cg7GBe3sP/
-Video of Rabbi Medan (turn on English subtitles):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eskX7H-URns;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZARUDJamQk;
-Article in Shomrim:
https://www.shomrim.news/hebrew/ritual-abuses-in-israel
-Article in Shomrim 2:
https://www.shomrim.news/hebrew/pedophilia-law-
enforcement-failure
-Article on psychologists' website:
https://www.betipulnet.co.il/particles/background_assessment_and_treatment_of_organized_ritual_sexual_abuse
-Wikipedia article:
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%9C%D7%95%
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-Promo for Zman Emet investigation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGJlMASOQzM
-Announcement by Gush Etzion:
https://www.srugim.co.il/1305337-%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A9-%D7%A2%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%91%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%98%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA

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Today I’m so honored to have back on the show for a third time: MK ULTRA, satanic ritual abuse, and organized abuse survivor, overcomer and whistleblower, loving mother, musician, writer, independent researcher of past and present history, and a woman on a mission to raise awareness about trauma-based mind control programs that have been hidden in the dark and to help others heal from the unimaginable: Noaidi

A little bit about Noaidi if you missed her incredible first two episodes, if you’re new here, or if you just need a quick recap:

Born in Humble, Texas, into a family whose public story was one of Mormon pioneer heritage and military service, she entered the world already carrying secrets older than her own memories. Her maternal grandfather proudly traced the line to some of the earliest settlers of Utah. Beneath that lineage ran generations of control, exploitation, and hidden operations that stretched across Air Force bases, hospitals, underground facilities, and intelligence programs. On her father’s side, family features and ancestral threads pointed toward the Sámi people of northern Norway an ancient indigenous people long targeted for their shamanic gifts, psychic capacities, and ability to travel beyond the body. From before her first breath she was marked. Childhood was not innocence. It was a battlefield.

She was taken to Air Force hospitals, subjected to procedures that fractured consciousness, induced near-death states, and trained as both a theta psychic asset and a beta sex slave. Rituals, family “vacations,” Disney programming, and constant medical interventions reinforced the inner and outer architecture. Missing months of school, body memories of wires and machines, out-of-body perspectives of experiments designed to open portals - these were the hidden curriculum. At home the culture of the network was simply life. Yet even inside that engineered darkness a light refused to go out.

At eight years old, against her family’s dismay, she felt an unrelenting pull toward truth and became born again. She devoured Scripture through her teenage years. At twenty-one, pregnant with her first child, she entered a contemplative Christian church and spent thirteen years in disciplined self-observation, meditation, and the patient work of gathering fragmented parts of herself into greater wholeness. That inner foundation became her sanctuary. It taught her that consciousness itself cannot be destroyed. What had been forged for control could be reclaimed for liberation.

Then, at thirty-four, the dam broke. Long-repressed memories returned in a torrent after the natural birth of her fifth child - vivid, physical, and undeniable. She found the courage to speak. Her mother took her to an Austin therapist who specialized in ritual-abuse and mind-control survivors, the first safe space where truth was allowed to breathe. The inquiry that followed revealed she had been used as a breeder. Six of her seven beautiful children were forcibly taken. Her own family ostracized her, discredited her, and worked to silence the testimony she carried. Most people would have been destroyed, but Noaidi rose.

She turned the very tools of her programming into instruments of freedom. People felt seen, held, and transformed in her presence. She began offering spiritual healing and prayer. Today she stands as a whistleblower, survivor advocate, and voice for the voiceless. Ostracized, targeted, and forced to relocate with her youngest daughter for safety, she continues to speak. She shares her story so that others will know they are not alone, so that the hidden programs can no longer operate in complete darkness, and so that the cycle that ran through her family for generations can finally end with her.

Noaidi did not simply outlast the programs designed to own her; she metabolized them. The same capacities they trained for obedience and extraction she now wields as instruments of remembrance and repair. She is the woman who took the weapons meant to break her and forged them into tools of awakening. She is the mother who prayed that the abuse would end with her and then lived that prayer at an enormous cost. She is the overcomer who still sings, still writes, still researches, still heals, and still stands taller. She is a divine walking miracle. And the light she carries is no longer hidden.

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