The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Making friends as an adult isn't easy. And sometimes, the people we consider friends aren't the ones we can actually count on. In this episode, I'm joined by organizational psychologist and bestselling author Adam Grant to talk about the science of human connection, why friendships change as we get older, and what it really takes to build meaningful relationships. We discuss the three types of friends everyone needs, why you don't have to talk every day to stay close, and how having difficult conversations can actually strengthen your relationships. Adam also shares practical ways to move past small talk, connect with people on a deeper level, and approach conflict with honesty instead of fear.

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What do you do when someone criticizes you, underestimates you, or makes you question your worth?

In this episode, I sit down with Grammy Award-winning artist Sheryl Crow to talk about handling criticism, letting go of other people's opinions, and finding peace when life doesn't go as planned.

Sheryl shares the advice that changed how she responds to negativity, what Dolly Parton taught her about confidence and kindness, and why sometimes the most powerful response is no response at all.

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There’s no expiration date on your purpose, and sometimes the best things in life happen when you least expect them.

In this episode, I sit down with comedian and actress Leanne Morgan for a conversation about marriage, motherhood, chasing your dreams, and finding success later in life. Leanne shares how she spent over 20 years pursuing a career in comedy, the moment she almost gave up, and how everything changed when she finally found her audience.

We also talk about navigating marriage when you and your spouse communicate differently, learning to ask for what you need, and the guilt that comes with pursuing your own dreams while raising a family.

Leanne is as funny as she is genuine, and her story is a reminder that you don't have to have everything figured out right now. Sometimes the most important thing you can do is keep showing up, stay true to who you are, and trust that your time will come.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.

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What if the life you’re rushing through right now is the life you’ll one day wish you could get back? Sahil Bloom joins me to talk about our complicated relationship with time—and what happens when we’re so focused on what’s next that we miss what’s right in front of us. We talk about success, relationships, breaking our addiction to our phones, making better decisions with our time, and learning to appreciate the season of life we’re actually in. If you’ve ever felt too busy, distracted, or like life is moving faster than you can keep up with, this conversation is for you.

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What happens when your sister is also your best friend and business partner?

In this episode, I sit down with Erin and Sara Foster, better known as The Foster Sisters, for an honest conversation about family dynamics, sibling arguments, people-pleasing, and what it really means to speak your mind.

We talk about why the people closest to us can hurt us the most, how to be direct without being disrespectful, and why so many people struggle to say no without feeling guilty. We also get into the challenges women face when speaking with authority, the communication habits that quietly create conflict, and the difference between being liked and being respected.

Plus, I put Sara on the spot about two little words that might be making her conversations harder than they need to be.

If you've ever struggled to stand up for yourself, communicate with family, or worry too much about what other people think, this conversation is for you.

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The way you communicate in a relationship can tell you a lot about whether it's actually healthy. In this episode, I'm joined by dating and relationship expert Sabrina Zohar to talk about the biggest communication mistakes people make in dating, relationships, and even breakups. We discuss why texting can create a false sense of intimacy, how to recognize emotional immaturity, the difference between being direct and being hurtful, and why setting boundaries can reveal someone's true intentions. Sabrina also shares practical ways to communicate your needs, take accountability, and build relationships where you don't have to beg to be heard.

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Ever get a text message that makes you wonder, “What am I even supposed to say to that?” In this episode, I’m breaking down real text messages and emails from people dealing with difficult conversations at work, with family, and in friendships. From passive-aggressive bosses and controlling coworkers to family tension and hurt feelings, I’ll show you what works, what makes things worse, and what you can say instead. Because sometimes, changing just a few words can change the entire conversation.

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Cory Asbury joins me for an honest conversation about taking ownership, putting your ego aside, and learning to apologize without making excuses. We talk about why being right isn't always worth it, how to respond when someone tells you that you've hurt them, and why taking responsibility is one of the most powerful things you can do in any relationship.

Whether it's with your spouse, your kids, or someone you've hurt, this conversation is a reminder that real growth starts when you're willing to own your mistakes and make things right.

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Some conversations go bad before the other person even has a chance to respond. In this episode, I’m reacting to some of the internet’s most insane texts between bosses and employees—and breaking down exactly where the communication went wrong. From guilt trips and threats to ignored boundaries and a complete lack of empathy, these exchanges are a masterclass in what not to do. Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter. https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/newsletter Thank you to our Sponsors: Every Dollar. Try EveryDollar Premium free for 14 days, full access, on me. Go to https://everydollar.com/jefferson BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Order my new book, The Next Conversation, today! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/topic Join my School of Communication. https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/membership Follow me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher Follow me on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson?lang=en Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffersonfisher/

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What do you do when people criticize you, misunderstand you, or challenge what you believe?

Tim Tebow joins me for a conversation about what it really means to stand your ground without losing respect for the person across from you. We talk about handling criticism, knowing when to speak up and when to walk away, getting out of the comparison trap, and surrounding yourself with people who will tell you the truth.

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How do you stay compassionate without getting pulled into someone else’s chaos? In this call-in episode, I answer questions about setting boundaries with people who create constant turmoil, dealing with difficult relationship dynamics, and protecting your peace without becoming cold or detached.

We also talk about the communication advice every teenager needs, how to work through conflict with in-laws, what to say when someone makes your pain about them, and how to handle a parent who has chosen distance. These conversations are about staying kind, clear, and grounded when relationships get complicated.

I answer your questions.

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If you’ve ever wondered why a simple conversation can feel so overwhelming with ADHD, this episode is for you. Dr. Sasha Hamdani joins me to explain what’s really happening inside the ADHD brain—and how it impacts emotions, rejection, relationships, and communication.

We talk about why everything can feel “louder,” why feedback can hit so hard, and practical ways to communicate without shutting down, spiraling, or becoming overwhelmed.

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The best communicators are not the ones with the fastest comeback. They are the ones who know which question to ask. In this episode, I break down how to ask better questions when someone is insulting, pushing against you, or trying to pull you into an argument.

I will show you how to use clarifying questions to slow a conversation down, questions of intent to put the focus back where it belongs, and no-oriented questions to make a request without creating more resistance. You will learn how to stop giving people something to fight against and start asking questions that lead to clearer, calmer conversations.

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What if protecting your kids from struggle is actually making life harder for them later? Dr. Becky Kennedy joins me to talk about what it really takes to raise confident, resilient kids who can handle frustration, failure, boundaries, and hearing “no.” We get into when to help versus when to let your child struggle, the right way to set boundaries, how to avoid raising entitled kids, and why being a great parent has nothing to do with getting it right all the time. We also talk about one of the most important skills in any relationship—knowing how to repair when you mess up.

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Some conversations test your patience. Others test your character.

In this call-in episode, I answer your questions about staying calm when emotions run high, setting boundaries with the people you love, handling conflict with confidence, and responding without losing yourself. How do you get people to like you? What do you do with an estranged parent?

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Money might be one of the hardest conversations we avoid having. In this episode, I sit down with money expert Vivian Tu to talk about why money feels so uncomfortable, how the way we grew up shapes our financial habits, and how to have better conversations about money with your partner, your kids, and even your boss. Vivian also shares when to bring up money while dating, who should pay on the first date, and how to ask for the raise you deserve.

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Manipulation works when someone convinces you that their reaction is your responsibility. In this episode, I break down how to recognize manipulative behavior, why it can be hardest to see in the people closest to you, and what to do when someone uses guilt, pressure, fear, or obligation to get their way.

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Have you ever known exactly what you wanted to say, only for your mind to go completely blank when the pressure is on? In this episode, I sit down with brain coach and memory expert Jim Kwik to talk about why that happens and how to train your brain to perform when you need it most. We get into practical ways to improve memory, focus, and thinking speed, how your inner dialogue affects the way you communicate, and why relying too heavily on AI could actually weaken some of the mental skills you need most. Jim also shares simple techniques for remembering names, thinking faster on your feet, and keeping your brain sharp for the long haul.

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Disappointing people does not make you a bad person. But if you are always trying to manage everyone else's expectations, you will eventually lose sight of your own. In this episode, I break down how to say no without carrying the weight of someone else's reaction, why the feeling after the no is often harder than the no itself, and how to set a boundary without overexplaining, apologizing, or backing down. Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter. https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/newsletter Thank you to our Sponsors: Gusto: Go to https://gusto.com/jefferson and use code JEFFERSON to get three months free when you run your first payroll. BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Order my new book, The Next Conversation, today! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/topic Join my School of Communication. https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/membership Follow me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher Follow me on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson?lang=en Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffersonfisher/

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Today, I sit down with Baylen Dupree for a conversation about Tourette syndrome, neurodivergence, and what good communication actually looks like when someone experiences the world differently than you do. Baylen opens up about the things people often misunderstand about Tourette’s, the communication challenges she’s had to navigate in relationships and everyday life, and what she wishes more people understood about interacting with someone who is neurodivergent. We also talk about conflict, overstimulation, speaking up for what you need, and how the people closest to you can learn to communicate with you better. This is a conversation about understanding people beyond what you see on the surface—and becoming a more thoughtful communicator in the process.

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