The Modern Art Notes Podcast

Episode No. 782 features artist Terry Winters, and remembers the late artist Ursula von Rydingsvard.

The Menil Collection, Houston is showing "Terry Winters: Vitalized Geometry" through April 4, 2027. The exhibition presents 44 prints and works on paper recently acquired by the museum. It was curated by Sophie Asakura.

Four four decades Winters has joined abstraction to addresses of the natural world. Among the major museums that have presented solo exhibitions of his work are the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, and the Fogg Art Museum, Harvard University.

This is Winters' third visit to the program. He was a guest on Episodes No. 16 and No. 338.

As mentioned on the program:

• The Colby College Museum of Art has a complete collection of Winters prints. View it here;
• Winters' 2014 "Atmospheres" series;
• Winters' prints with ULAE;
• James Rosenquist, Circles of Confusion, 1965/66;
• Winters' 2024 "Point Cloud" exhibition at Matthew Marks, New York;
• Winters' 2026 "Along the River" exhibition at Modern Art, London;
• Winters' 1989 "Furrows" series with Peter Blum Edition; and
• Winters' 2024 "Azimuth" series with Two Palms;

On the second segment, remembering Ursula von Rydingsvard, who died this week. She was 84. von Rydingsvard was a guest on the program twice: on Episode No. 345, and on a COVID pandemic-era special episode in March 2020. The excerpt re-aired on this week's program is from that second visit.

As mentioned on the program:

• von Rydingsvard's 2011 Archives of American Art oral history.

Instagram: Terry Winters, Tyler Green.

Air date: October 29. 2026.

Episode No. 781 features artist Clare Rojas and curator Hillary Olcutt.

The Columbus (Ohio) Museum of Art is presenting "Clare Rojas: Returning" a survey of 60 works the Ohio-born Rojas has made mostly over the last decade. It particularly spotlights works Rojas has made that examine the cyclical nature of life. "Rojas" was curated by Katherine Brodbeck and is on view through February 7, 2027.

Rojas' distinct visual language is equally comfortable presenting figurative scenes and minimal abstract compositions that feature symbology and fantasy. Her pictures often engage with fauna and Peruvian mythology. Rojas' work has been included in exhibitions at museums such as SFMOMA, the de Young Museum, San Francisco, The Contemporary Austin, and more. This is her most significant museum solo show to date.

As discussed on the program:

• Peggy Honeywell discography (Rojas' musician alter ego);
• Clare Rojas wallpapers.

Olcutt is the curator of "Rooted in Place: California Native Art" at the de Young Museum, San Francisco. The presentation, part of the Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco's reimagining of its Arts of Indigenous America galleries, is the first in a series of exhibitions that highlights specific regions of Native California. This first installation looks at art from northwestern California, home to the Karuk, Yurok, Hupa, Tolowa, Tsnungwe, and Wiyot communities. It's on view through June 6, 2027.

Instagram: Clare Rojas, Tyler Green.

Air date: October 22, 2026.

Episode No. 780 features curator Edward Town and author Tim Barringer, and curator Leigh Arnold.

The Yale Center for British Art is presenting Town's "John Constable: The Landscape Reimagined" through July 25, 2027. The exhibition examines Constable's open-air paintings, pictures which helped transform European landscape painting, and which had significant impacts on United States painters too. "Constable" features works such as cloud studies, oil sketches, and two of Constable's vaunted six-footers, including YCBA's own Hadleigh Castle, one of the most iconic works of English landscape painting. It is the only major US exhibition of Constable's work on the 250th anniversary of his birth. The exhibition is accompanied by Barringer's Constable, the third installment in YCBA's Collection Series. The book includes a contribution from Nicholas Robbins. Bookshop and Amazon offer it for $35-37.

Arnold is the curator of "Bruce Nauman: Identical" at the Nasher Sculpture Center in Dallas. The exhibition features a group of polyurethane, silicone rubber, and plaster-cast animal forms, alongside a rotating selection of drawings and a 3D video, made from elements that the artist had in his New Mexico studio. It is on view through March 21, 2027.

Works discussed on the program include:

• Bruce Nauman, Animal Pyramid, 1989; and
• Bruce Nauman, Carousel (stainless steel version), 1988.

Instagram: Edward Town, Tim Barringer, Leigh Arnold, Tyler Green.

Air date: October 15, 2026.

Episode No. 779 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast is a holiday weekend clips show featuring artist Stacy Kranitz.

This week Terrible Baby Books is publishing Kranitz's Ain't No Grave Gonna Hold My Body Down, a new book that examines the evolving representation of the Appalachian mountaineer, tracing how poverty in the region has been constructed, challenged, and reimagined over time. Work in the book will be exhibited this fall at the Biennale Images Vevey in Vevey, Switzerland, The Contemporary Dayton, in Dayton, Ohio, and at The Gallatin Galleries, New York University. Ain't No Grave is available from Terrible Baby for $70.

Kranitz's work, primarily made in the southern Appalachian Mountains, presents the complexity and instability of a rugged region on which industry has preyed. Her work is in the collection of museums such as the National Gallery of Art, Washington, Harvard Art Museums, and the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston. Her sold-out 2022 book As it Was Give(n) to Me was published by Twin Palms and was shortlisted for a Paris Photo-Aperture First Photobook Award.

This episode was taped in 2023 when Kranitz was included in "A Long Arc: Photography and the American South since 1845" at the High Museum of Art, Atlanta. The exhibition considered the South as a forger of American identity and examines how Southern photographers have contributed to both the advance of their medium, and the US project. It was curated by Gregory J. Harris and Sarah Kennel.

For images and links to images, please see Episode No. 620.

Instagram: Stacy Kranitz, Tyler Green.

Air date: October 8. 2026.

Episode No. 778 features artist Celeste Rapone.

The MCA Chicago is presenting "Atrium Project: Celeste Rapone" in the museum's two-story entrance space through Jun 20, 2027. The presentation was organized by Jamillah James with Korina Hernandez.

Rapone's work centers domesticity, intimacy, and daily life, particularly as experienced by women. She has been included in exhibitions at the Institute of Contemporary Art Boston and the Georgia Museum of Art; her work is in the collection of the Hammer Museum, University of California, Los Angeles, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, the Speed Art Museum, Louisville, and the Pérez Art Museum Miami (promised).

Instagram: Celeste Rapone, Tyler Green.

Air date: October 1, 2026.

Episode No. 777 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast features artist Jitish Kallat.

The Menil Drawing Institute is presenting "Wall Drawing: Series: Jitish Kallat" through August 8, 2027. For the exhibition Kallat has produced a site-specific wall drawing that grows out of his years-long engagement with Project A119, a partly declassified 1958 US Air Force plan to detonate a nuclear bomb on the moon. The drawing Kallat has made for the MDI, Wall Drawing / Redux: A119, presents enlarged images derived from Kallat's 2025 Accordion of Drawings / Project A119 / Early Intuitions, in which watercolors evoke an unrealized Cold War story of ambition, secrecy, and the exporting of global violence to the moon. The presentation was curated by Edouard Kopp.

Kallat's work often blends the intimate and specific and the immense, and references history, science, time, and philosophy. He has exhibited at institutions such as the Art Institute of Chicago, the Art Gallery of New South Wales, the Tate Modern, London, and the Mori Art Museum, Tokyo, and he has participated in biennials in Venice, Gwangju, Havana, and more.

Works discussed on the program and extensively documented on Kallat's website include:

• Epilogue, 2011;
• Public Notice 3, 2010;
• Covering Letter (Terrum Nuncius), 2018-20;
• "I draw, therefore I think" (curatorial project); and
• Conjectures on a Paper Sky, 2025.

Instagram: Jitish Kallat, Tyler Green.

Air date: September 24, 2026.

Episode No. 776 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast features artist Mark Thomas Gibson and curator Ben Colman.

The Tang Museum at Skidmore College is presenting "Mark Thomas Gibson: We Are a Constellation," a survey of Gibson's recent considerations of US history and the relationship between our past and our present. The exhibition was curated by Ian Berry in collaboration with the artist and is on view through January 3, 2027.

Gibson's work is also featured in "The Crossing: Picturing the American Revolution" at the Michener Art Museum, Doylestown, Penn. "The Crossing" looks at how artists have represented Continental Army commander-in-chief George Washington's crossing of the Delaware River on Christmas night, 1776. "The Crossing" is particularly interested in how artists have built on and often 'refuted' Emanuel Leutze's famed 1851 Washington Crossing the Delaware, which is in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York. The exhibition, which was curated by Laura Igoe, is up through January 10, 2027.

An exhibition of Gibson's recent work opens at Philadelphia's Fleisher/Ollman Gallery tomorrow, and remains on view through November 7.

Among the institutions that have presented solo shows of Gibson's work are the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, The Library Company of Philadelphia, and the Museum of Contemporary Art Detroit.

Colman is the curator of "Georgia O'Keeffe: Architecture" at the Detroit Institute of Arts. Across about 35 paintings, the exhibition examines O'Keeffe's career-long interest in buildings and the built environment. It's on view through January 3, 2007. The DIA has published a catalogue that is available from Amazon and Bookshop for $32-34.

Instagram: Mark Thomas Gibson, Ben Colman, Tyler Green.

Air date: September 17, 2026.

Episode No. 775 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast features art historian Richard J. Powell and curator Danielle Canter.

Powell is the author of "Colorstruck! Painting, Pigment, Affect," which was just published by Princeton University Press. The book examines the historical and cultural work color does in the work of twentieth- and twenty-first-century artists such as Jacob Lawrence, Alma Thomas, Sam Gilliam, Hervé Télémaque, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Lynette Yiadom-Boakye, and Nina Chanel Abney. The book builds on Powell's 2022 National Gallery of Art Mellon Lectures of the same title. Bookshop and Amazon offer "Colorstruck!" from $46-61.

As discussed on the program:

• Powell's Mellon Lectures may be viewed here;
• The Amistad Research Center, Tulane University collection of Jacob Lawrence works, including the Toussaint L'Ouverture series;
• Nina Chanel Abney, San Juan Heal (Lincoln Center wall); and
• "Matisse Alive" at the Art Gallery of New South Wales, Sydney, Australia.

Powell, a professor at Duke University, is the author of numerous books, including "Going There: Black Visual Satire," "Cutting a Figure: Fashioning Black Portraiture," and "Homecoming: The Art and Life of William H. Johnson."

Canter is the curator of "Odilon Redon: Otherworldly Visions" at the J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles. The exhibition spotlights Redon's works on paper, including charcoal drawings, lithographs, and pastels. It particularly focuses on Redon's fantastical world of tonal and psychological darkness, and also his luminous color. It's on view through October 18. A Getty-published catalogue is available from Bookshop and Amazon for $25.

Instagram: Richard J. Powell, Tyler Green.

Air date: September 10, 2026.

Episode No. 774 is a summer clips episode featuring curators Shawnya L. Harris and Jeffrey Richmond-Moll.

Harris and Richmond-Moll are the curators of "Edmonia Lewis: Said in Stone" at the Georgia Museum of Art at the University of Georgia. The exhibition presents the life and work of nineteenth-century Black and Indigenous sculptor Edmonia Lewis in the context of her contemporaries and artists she may have influenced. It is on view through January 3, 2027. A valuable catalogue was published by the Peabody Essex Museum and Georgia Museum of Art, University of Georgia. Amazon and Bookshop offer it for $50-55.

As discussed on the program:

• Gisela Torres, Reverie and Slumber, 2020.

For images, please see Episode No. 748.

Episode No. 773 is a summer clips episode featuring artist Lotus L. Kang.

The Frye Art Museum, Seattle is showing "Lotus L. Kang: I hear the hollow boom of time" through September 27. The installation features large sheets of unfixed industrial film that have been exposed to light sources as part of a process Kang calls 'tanning,' a process that aligns film's surface to skin. Sculptures that include tatami mats as their base take up some of the space between the film sheets, which are suspended from above. The show also includes a kinetic sculpture that evokes the body. "I hear the hollow boom of time" was organized by Georgia Erger.

Kang's work often blends sculpture, photography and installation in address of bodies, memories, and histories that change over time. Kang has been featured in exhibitions at the MCA Chicago, the Venice Biennale, the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York, the Hessel Museum of Art, Bard College, and the 2021 triennial at New York's New Museum.

This conversation was recorded in 2023 on the occasion of Kang's presentation of a project in the MCA Chicago's atrium. For images, see Episode No. 604.

Instagram: Lotus L. Kang, Tyler Green.

Episode No. 772 features art historians Zanna Gilbert and Andrew Perchuk; and curator Meg Linton, museum director Taras Matla, and associate museum director Steve Comba.

Along with Emily Pugh, Gilbert and Perchuk are the project leads for "Ed Ruscha's Streets of Los Angeles," a Getty Research Institute project that has, among other things, digitized Ed Ruscha's five-decade-long photographic project to document the streets of Los Angeles. The GRI project also considers Ruscha's Streets of Los Angeles archive within a range of historical frameworks, spotlights what it tells us about modern and contemporary art, architecture, and the physical, social, and cultural geographies of Los Angeles.

GRI-produced websites include:

• "Artist, Image, Archive, City," a free digital book featuring visualizations, essays, images and more (the book is also available in free PDF and EPUB formats);
• "12 Sunsets," which features Ruscha's famed photos of the Sunset Strip, including how the street has changed over the last 50 years;
• The Ed Ruscha's Streets of Los Angeles Archive at the GRI;
• Research Collections Viewer for Ruscha's photographs of Sunset Boulevard and Hollywood Boulevard;
• Research Collections Viewer for Ruscha's photographs of (other) Los Angeles streets;
• Digitized images from the collection.

On the second segment, we discuss the dispersal of artist Steve Roden's estate with curator Meg Linton, who has advised the estate, University of Maryland Art Gallery director Taras Matla, and Benton Museum of Art at Pomona College associate director Steve Comba. Roden was a Los Angeles-area-based artist who worked in sound, sculpture, painting, and other media, who passed away in 2023 at the age of 59. The Roden estate has recently dispersed works to museums all over the United States, including those represented on this week's program, as well as to the Grunwald Center at the Hammer Museum, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, the UC Irvine Langson Orange County Museum of Art, Ruby City, San Antonio, and more. Roden created sound for The MAN Podcast in 2011.

Air date: August 20, 2026.

Episode No. 771 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast is a summer clips episode featuring art historian Michael W. Cole.

Princeton University Press has just published Cole's Sofonisba's Lesson, New Edition: A Renaissance Artist and Her Work. The book updates Cole's 2020 edition of the book, an assessment of Sofonisba Anguissola (1532–1625), a pathbreaking painter who substantially made it possible for women to be students of art. Bookshop and Amazon offers Sofonisba's Lesson for $63-68.

Cole's book considers Sofonisba Anguissola's art, how her background, teaching and learning were important to her career and art, and how her relationships with her father Amilcare, her teacher Bernardino Campi, Michelangelo and a series of royals and royal courts resulted in her work — and in work attributed to her.

This new, expanded volume offers new considerations of paintings whose status has been uncertain, and provides an up-to-date illustrated catalogue of over 200 known paintings and drawings that have been associated with Sofonisba. Cole is a professor of art history and archaeology at Columbia University.

This episode was taped in 2020, when Princeton published the first edition of the book. For images, see Episode No. 457.

Air date: August 13, 2026.

Episode No. 770 features former museum director, former Association of Art Museum Directors president, and Souls Grown Deep president Maxwell L. Anderson, and Oakland Museum of California director Lori Fogarty.

With the Trump administration and its Congressional allies having threatened, diminished, or attacked national cultural institutions such as the National Gallery of Art, the Kennedy Center, and increasingly the Smithsonian Institution, Anderson discusses whether the sector's response to government hostility has been appropriate. The first, and perhaps only museum to speak out after the most recent Trump administration attacks on Smithsonian museums and the directors was the Japanese American National Museum, Los Angeles. (JANM will be hosting National Museum of American History director Anthea Hartig, the director the administration has most recently attacked, for a live program on August 22.) The Association of Art Museum Directors has not spoken about administration attacks on federal museum institutions since this December 2025 statement. The American Alliance of Museums "condemned" the Trump administrations attacks nearly two weeks after JANM issued its statement.

• Read and/or subscribe to Anderson's Art Scoping Substack.

Museums also do internal work to meet our moment. Fogarty joins the program to discuss how museums and their staffs best work within their community and in ways that advance their communities values, especially in ways that go beyond narrow, essentializing approaches to administration, exhibitions, and more.

• Read Fogarty's recent The Art Newspaper op-ed, "Museums are civic institutions. It's time we acted like it."

Air date: August 6, 2026.

Episode No. 769 features a conversation with Betye Saar recorded in 2016. Saar died on Sunday a few days short of her one hundredth birthday.

Saar, known especially for her use of assemblage and her often pioneering address of complicated and often troubling US, and diasporic African and Caribbean histories, was one of the most influential artists of the last 60 years. Generations of artists, including Saar's artist-daughters Lezley and Alison, have found Saar's work foundational.

Even though Saar was recognized around the world as among the most influential artists of late-twentieth and early twenty-first century United States, remarkably, shamefully, and revealingly, none of Saar's hometown art museums ever launched a retrospective of her work.

Saar was a guest on The Modern Art Notes Podcast in 2016 on the occasion of a survey of her work organized by De Domijnen (which was formerly known as Museum Het Domein) in Sittard, the Netherlands in partnership with Scottsdale (Ariz.) Museum of Contemporary Art. For images of artworks discussed in this conversation, see Episode No. 222.

Air date: July 30, 2026.

Episode No. 768 features artist Derrick Adams.

The Institute of Contemporary Art/Boston is presenting "Derrick Adams: View Master" through September 7. It is the first mid-career survey of Adams' twenty-year career. The exhibition was curated by Dexter Wimberly and Tessa Bachi Haas. An Adams monograph was published by Monacelli in association with Gagosian, an art dealership chain, last year in anticipation of the exhibition.

Adams' work celebrates contemporary Black Life in works that emphasize joy and leisure. Among the institutions presenting solo exhibitions of his work are the Cleveland Museum of Art, the Hudson River Museum, Yonkers, NY, and the Museum of Contemporary Art, Denver. His work is in collection of museums such as the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York; the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York; the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, Richmond; the Studio Museum in Harlem; and Adams' hometown Baltimore Museum of Art.

Series of Adams' work discussed on the program:

• Floater;
• Figure in the Urban Landscape;
• Profile Pics; and
• Family Portraits.

Instagram: Derrick Adams, Tyler Green.

Air date: July 23, 2026.

Episode No. 767 features artist Young Joon Kwak and curator Laura Igoe.

Kwak is featured in the 2026 Whitney Biennial at the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York. Curated by Drew Sawyer and Marcela Guerrero with assistance from Beatriz Cifuentes and Carina Martinez, it's on view through August 23.

Kwak uses sculpture, performance, and collective action to explore bodily transformation, intimacy, and the politics of visibility. Through visually lush, often highly detailed sculptures, Kwak challenges traditional and dominant modes of representation while manifesting ways that trans and queer bodies might be seen. Kwak is the co-founder of Mutant Salon and lead performer in the electronic-dance-noise band Xina Xurner with Marvin Astorga. They have had solo exhibitions at museums such as the Berkeley Art Museum & Pacific Film Archive, University of California, Berkeley; the Leslie-Lohman Museum of Art, New York; and ARKO Art Center, Seoul. Kwak's work is in the collections of BAMPFA, the Crocker Art Museum, Sacramento; the Dallas Museum of Art; the Speed Art Museum, Louisville; and the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

Igoe is the curator of "The Crossing: Picturing the American Revolution" at the Michener Art Museum, Doylestown, Penn. The exhibition looks at how artists have represented Continental Army commander-in-chief George Washington's crossing of the Delaware River on Christmas night, 1776. Upon reaching the New Jersey side of the river, Washington and his troops would attack carousing Hessian mercenary soldiers fighting for the British, earning a pivotal victory for the Patriots. "The Crossing" is particularly interested in how artists have built on and 'refuted' Emanuel Leutze's famed 1851 Washington Crossing the Delaware, which is in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York. The exhibition is on view through January 10, 2027.

As discussed on the program:

• Kwak's Glitter Mani Festo.

Igoe was a guest on Episode No. 732, when she discussed her election to the Jenkintown, Penn. school board.

Instagram: Young Joon Kwak, Laura Igoe, Tyler Green.

Air date: July 16, 2026.

Episode No. 766 of The Modern Art Notes Podcast features curators Matthew Affron, Michelle Kuo, and Ann Temkin, and artist Nic Nicosia.

The Museum of Modern Art, New York is presenting "Marcel Duchamp" through August 22. The exhibition, the first Duchamp retrospective in the United States since 1973, features over 300 works from across Duchamp's career. The show was curated by Affron, Kuo, and Temkin, with assistance from with Alexandra "Lo" Drexelius, Helena Klevorn, Danielle Cooke, and Julia Vázquez. MoMA has published a catalogue for the show; Amazon offers it for $63.

The Nasher Sculpture Center, Dallas is showing "Nic Nicosia: Everyday Surreal" through August 16. The exhibition surveys the last 25 years of Nicosia's career (the period since a 1999-2000 mid-career retrospective) a time during which he has particularly focused on sculpture, films, and drawing. The exhibition was curated by Jed Morse. The Nasher has published a valuable catalogue of the exhibition. It is available from the museum.

Air date: July 9, 2026.

Episode No. 765 is a holiday clips episode featuring artist Hew Locke.

The Museum of Fine Arts Houston is presenting "Hew Locke: Passages," the first US survey of Locke's career, through September 13. Across sculpture, painting, photography and installations, Locke's work considers colonialism, its power, and the ways in which we respond to colonialism and its impacts. Locke, who is Guyanese-British, particularly focuses on British imperialism and how it was constructed, including through monarchy, trade, and (sometimes forced) migration. The show was curated by Martina Droth. The catalogue, which was edited by Droth and Allie Biswas, was published by the YCBA. Bookshop and Amazon offer it for $60-70. In-gallery materials are available here in both English and Spanish.

Locke's work has been featured in solo exhibitions at The British Museum, London, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, Tate Britain, London, the Institute of Contemporary Art / Boston, Pérez Art Museum Miami, and more.

In addition to the images below, here are links to works and exhibitions discussed on the program:

• Hew Locke, Ark, 1994.
• Hew Locke, Menace to Society (series), 1999-2001.
• Hew Locke, The Nameless, 2010.
• "Hew Locke: what have we here" at the British Museum;
• "A Conspiracy of Icons: The Art of Donald Locke," at the High Museum of Art, Atlanta; and
• "The Other Story: Afro-Asian Artists in Post-War Britain" at the Hayward Gallery, London.

Instagram: Hew Locke, Tyler Green.

Air date: July 2, 2026.

Episode No. 764 features artist Louis Fratino.

The Baltimore Museum of Art is exhibiting "Fratino and Matisse: To See This Light Again" through September 6. The exhibition shows how Matisse -- specifically Baltimore's great Matisse collection -- has informed Fratino's painting. The exhibition was co-curated by Virginia Anderson and Katy Rothkopf.

Fratino, who earned his undergraduate degree at Baltimore's Maryland Institute College of Art, often depicts intimate personal spaces and experiences, usually by centering queer life and the male body. His work has been the subject of a solo show at the FLAG Art Foundation, New York; he has been included in group exhibitions at museums such as the Long Island Museum, Stony Brook, NY; the Institute of Contemporary Art, Boston, the RISD Museum, Providence; and the Columbus Museum of Art. His work is well-collected by art museums such as the Art Institute of Chicago, the British Museum, London, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, the MCA Chicago, and the MFA Houston.

Air date: June 25, 2026.

Episode No. 763 is a summer clips episode featuring artist Jes Fan.

The Yale University Art Gallery is presenting "Jes Fan: Unbounded" through June 28. The exhibition spotlights how Fan makes sculptures that combine elegant abstract forms with an experimental and innovative approach to materials. Fan's sculptures often explore the porousness of identity, and incorporate living matter, such hormones, and fluids, such as glass. Fan's work has been exhibited in the 2024 Whitney Biennial, the 2022 Venice Biennale, the 2021 New Museum Triennial at the New Museum, New York, the MIT List Visual Arts Center, the Contemporary Arts Center, Cincinnati, and more.

As mentioned on the program:

• Stills from Fan's 2023 video Palimpsest.
• Byung-Chul Han's book Saving Beauty.

For more images, see Episode No. 658.