The Overflow Podcast

Choosing a giving platform is a big decision. You want a partner that keeps getting better, not one that slows down after it's sold.

In this episode, Overflow CEO Vance Roush sits down with his friend of more than 10 years, Kyle Jenke. Kyle has helped build WhatsApp, Intuit, and more, and he was Overflow's very first advisor. He shares the four things every lasting company has, why founder-led companies keep innovating, and why churches deserve technology as good as any business.

What to look for in a giving platform

• A founder who's all in. Kyle shares why companies led by their founders keep dreaming bigger and building better.
• Built for the long haul. We hear how the right owners and backers help a company keep serving its customers for years to come.
• The marks of a company that lasts. Kyle shares four traits he's seen in the best companies: a founder in charge, a love for the customer, great people, and moving fast.
• Giving that's simple. Kyle and Vance talk about why making generosity easy, even in five seconds with tap to give, opens the door for more people to give.
• More ways to give. We learn how giving stock helps both the giver and the church do more good.

Also in this episode

• How Kyle and Vance met at a church launch in 2012
• The 2019 conversation where Vance first shared the idea for Overflow
• Why disagreeing isn’t the same as dividing
• Legacy, faith, and raising kids who know Jesus

About Kyle

Kyle Jenke is the COO of OP Labs, the team behind Optimism. Before that, he led partnerships at Adyen, WhatsApp, and Intuit, and spent six years at Goldman Sachs. He was Overflow's first advisor and is now a board member.

Mentioned in this episode

• Generosity University: https://www.generosityuniversity.co/
• Overflow Tap: https://www.overflow.co/overflowtap
• Stock giving with Overflow: https://www.overflow.co/overflow-giving/stock

This episode is brought to you by Generosity University. A course your small groups walk through together, with simple lessons on everything from building a budget to investing. When people get their money in order, they finally have room to give. See the first lesson at https://www.generosityuniversity.co/

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Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

Most pastors didn’t get into ministry to talk about money. But when a church grows, giving matters.

In our first episode, Overflow CEO Vance Roush sits down with Pastor Adam Mesa of Patria Church in Southern California. Pastor Adam shares how Patria talks about giving with no guilt and no empty promises. He explains how being open about money builds trust, why generosity has to be taught, and the simple things that help people follow through when they want to give.

Pastor Adam also shares two stories that shaped his life: giving away his first paycheck at 16, and the trip savings he and his wife Ashley used to buy a friend a car.

In this episode

• Building a space that shows people they’re cared for
• Doing things well without overspending
• Why Pastor Adam chose Overflow as a giving partner
• Running a capital campaign with full transparency
• No guilt, no promises: how Patria talks about giving
• What stops people from giving, and how to fix it
• “You already have a generous church”
• Debt, money skills, and why people who don’t give are often strapped, not stingy
• The car that started a habit of giving
• A prayer for pastors and leaders

About Pastor Adam

Adam Mesa is the Lead Pastor of Patria Church, a multi-site church in Southern California that his father started in 1994. Pastor Adam grew up in the church and leads with a passion for building spaces and systems that help people grow. He is also Overflow’s newest board member.

Mentioned in this episode

Generosity University: http://generosityuniversity.co

Overflow Tap: http://overflow.co/overflowtap

Patria Church: https://www.patria.church/

This episode is brought to you by Generosity University. A course your small groups walk through together, with simple lessons on everything from building a budget to investing. When people get their money in order, they finally have room to give. See the first lesson at http://generosityuniversity.co

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

Generosity is more than what we give. It’s how we lead, how we spend our time, and what we build for others.

The Overflow Podcast is here. Each week, Overflow CEO Vance Roush sits down with pastors and leaders building a more generous future. They share real stories about giving: what’s working, what’s hard, and what they’ve learned along the way.

Our first episode drops Wednesday, October 21st.

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Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance Roush sits down with Christian & Alex Aranza of Valley Rise Church + Brooke & Michael Strickland of Soma Church to discuss their experiences in building community as church planters, navigating challenges, and leveraging technology to enhance their missions. The guests share personal stories of faith, the impact of their work on their communities, and the innovative strategies they employ to foster growth and connectivity within their congregations.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance Roush sits down with Vive global pastors Adam & Kiera Smallcombe, as well as Mike and Lisa Kai of Inspire Church, Hawaii to discuss the future of the church, integrating technology and innovation with faith. It features insights from faith leaders and innovators on the importance of adopting new strategies to further missions within the faith community, emphasizing the role of technology in enhancing church operations and outreach.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

Join Zoe and Vance as they share their personal stories of getting hacked and dive into savvy financial tips for churches, from getting cash back on tithes to cutting down on processing fees, all while exploring how Overflow is changing the game in church financial management.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance and Zoe converse about making the giving moment in church more meaningful and effective. It explores fresh ways to talk about tithing, steering clear of clichéd Bible verses, and how to avoid making it feel like a 'panhandling' situation, while also offering practical tips for church planters on building trust with their congregation.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance and Zoe discuss how to discern which ideas to pursue and when to pivot, both in church leadership and startup ventures. It also touches on understanding church engagement metrics and the intricacies of building a venture-backed startup, including why churches should be mindful of software companies' ultimate goals.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

We know that especially this year, it feels like every dollar needs to go further than it has before. In this episode, we are discussing 5 ways cash strapped churches can create instant savings for their organization. The best part - all 5 can be implemented immediately to experience the cost savings and benefits!

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, we delve into the importance of transparency in church donations, especially for Millennials and Gen Z. We discuss the varying approaches churches take in communicating their financial metrics and goals, and Zoe offers a unique perspective on church tax forms. Additionally, we explore the auditing process, how to handle requests for financial statements, and innovative measures pastors are taking to ensure financial integrity.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this Give It Up podcast episode, Zoe and Vance explore the best strategies for year-end giving, discuss the nuances of Q4 church giving language, and draw insights from the Vive building campaign. We also delve into why some churches withhold their fundraising targets, and Vance wraps up with a poignant encouragement for pastors and churches on effective fundraising.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode of the Give It Up podcast, Vance and Zoe discuss the optics of empty offering buckets, gifting clothes and sneakers to church staff, hot takes on what Jesus would say we should be investing in and giving away current day, and so much more!

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance and Zoe explore the intriguing concept of churches fostering financial prosperity among their congregation. Drawing from a prophetic insight received by Vive Church, they discuss the importance of faith and works, and challenge common misconceptions about wealth in religious contexts. The episode serves as a bridge between faith, technology, and the entrepreneurial spirit prevalent in places like Silicon Valley.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

Being a tech founder and also a pastor in the Silicon Valley, Vance Roush and his co-worker Zoe discuss their experiences wanting to be Kingdom minded in the workplace, entrepreneurship in the Bible, how churches can walk with their businesspeople in the congregation better, and using one's gifts OUTside the church.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

Sam Collier, author & pastor of Story Church Atlanta, joins Vance and Zoe on the Give It Up Podcast to discuss planting a church in a major city, generosity, creating a record label, and how Sam is breaking the typical pastoral mold by pursuing many entrepreneurial endeavors all at once, to further Kingdom missions!

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

Pastor Mike Kai of Inspire Church in Oahu, HI sits down with Vance and Zoe to discuss pastors who are also entrepreneurs, investors, and leaders in their communities. They cover topics including: how to know if you should pursue an entrepreneurial path, how to collide your passions and Kingdom calling collide, and the importance of local civic engagment as well!

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

AI is a hot topic, and there is major concerns over what jobs can be replaced with AI, and how soon that can happen. As we zero in on the creative/design industry in this conversation, Zoe and Vance chat with Wendell McKinney,(owner of creative agency Divine Persuasion Studio) to get his thoughts on the future of AI in the creative space, how believers should think about AI, and how he is thinking about infusing it into his own work!

To learn more about Wendell's company, and the work that they do, click HERE.
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Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance and Zoe sit down with Taylor Hiott, a serial entrepreneur and the founder of Kingdom Empowered. He also is a millennial crypto donor (yes, they are real) and we discussing his thoughts on the crypto market, why he donates crypto vs. cash, handling dips in the crypto market and more! If you're interested in the future of giving, and staying on top of finance trends your church can prepare for now, then you will love this episode!

To follow Taylor's newest business, search @KingdomEmpowered on all social platforms, and check out the Kingdom Empowered website HERE.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

In this episode, Vance and Zoe chat with Peter McGowan from Storyland Studios on what he has learned from building and creating immersive "worlds" and experiences at the Disney and Universal Theme parks, expanding visual vocabularies, and what the church can do to create unbelievable guest experiences and tell even better stories.

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.

We are in an interesting era of the church. The days of "motivational" messages are behind us (thankfully), and we now have the younger generations hungry for scriptural depth and understanding. On this episode, founder of Arma courses and traveling pastor Manny Arango breaks down the millennial mindset when it comes to scripture reading, and how we as the church can better teach and empower Millennials and Gen Z in their quest for Biblical Truth!

Overflow is a giving platform for churches and nonprofits that takes a different approach to generosity. Donors can give however they want, from cards and cash to stock, crypto, and donor-advised funds.

Overflow goes further, with educational classes that help donors understand the why behind giving, and NFC tap technology that lets people give or respond with one tap of their phone, no app required. The result is more engaged supporters and generosity that lasts beyond a single ask.

Built by pastors and leaders in Silicon Valley, Overflow is trusted by over 1,000 ministries and organizations. Its mission is to inspire the world to give.

Watch every episode on your favorite streaming platform.