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The Rest Is Politics: Leading
The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more.
From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.
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- Politics chart
- #114
- Episodes
- 216
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 1 hr 6 min
- On air since
- 2023
- Latest episode
- 2 days ago
Episodes
216 episodes, newest first
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1 hr 4 min
China and the USA: The Most Important Relationship In The World? (Kevin Rudd)
Episode 213
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What do Xi Jinping and Donald Trump actually want? How much does Beijing back Putin, and could it ever pressure him over Ukraine? How likely is a conflict over Taiwan, and when could it be?
Rory and Alastair are joined by the prior Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, to answer all these questions and more.
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Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Exec Producer: Bella Soames
General Manager: Tom Whiter
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59 min
What Happens When The World Stops Trusting America? (Michael Lewis)
Episode 212
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Why did Elon Musk really go to Washington, and was DOGE ever about cutting government at all? What happens when the world stops trusting America, and could the next financial crisis already be under way? What will Trump do if he loses the midterms?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Michael Lewis, author of The Big Short, Moneyball and the new book Blockers, to answer all these questions and more.
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Social Producer: Celine Charles
Video Editor: Bruno Di Castri
Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
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General Manager: Tom Whiter
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55 min
Trump's Niece on Why He's On Putin's Side
Episode 211
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How did Donald Trump’s childhood shape the president we see today? Why was Mary Trump cut out of her grandfather’s billion-dollar will? Why does he want to see Europe fail?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Mary Trump, Donald Trump’s niece and a clinical psychologist, to discuss all these questions and more.
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Video Editor: Caroline Kaye, Tom McCagherty, Oli Ortega, Kierson Leslie
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1 hr 15 min
Rory and Alastair Interview Prime Minister Andy Burnham
Episode 210
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With the Trump administration planning to livestream a firing squad execution, should the UK take a stand? How will Andy Burnham change Britain’s relationship with the EU? Why has he agreed to publish details of meetings following the Manchester City scandal?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Andy Burnham, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, to answer all these questions and more.
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Social Producer: Bex Tyrrell, Sam Oakley
Video Editor: Kieron Leslie, Charlie Rodwell
Videographer: Harry Swan, Charlie Rodwell, Tom McCagherty
Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Producer: Evan Green
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Executive Producer: Isabella Soames
General Manager: Tom Whiter
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1 hr 18 min
Shabana Mahmood: Palestine Action, Faith, and What I Told Starmer
Episode 209
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Should Palestine Action stay banned? Why can't Britain just send small boats straight back to France? Can faith and public duty coexist in modern British politics?
Rory and Alastair are joined by the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, to answer all this and more.
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Video Editor: Kieron Leslie
Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Head of Politics: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport
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1 hr 6 min
Mustafa Suleyman: Is AI Actually Conscious?
Episode 208
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Can Artificial Intelligence stay subordinate? Is Anthropic’s 100-Page constitution creating dangerous AI autonomy? Should AI models be granted legal personhood, rights, or financial compensation?
CEO of Microsoft AI, and co-founder and former head of AI at DeepMind, Mustafa Suleyman, joins Rory Stewart to discuss all this and more.
If you'd like to listen to more of Mustafa Suleyman and his backstory, click here to find our previous interview with him from 2023.
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Social Producer: Celine Charles
Video Editor: Teo Ayodeji-Ansell
Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Head of Politics: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport
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57 min
Gordon Brown: How to Fix a Fracturing World
Episode 207
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What did Gordon Brown learn from leading the UK through the global financial crisis? Why do so many citizens today not belong to any civic or religious group, and how does that impact our politics? How can middle powers come together to rival the strength of China and the USA?
Former Prime Minister of the UK, Gordon Brown, joins Rory and Alastair to discuss all this and more.
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Social Producer: Celine Charles
Video Editor: Vasco Andrade
Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Head of Politics: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport
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59 min
How Putin's War Changed Finland Forever (Sanna Marin)
Episode 206
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Following Putin's war in Ukraine, how politically challenging was it committing Finland to join NATO? What was it like becoming the world's youngest sitting prime minister at 34? Why did a scandal over dancing at a private party become a national and international story?
Rory and Alastair are joined by former Prime Minister of Finland, Sanna Marin, to discuss all this and more.
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Lead Video Editor: Josh Smith
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1 hr 1 min
Anthony Scaramucci: Why America Keeps Making the Same Mistakes
Episode 205
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Why does Anthony Scaramucci think Osama bin Laden is “winning”, and what has the War on Terror really cost America? From letting China into the WTO to bailing out the banks in 2008, how did America's own leaders pave the way for Donald Trump's electoral victories? As Trump's second term reaches its halfway point, is America about to bankrupt itself?
Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart are joined by Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s former Communications Director and co-host of The Rest is Politics: US, to answer all these questions and more.
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Head Video Editor: Josh Smith
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1 hr 7 min
Will a Wealth Tax Actually Fix Britain? (Dan Neidle)
Episode 204
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Why does tax expert Dan Neidle take Gabriel Zucman seriously as a thinker on inequality, but dismiss Gary Stevenson's warnings as populism? What did he uncover in Peter Mandelson's emails, and how did he expose Nadhim Zahawi's tax affairs? Can a wealth tax really raise the money Britain needs, or is it a seductive slogan that promises far more than it can deliver?
Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart are joined by tax expert Dan Neidle to answer all these questions and more.
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51 min
The Man Taking On Infantino: UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin
Episode 203
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How did UEFA president Aleksander Čeferin lead the revolt that tore apart Gianni Infantino's plan to privatise the World Cup? Is Infantino finished as FIFA President after alienating the European federations who once put him there? What does Infantino's courtship of Donald Trump - from the FIFA "Peace Prize" to the World Cup red card scandal - reveal about the collision of football and politics?
Alastair Campbell is joined by UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin, to answer all these questions and more.
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Video Editor: Josh Smith, Vasco Andrade, Lorcan Moullier, Caroline Kaye, Bruno Di Castri
Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Producer: Evan Green
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
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1 hr 15 min
Is Peace in the Middle East Closer Than We Think? (A Palestinian & An Israeli's View)
Episode 202
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How do an Israeli who lost his parents on October 7th and a Palestinian whose brother died after torture in Israeli prisons come together to reject revenge and build a brotherhood for peace? Why do they believe lasting peace between Israel and Palestine could be just "two to four weeks away"? What can Britain do to help end a conflict it helped create?
Alastair and Rory are joined by peace activists Maoz Inon and Aziz Abu Sarah to answer all of these questions and more.
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1 hr 16 min
How Westminster Breaks Politicians and Why Britain Isn't Ready for War
Episode 201
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Is Britain's military being left behind as drones and AI rewrite the rules of modern warfare? Is British politics broken beyond repair, and does Johnny Mercer's ruthless fight for veterans reveal what's really wrong with Westminster? Why did a man so obsessed with truth end up defending Boris Johnson?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Johnny Mercer, former Conservative MP, Cabinet Minister, and Veterans Minister, to answer all these questions and more.
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42 min
Count Binface: Nigel Farage's Biggest Threat?
Episode 200
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Is Count Binface really Nigel Farage's biggest threat in Clacton, and has Farage already lost by turning "me against the establishment" into a battle against a bin? Does Binface's manifesto hide serious politics beneath the comedy? Could a joke candidate ever become a serious political force?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Count Binface as they answer all these questions and more.
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Video Editor: Josh Smith, Caroline Kaye, James Clayden, Oli Ortega, Lorcan Moullier
Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Exec Producer: Chris Sawyer
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1 hr 6 min
Is Trump's Chaos Pushing Iceland Towards the EU? (Prime Minister of Iceland, Kristrún Frostadóttir)
Episode 199
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What are the real reasons Iceland has brought forward its vote on restarting accession talks with the EU? What lessons did the Prime Minister learn from watching Brexit unfold while living in the UK, and how have those experiences shaped her government's approach to Iceland's EU campaign? How did the Social Democrats go from three MPs to running the country?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Kristrún Frostadóttir, Prime Minister of Iceland, to discuss all these questions and more.
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53 min
How Trump’s Imperial Presidency Really Works
Episode 198
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How does the most chaotic White House in history actually make decisions? How did Netanyahu sell Trump on a regime change war in Iran? Who is the only world leader Trump is truly afraid of?
Alastair is joined by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, White House correspondents for the New York Times and authors of 'Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump' to discuss all these questions and more.
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1 hr 12 min
The Billionaire Tax Debate (Gabriel Zucman)
Episode 197
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Can the super rich ever be fairly taxed, or are there too many functioning tax havens? Can capitalism survive the ever growing disparity between the top 1% and the rest? Should billionaires exist at all?
Rory and Alastair are joined by economist Gabriel Zucman to answer all this and more.
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1 hr 13 min
How America Talks Itself Into Endless Wars
Episode 196
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What does the gap between American foreign policy rhetoric and reality reveal about the failures of its military interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Iran? In an age of algorithm-driven political polarisation, can authentic political speech still break through, or has social media made Trump-style fragmentation impossible to overcome? Is Donald Trump an anomaly in American politics, or part of a recurring historical cycle - and what does this suggest about America's future?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Ben Rhodes, Barack Obama's former speechwriter and Deputy National Security advisor, to answer all of these questions and more.
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Barack Obama's 2009 speech on a 'New Strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan', as mentioned by Rory.
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1 hr 11 min
Can the West Reclaim its Power from Trump? (Malcolm Turnbull)
Episode 195
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As Western nations become increasingly dependent on the US for AI, satellite infrastructure, and defence, are they sacrificing sovereignty in exchange for American security? Can middle powers such as Australia and the UK pursue genuinely independent foreign and defence policies when a Trump-led America prioritises its own interests? Is AUKUS a genuine security partnership, or is Australia bankrolling American and British interests?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Malcolm Turnbull, former Prime Minister of Australia, to discuss all of these questions and more.
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1 hr 4 min
Is Putin Losing his Grip on Russia?
Episode 194
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With war fatigue growing and polls showing increasing dissatisfaction with life in Russia, is Vladimir Putin beginning to lose control? What is really happening inside Russia today? And what is it like to report the truth from inside one of the world's most repressive states?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Steve Rosenberg, Russia Editor for BBC News, to answer all of these questions and more.
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