Podcast

The Tired Dad & Tired Mom Podcast

Kids & Family, Parenting, Relationships, Society & Culture

Jon Gustin, The Tired Dad, and his wife Jessica, The Tired Mom, get real, honest, and authentic about their 13-year journey in marriage and parenting. Jon has over 2 million followers on social media and openly shares his vulnerabilities and truths about fatherhood and husbandhood. Jessica joins him to bring perspective from a mom's point of view, sharing what it means to be an involved mother and wife. Together, with their honesty, they make all parents, husbands, and wives feel less alone on this journey.

Episodes
49
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
53 min
On air since
2024
Latest episode
3 weeks ago

Episodes

49 episodes, newest first

  1. Traditional Roles, Resentment, and How We Avoided Divorce

    Episode 49

    Show notes

    In this episode, we share our personal journey through marriage, challenges like postpartum depression, and how we built a strong, connected relationship despite setbacks. We discuss practical strategies for communication, equality, and redefining traditional roles to create a thriving marriage.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and episode overview
    02:00 Personal stories and challenges faced in marriage
    05:08 Impact of postpartum depression and communication gaps
    10:08 The importance of redefining roles and equality
    14:53 Building a strong, connected partnership over years
    20:14 Community, support, and creating a shared life
    25:12 Practical advice for couples and men in marriage
    30:13 Introducing their app and community project
    35:05 Encouragement for ongoing personal and relationship growth
    39:51 Final thoughts and closing

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    46 min
  2. Parenting, Stress, Slowing Down and Finding Joy

    Episode 48

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    In this episode, we share our honest experiences of parenting through a challenging summer, the stress, expectations, slowing down, and finding joy in simple moments. We discuss how societal pressures and personal struggles impact our mental health and relationships, emphasizing the importance of grace and perspective.

    0:00 — Intro

    0:18 — A hard summer

    1:45 — No breaks, no help

    3:42 — Comparing our summer

    5:31 — Teaching patience

    6:05 — The pressure of comparison

    8:19 — Too much stimulation

    10:08 — Boredom was a luxury

    11:27 — Are we doing enough?

    13:27 — Give yourself grace

    14:27 — Present vs. realistic

    17:01 — Slow down, don’t speed up

    18:10 — What would we miss?

    20:12 — Random togetherness

    21:33 — Creating a home you don’t need to vacation from

    23:59 — Small moments matter

    26:21 — Entering a new phase of life

    27:51 — Sobriety and daily work

    28:03 — Looking beyond yourself

    29:09 — The pressure of being the provider

    31:31 — Perspective and mental battles

    34:23 — You’re not alone

    36:24 — Calling it what it is

    39:02 — Struggle builds strength

    41:38 — Closing and subscribe reminder

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    44 min
  3. The Roommate Phase

    Episode 47

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    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the episode and personal background

    00:48 The roommate phase and its effects on marriage

    02:18 The importance of stopping competition in relationships

    03:28 The dangers of rehearsed arguments and ego defense

    04:28 Influence of outside opinions and family on marriage

    05:42 Effective communication and understanding each other's perspectives

    07:28 Emotional intelligence and gender differences

    09:22 Killing the ego to connect emotionally

    10:14 Jessica's independence and power struggle in early marriage

    12:22 Embracing authenticity and emotional vulnerability

    14:12 Redefining strength through emotional intelligence

    15:18 The impact of ego on intimacy and sex life

    17:11 Reciprocity and unconditional love in marriage

    20:32 Addressing purity culture and past relationship influences

    22:26 Recommended reading: Ego as the Enemy by Ryan Holiday

    23:24 Closing remarks and gratitude

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    24 min
  4. Postpartum Resentment and Breaking the Divorce Cycle

    Episode 46

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    In this episode, we explore the challenges of postpartum resentment, effective communication in marriage, and breaking generational cycles of divorce.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and episode overview

    00:19 Postpartum resentment and its effects

    01:22 The importance of acknowledging feelings

    02:30 Effective communication and empathy

    04:24 Building better connection after postpartum

    06:35 Handling the roommate phase in marriage

    09:27 The importance of apologies and humility

    12:17 Understanding triggers and past trauma

    16:38 Breaking destructive family cycles

    20:24 Resentment and conflict resolution

    24:37 Healing and moving forward in marriage

    37:24 The impact of divorce on family dynamics

    43:00 Creating a healthy environment for children

    52:18 Self-compassion and personal growth

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    58 min
  5. Being Weird, Pressure of Perfection, Cussing, and Family Chaos

    Episode 45

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    This episode we share candid stories about parenting, marriage, and embracing authenticity in everyday life. From Father's Day celebrations to parenting hacks, kids wearing what they want, to accidentally cussing in front of them, this episode is a heartfelt look at life's beautiful chaos.

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    Chapters

    00:00 Father's Day Reflections

    02:47 The Chaos of Father's Day Morning

    05:44 Navigating Parenting Challenges

    08:38 The Impact of Language on Kids

    11:48 Embracing the Weirdness in Parenting

    14:34 Finding Joy in Parenting Moments

    17:33 Encouraging Authenticity in Kids

    20:15 The Importance of Being Yourself

    23:25 Creating Fun Family Moments

    28:20 Authenticity in Relationships

    32:37 The Pressure of Perfection

    38:27 Candid Moments vs. Curated Images

    45:10 The Value of Minimalism and Intentional Living

    52:14 Embracing the Hard Times

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    58 min
  6. Parenting with no help, Life's Challenges, and Puppy Parenthood

    Episode 44

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    Join us as we share the journey of new puppy parenthood, parenting without a village, and navigating life's challenges with honesty and humor. This episode offers real insights into balancing parenthood, self-care, and personal growth.

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcoming a New Family Member

    10:47 Parenting Without a Village

    24:08 Navigating the Challenges of Parenthood

    25:11 Navigating Life's Challenges Together

    28:00 The Impact of Technology on Mental Health

    29:56 Finding Balance in a Digital World

    33:20 The Journey of Parenting and Learning

    33:35 Sharing Personal Stories in Recovery

    38:43 The Importance of Authentic Voices

    41:33 Overcoming Shyness and Building Confidence

    46:54 Imprinting and Parenting Styles

    49:52 The Reality of Parenting Struggles

    52:30 A Father's Day Reflection

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    55 min
  7. The grief of losing a dog, patience, loyalty, and childhood memories

    Episode 43

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    In this episode, we talk about Max. His life, where he came from, the struggles he carried, and the impact he had on our family. Losing him has been one of the hardest things I’ve experienced, and this conversation is really about grief, love, healing, and the reminder that our time with the people and animals we love is never long enough.

    Chapters

    00:00 Facing Health Scares

    05:02 Navigating Difficult Decisions with Pets

    13:49 The Impact of Loss on Family

    32:12 Finding New Beginnings After Grief

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    1 hr
  8. Time is Love, Materialism, Breast Cancer Awareness, and Reading

    Episode 42

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    In this episode of The Tired Dad & Tired Mom Podcast, we reflected on what life has looked like after the release of my book and the emotions that come with putting something so personal into the world. We talked about parenting, public speaking, and how becoming parents changes the way we see time, grief, success, and even ourselves.

    We had a deep conversation about the fleeting nature of childhood, the sacrifices that come with raising a family, and why connection and presence matter more than material things. We also talked honestly about relationships, expectations, balancing ambition with family life, and trying to find genuine human connection in a world that can often feel transactional.

    Later in the episode, we shifted into a conversation about health, breast cancer awareness, misinformation online, lifestyle choices, supplements, and the importance of critical thinking when it comes to medical advice. We wrapped up by discussing reading, lifelong learning, emotional intelligence, and the values we hope to pass down to our children.

    As always, thank you for listening and continuing to grow with us.

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    Chapters

    00:00 Book Release Reflections

    03:14 Parenting and Public Speaking

    06:04 The Passage of Time in Parenting

    08:57 Embracing Grief in Parenting

    11:45 The Sacrifices of Parenthood

    14:40 Connection Over Materialism

    17:59 The Importance of Presence

    20:44 Navigating Relationships and Expectations

    23:42 Success vs. Family Time

    26:26 Genuine Connections in a Transactional World

    29:39 Finding Meaning in Everyday Moments

    32:40 The Illusion of Material Happiness

    35:31 Teaching Values to the Next Generation

    44:02 Navigating Breast Cancer Awareness

    47:32 Misinformation in Medical Advice

    51:24 Lifestyle Choices and Cancer Risk

    56:05 The Evolution of Health Supplements

    01:01:01 The Importance of Reading and Learning

    01:14:06 Emotional Intelligence in Parenting

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    1 hr 16 min
  9. Intimacy in Marriage

    Episode 41

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    In this episode, we open up about the ups and downs of the intimacy in our marriage and what made it better. Sharing how communication and personal choices have strengthened our bond. We also discuss the importance of instilling confidence in our daughter and the lessons we've learned about ego and showing up for our loved ones.

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    Chapters

    Introduction and Reflections

    0:00

    Co-Sleeping and Parenting Choices

    1:41

    Intimacy and Communication

    6:29

    Cannabis and Personal Choices

    14:03

    Parenting and Building Confidence

    35:44

    Ego and Personal Growth

    47:04

    Closing Thoughts and Encouragement

    51:16

    53 min
  10. The Bittersweet Journey of Parenthood

    Episode 40

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    We got so emotional on this one! Grab a tissue and join us for the most authentic, vulnerable episode to date.

    Chapters

    00:00 Navigating Parenthood and Time's Fleeting Nature

    02:36 Travel Adventures and Nostalgic Memories

    05:31 Experiences with Travel Accommodations

    08:37 Meeting Influential Figures and Overcoming Nerves

    11:21 Reflections on Personal Growth and Achievements

    14:26 Support and Validation from Unexpected Sources

    17:25 The Importance of Genuine Support in Relationships

    22:51 Navigating Parental Relationships and Boundaries

    27:19 The Emotional Journey of Parenting

    32:13 Finding Perspective in Parenting Challenges

    38:09 The Importance of Connection and Community

    43:15 Hope and Resilience in Difficult Times

    48 min
  11. It Gets Better

    Episode 39

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    This episode features a heartfelt conversation about parenting, personal growth, overcoming addiction, and the transformative power of sobriety.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Parenting Adventures

    02:48 Finding Joy in Kids' Activities

    06:04 The Challenges of Parenting Young Children

    09:01 Navigating Emotional Development in Kids

    11:38 Building Strong Parent-Child Relationships

    14:50 The Role of Grandparents in Parenting

    17:31 Nostalgia and Family Connections

    19:35 Full Circle Moments: From Austin to Podcasting

    24:32 Struggles with Addiction and Mental Health

    32:42 The Hidden Life of an Addict

    34:32 The Journey to Sobriety and Self-Discovery

    40 min
  12. A Safe Home, Real Community, and Showing Empathy

    Episode 38

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    (00:00) Introduction—Setting the tone with real talk on parenting and life

    (02:04) The significance of home as a safe space for kids and the importance of emotional support

    (08:55) Shifting parenting styles and the rise of modern, empathetic approaches

    (11:29) Understanding bullies and their backgrounds; inner child perspectives

    (15:09) Road rage and everyday scenarios as expressions of personal struggles

    (17:44) The lessons from martial arts: self-control, humility, and true strength

    (21:07) Discussing martial arts levels and the benefits of consistently practicing Jujitsu

    (24:38) The humorous side of martial arts practice—blue belts and playful competitiveness

    (36:55) Reflections on community, friendships, and the idyllic outdoor lifestyle in Florida

    (42:18) The impact of environment and seasonal changes on mental health

    (43:42) Time zones and daylight hours—how location shapes daily life

    (45:14) Relationship insights—comparing past loves with current partners

    (52:30) The evolution of skateboarding culture—from outsider activity to Olympic sport

    (55:27) Upcoming podcast guest appearances and personal milestones

    58 min
  13. Mental Health, Social Media, and Family Life

    Episode 37

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    In this episode, Jess and I open up about our experiences with mental health and the realities of raising kids in a social media-driven world. We share our personal struggles, what we’re learning along the way, and why authenticity, boundaries, and staying connected as a family matter more than ever.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Introduction: Parenting, mental health, and honesty
    00:19 – Jess shares her ADHD diagnosis journey
    01:24 – Childhood experiences and managing symptoms
    02:36 – Family reactions to the diagnosis
    03:59 – High school years and organization struggles
    04:57 – Social pressure and its impact on parenting
    06:28 – Illness and canceled spring break plans
    08:54 – Embracing imperfect family moments
    10:20 – Spring break highlights and simple joys
    12:47 – Parenting in a social media-driven world
    15:13 – Kids, YouTube, and consumerism concerns
    18:49 – Setting boundaries and protecting childhood
    23:09 – Mental health and excessive phone use
    26:31 – Addiction, recovery, and seeking help
    39:00 – Supporting loved ones through struggles
    44:01 – Kindness, community, and reducing screen time
    44:36 – Healthier alternatives to social media
    45:39 – Final thoughts and encouragement

    46 min
  14. Friendships After Kids, Discipline, and You're Not Doing As Bad As You Think

    Episode 36

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    00:00 - Welcome and episode overview
    00:18 - How parenting can isolate social life
    01:10 - The impact of sobriety and limited social opportunities
    02:09 - Longing for female friendship and deep connection
    03:07 - Recalling pre-parenthood friendships and their depth
    03:45 - Winter isolation and planning spontaneous meetups
    04:21 - The importance of informal hangouts and neighborhood bonds
    04:52 - Building new friendships without a long shared history
    05:03 - Challenges of starting over socially in adulthood
    06:44 - Men’s struggle with connection, interests, and shared hobbies
    07:43 - Common male pursuits: exercise, golf, food, and hunting
    08:50 - The cultural differences in interests and hobbies
    09:04 - Parenting phase differences and social opportunities with young children
    10:24 - Male loneliness epidemic and emotional health
    11:51 - The effect of fulfilled childhood friendships on current loneliness
    12:49 - Recognizing loneliness and seasonal depression
    13:25 - The tendency to isolate and burnout management
    14:28 - The need for planned adult outings and social planning
    15:38 - Moving out of toddler survival mode into a more balanced phase
    16:25 - The joys of children’s self-expression and growth
    17:14 - Balancing sports, commitments, and family priorities
    18:08 - Age and interest alignment in extracurricular activities
    19:08 - Debating sports legends and cultural icons
    20:46 - The emotional significance of witnessing childhood milestones
    23:44 - Parenting moments, memories, and the fleeting nature of childhood routines
    28:23 - Recognizing and celebrating children’s independence and growth
    29:29 - The influence of children’s communication and emotional development
    33:05 - Teaching children life skills like gratitude and boundaries
    34:30 - The importance of modeling good behavior, not just compliance
    35:42 - The emotional depth of parenting and self-regulation
    36:47 - Continuing to show up and care despite fatigue
    37:04 - Exciting announcement: pre-ordering the host’s book, special incentives, and a playlist
    38:03 - Closing remarks and gratitude for listeners

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    38 min
  15. Your Partners Inner Child, Insecurity, and The Future of Our Children

    Episode 35

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    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Parenting and Marriage Dynamics

    02:54 The Impact of Childhood on Adult Relationships

    05:35 Empathy and Understanding in Marriage

    08:38 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence

    11:43 Navigating Financial Dynamics in Relationships

    14:50 The Role of Fathers in Family Dynamics

    17:37 Men's Mental Health and Loneliness

    20:14 Breaking Down Gender Stereotypes

    23:33 The Importance of Open Communication

    26:33 Raising Emotionally Intelligent Children

    29:16 The Role of Emotional Intelligence in Parenting

    32:11 Confronting Insecurities in Relationships

    35:11 The Power of Conversation in Relationships

    38:20 Creating a Better Future for Our Children

    41:15 Conclusion and Call to Action

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    52 min
  16. Gilmore Girls, Modern Dads, Adderall and Sharing The Mental Load

    Episode 34

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    Another conversation of stuff consuming our lives. The Gilmore Girls Tour, Adderall and does it help or is it just drugs? My audiobook recording experience, modern dads, and more!

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Studio Tour

    02:57 Exploring the Warner Brothers Studio Tour

    05:49 Recording the Audiobook Experience

    11:33 Insights on Music and Nashville Studios

    17:34 The Journey of Writing and Parenting

    23:38 Final Thoughts on the Book and Its Impact

    26:36 Exploring Literature and Personal Connections

    28:27 The Journey of Writing and Parenthood

    30:08 The Importance of Fatherhood and Unique Perspectives

    33:55 Candid Moments and Self-Perception

    34:23 Navigating Mental Health and Medication

    38:55 Understanding ADHD and Its Impact

    42:18 Finding Joy in Dance and Self-Identity

    44:18 Balancing Parenthood and Personal Needs

    46:12 The Modern Dad's Role in Family Dynamics

    55:06 Partnership in Marriage and Parenting

    59 min
  17. Uncomfortable Conversations

    Episode 33

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    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Parenting and Marriage

    02:02 Uncomfortable Conversations with Kids

    05:05 Sharing Personal Stories and Mistakes

    10:23 The Impact of Parental Vulnerability

    12:10 Navigating Puberty and Parent-Child Relationships

    17:35 The Consequences of Naivety and Trust

    24:18 Creating Safe Spaces for Open Dialogue

    30:02 The Importance of Healing for Parents

    34:28 Managing Household Responsibilities

    49:42 Teamwork in Marriage and Parenting

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    52 min
  18. We Need More Conversations

    Episode 32

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    In this episode of the Tired Dad and Tired Mom Podcast, Jessica and I talk life.

    We touch on winter weather, family trips we already miss while we are still in them, and our love for reading, not just for knowledge but for perspective. We talk about why it matters to understand how other people see the world, even when we do not fully agree.

    We get into money too. Living below your means. Being intentional. Building a life that actually feels good to come home to instead of chasing more just to keep up.

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome to the Podcast

    00:11 Winter Weather and School Days

    03:14 Life in Cold Climates

    05:18 Life on Mackinac Island

    09:54 Exploring Northern Michigan

    12:22 Family Vacations and Experiences

    20:17 Book Reviews and Recommendations

    29:27 Reading Preferences and Audiobooks

    39:04 Conversations and Understanding

    46:22 Living Below Your Means

    01:00:43 Financial Wisdom and Future Planning

    01:11:14 Unspoken Rules in Marriage

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    1 hr 12 min
  19. Nihilist Penguin, Being Weird, Deep Thinking, and Doom Scrolling

    Episode 31

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    In this episode, Jess and I talk about life in the middle of chaos, from getting snowed in to helping our kids process the loss of a pet. We also dive into the “Nihilist Penguin” idea and what it says about identity, social media, and mental health.

    At the core, we’re just trying to raise kids who feel safe being themselves, in a home built on acceptance, creativity, and love. We’re figuring it out as we go.

    00:00 Weathering the Storm

    05:38 Navigating Pet Loss

    11:42 The Nihilist Penguin

    17:34 Raising Weird Kids

    23:44 The Impact of Social Media on Parenting

    29:36 Creating a Positive Environment for Kids

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    46 min
  20. Learning As We Go

    Episode 30

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    In this conversation, I talk about the everyday stuff that makes up family life. From trying to figure out meals, to dealing with kids getting sick, to what we’re watching at night and even the books we read in high school. It’s a mix of random moments and real life.

    We get into personal growth and how knowing things doesn’t mean much if you don’t actually execute. I share what the process of writing this book has been like, the doubts, the motivation, and why I felt called to do it in the first place.

    We also reflect on marriage, relationships, and how everything shifts when you have a family. At the end of it, it comes back to chasing your dreams, doing the work, and hopefully setting the example for your kids to do the same.

    Chapters

    00:00 Lunch Break Conversations

    02:53 Family Dynamics and Meal Prep

    05:49 Sickness and Family Care

    09:00 Thrillers and Entertainment Preferences

    11:52 Book Recommendations and Reading Preferences

    14:51 High School Literature and Its Impact

    17:44 Negative Influences and Overcoming Challenges

    20:41 Personal Growth and Relationships

    23:40 Execution Over Knowledge

    26:43 The Importance of Following Dreams

    29:29 Parenting and Marriage Dynamics

    32:36 Self-Help and Personal Development

    35:31 The Journey of Writing a Book

    38:34 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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    1 hr 4 min