Trap Talk From The Back Fence

Part 2 of the Listener Extravaganza, our listener Q&A special. Jon reads more of the questions you sent in on Facebook and by email, and Rick and Zach answer them.

Brenden Mowen starts it off: is there really a quality difference between a Browning and a premium gun? Zach puts a Rolex next to a Seiko and says the biggest difference is the trigger, the same pull weight every time. Rick will hit 500,000 registered targets this year, about 300,000 of them with a K80. For him the difference is longevity, and the right gun comes down to your budget and how many targets you want to shoot. Marlin Stutzman asks why Rick shoots Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics 1165 8s instead of White Rhino. Rick likes it for singles and the first shot of doubles, and calls it the best singles shell out there.

Then seeing the target and moving the gun. George Lee asks if gun speed changes between singles and handicap. Rick says his doesn't: he matches the speed of the target. Dennis Quimper asks about swing through lead, and that turns into a talk about chronic gun stoppers. Rick's advice: stop overthinking it, because smooth is fast.

Clayton Gross loses the bird in the glare under the lights at the 27. Rick looks at the front edge and top edge of the target, Zach explains why the bead looks like a golf ball at night, and they compare the lenses they wear. Zac Brody asks what causes a flinch and what helps besides lighter loads or a release trigger. Curt Corey wants the best way to learn a double release trigger. Ron Seeley Jr. asks how many practice targets they shoot a year, and Zach passes on what Dave Kelly told him a practice trap is for.

Got a question for the guys? Send it to askus@traptalkpodcast.com. Missed Part 1? It's Special Episode 10.

Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:42 Premium guns and Rick's Fiocchi shells
23:17 Gun speed, lead and swing through
41:00 Night shooting, flinching, release triggers and practice

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This one's a listener Q&A special. You sent your questions in on Facebook, and Jon reads them to Rick and Zach in Part 1 of the Listener Extravaganza.

Rick catches up on a couple of weeks on the road. In West Texas he took a scimitar oryx at about 200 yards with one shot, and Joe Charnigo broke four clay targets in a row with a 9 mm pistol. At Sporting Clays Nationals, his 12th, Rick started with a 46 out of 75 on the orange and finished with a 70 on the red. Then the first two questions: how many ways can you pronounce David Heeringa's name, and pineapple on pizza, yes or no? Rick says no. Zach says it's flatbread.

Erik Cobb kicks off the gun fit questions: where do you start on a new gun with an adjustable rib and comb? Rick gives his two ways to find point of impact, a patterning board with the gun locked in or straightaways from post 3, and says to tighten the choke up so you can see where the gun's shooting. Bryan Smith asks about stacked beads, and Zach explains stacked versus figure eight. DJ Button asks what you adjust when you set a gun up for handicap and then learn singles with it. Rick dials it in at the 27 first and likes a 70 to 80 percent point of impact.

Josh Vonsprecken asks about cheek slap. Rick says check the pitch first, with washers in the pad, and tells how he shot through cuts for 20 plus years until Jimmy at Wenig built him a stock that fit. Zach walks through the wall test for pitch. John Link is 6 foot 8 and asks if a custom stock would help. Rick says he definitely needs one. Terry Delanty asks where a gun's balance point should sit relative to the hinge pin.

They wrap up with Trap Talk's Wednesday Night Lights shoot at the 78th Nevada State Shoot: $20 to enter, a free custom towel, buckles for four yardage groups and three categories, and a shootoff for 10 ounces of silver from Ron Prescott of Mid State Precious Metals.

Got a question for the guys? Send it to askus@traptalkpodcast.com. Part 2 is out next Friday.

Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:44 Rick's hunt, Sporting Clays Nationals and gun setup
24:16 Stacked beads and setting up for handicap
39:54 Cheek slap, pitch and gun fit
58:52 Custom stocks, balance and Wednesday Night Lights

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Trapshooting tips for the new target year. Rick and Zach reset for next season: practice with a purpose, planning your shoots, getting your gun set up right and setting goals that stack.

No guest this week, just hosts Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini on getting more out of next season than you got out of the last one.

They start with the reset. Rick on not dwelling on a bad season, and Zach on how putting the shotgun down for three or four months can fix problems like moving on the call. From there it's practice with a purpose: set the trap on one angle until you feel good, then go back to oscillation so you don't pick up anticipation. And footwork in doubles, where Zach says the feet matter as much as almost anything.

Then the planning talk. Book your shoots, flights and hotels early, and squad with people who are committed to going. Rick's shameless plug: all the shoots are on the SOS Clays app. Plus getting your gun set up right, making small tweaks instead of big ones, and Rick's three kinds of goals: short term, long term for the year, and the bucket list.

The back half is goals that stack. Five straight, then 10, 15, 20 and 25, then four 25s together. Keep a journal, write your goals down, and when a shoot doesn't go your way, reflect on it instead of getting mad. You get out of it what you put in.

Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:28 The reset, practice, footwork and trip planning
24:35 Off-season prep, gun setup and goals
43:49 Journals, effort and what's next

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From stepping away from competitive trapshooting to becoming a Southwestern Grand Handicap Champion and earning his first ATA Open All-American Team selection, Samuel "Sam" Leiendecker has a story built on determination, perseverance, and a genuine love for the sport.

In Episode 194 of Trap Talk, hosts Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini sit down with Sam to talk about his journey from growing up in Arizona to shooting collegiate national championships at Lindenwood University, serving as a U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer, and returning to competitive trapshooting stronger than ever.

Sam recently captured the Southwestern Grand Handicap Championship, breaking a 98 and winning a pressure-packed shootoff against Jason Crowsey. With multiple 200 straights in singles, impressive handicap performances, and his first All-American Team selection, Sam is proving that hard work and persistence pay off.

But there's much more to his story than trophies.

Sam shares how joining the U.S. Customs and Border Protection National Marksmanship Unit helped reignite his competitive shooting career. He also talks about representing the United States at the World Police and Fire Games, where he won High Overall gold in 2023 and returned to earn silver in 2025.

The conversation takes a few fun turns, including Sam's unforgettable trip to the Hawaii State Shoot, where he swept the nonresident trophies and broke a 200 straight!

In this episode:

• Winning the Southwestern Grand Handicap Championship
• Making the ATA Open All-American Team for the first time
• From Lindenwood collegiate shooter to national-level competitor
• Balancing a career in law enforcement with competitive trapshooting
• Representing the USA at the World Police and Fire Games
• Shooting the Hawaii State Shoot and sweeping the nonresident trophies
• The mental game: focusing on the process instead of the outcome
• Handicap shooting techniques, hold points, foot positioning, and gun setup
• Why having fun and surrounding yourself with good people can improve your scores
• The friendships and community that make trapshooting special

Sam also shares some valuable technical advice for handicap shooters, including how he sets up his Perazzi, adjusts his comb, establishes his natural point of aim, and positions himself for hard-angle targets.

Whether you're chasing your first 25 straight, working toward an All-American Team selection, or just love spending time on the trapline, this episode is packed with great stories, shooting advice, and a reminder of why we all love this sport.

Don't give up. Keep shooting. And remember to enjoy the journey.

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The 2026 season is done but Zach Nannini and Richard Marshall Jr. still have plenty to talk about.

In Episode 193 of Trap Talk, Zach and Ricky recap the 2026 Cardinal Classic at the Cardinal Shooting Center and break down what made this year's shoot stand out. With more than $73,000 in trophies, prizes and giveaways, gold and silver on the line, flats of shells, unique trophies, youth prizes and a DT11 giveaway, the Cardinal Classic made a serious investment in giving shooters more value.

Ricky walks through the major championship results, including a huge week from Joey Charnigo, Austin Jacob's Handicap Championship win, Richard's runner-up finish in the Overall, and standout performances across the classes and categories.

The guys also get into a bigger conversation about the future of major trapshooting events. With shooters having more choices than ever about where to spend their time and money, what makes a shoot worth traveling to? Gold and silver, added prizes, free meals, special events and a great overall experience are becoming a bigger part of that equation.

They also discuss whether the ATA target year should end immediately after the Grand American and what that could mean for major shoots like the Cardinal Classic and Heartland Grand.

Plus, Ricky and Zach look ahead to the Nevada State Shoot, the Autumn Grand, the upcoming 2027 season and maybe even finding a little time to put the trap guns away and chase some birds.

Whether you were at the Cardinal Classic or missed it this year, this episode gives you an inside look at one of the biggest shoots following the Grand American and a bigger discussion about where competitive trapshooting is headed.

**Trap Talk From the Back Fence**
Hosted by Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini.

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On Episode 192 of Trap Talk, Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini sit down with Randy Moeller, the new Executive Director of the Amateur Trapshooting Association, for a wide-ranging conversation about his career in the shooting sports and his vision for the future of trapshooting.

Randy’s journey started on the trap field, but it certainly didn’t stop there. Over the years, his career has included stops with USA Shooting, the NRA, Remington, the MidwayUSA Foundation, and other major parts of the shooting sports industry before ultimately bringing him to the ATA.

Randy shares stories from that journey, the people and experiences that shaped his career, and what he learned along the way about growing shooting sports, building strong organizations, supporting youth programs, and serving shooters.

Richard and Zach also dig into Randy’s goals for the ATA, including strategies for attracting new shooters, improving communication with members, strengthening the relationship between the ATA and its shooters, and preserving the history and traditions that have made trapshooting a lifetime sport.

The conversation also looks at the importance of beginner and youth programs, the role gun clubs play in growing participation, organizational leadership and succession planning, and the need to better tell the story of trapshooting to current and future generations.

Randy puts it simply during the conversation: “Treat the shooters like customers.”

This episode is a chance to get to know Randy Moeller, understand the road that brought him to the ATA, and hear directly from the man now helping guide the organization into its next chapter.

KEY TOPICS

• Randy Moeller’s background and journey through the shooting sports
• His career with USA Shooting, the NRA, Remington, and the MidwayUSA Foundation
• His goals and vision for the ATA
• Strategies for growing trapshooting participation
• The importance of youth and beginner shooting programs
• Improving ATA member engagement and communication
• Supporting gun clubs and the shooting community
• Preserving trapshooting history and its legacy
• Organizational leadership and succession planning
• Building on small wins and improving the shooter experience

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction to the episode and guest
02:33 Randy Moeller’s start in shooting sports
09:33 Transition from shooter to industry professional
21:37 Goals and vision for the ATA
34:39 Building a strong organizational foundation
50:23 Small wins and improvements at the ATA
01:00:07 Engaging members and telling the sport’s story
01:08:18 Closing thoughts and future outlook

Trap Talk Podcast — Episode 192
Guest: Randy Moeller, Executive Director of the ATA

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**BETTER ON YOUTUBE** Zach takes Shot Tracker to the line for singles and handicap and then joins Ricky in the studio to break down the results!

In Part 2 of our conversation with Take Aim Technologies, the makers of Shot Tracker, Zach Nannini heads out to shoot both disciplines and put some fresh data on the screen.

Back at the Trap Talk studio in Sparta, Illinois, Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach review the shooting data and analysis from Zach’s session. Follow along as they work through his singles and handicap results, connecting what happened on the trap field with what Shot Tracker recorded.

If you’ve been curious about seeing Shot Tracker in action, this episode gives you a firsthand look at the shooting and the discussion that follows.

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**This episode has video cut aways of Zach testing the Shot Tracker. It will be best enjoyed on Youtube!

Zach took Shot Tracker to the shooting line—now it’s time to see what the data reveals!

In Episode 190 of Trap Talk, Richard “Ricky” Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini sit down with Jim and Robert from Take Aim Technologies, the makers of Shot Tracker, at the Trap Talk studio in Sparta, Illinois.

After Zach heads out to shoot with Shot Tracker, all four gather to review his shooting data and break down the analysis. It’s a firsthand look at Zach’s session, with the team behind the technology helping explain what the results show.

From the field to the studio, we’re connecting the shooting experience with the data behind it—and this is just Part 1!

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Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini sit down to recap another incredible Grand in Sparta, Illinois — from the biggest moments and memorable stories to the highs, the pressure, and everything that makes the Grand American unlike anything else in trapshooting.

And Rick had one heck of a Grand.

Richard walks away from the 127th Grand American with TWO Grand Ring wins, and the guys break down those victories, what it took to get them done, and some of the moments behind the scores that you don’t always get to hear about.

Rick and Zach also look back at the people, the competition, the shoot-offs, the stories, and some of their favorite moments from another unforgettable Grand American.

If you love trapshooting and the Grand American, this is one you don’t want to miss.

🎯 TWO Grand Ring wins for Richard Marshall Jr.
🏆 127th Grand American recap
🔥 Big moments, shoot-offs & highlights
🎙️ Stories from behind the scenes
💥 And plenty of Trap Talk from the Back Fence

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Trapshooting legends Robert “Bob” Munson and Lou Ann “Annie” Munson join Richard and Zach for a special episode of Trap Talk From the Back Fence, recorded live during the 127th Grand American at the Trap Talk Studio in Building 106.

Bob and Annie have spent more than five decades traveling the country, winning major championships, representing Minnesota, and setting a standard of excellence few shooters have ever matched.

Bob’s remarkable career includes hundreds of 100 straights, numerous Minnesota championships, the 1982 Grand American Clay Target Championship, and the 1983 Grand American High All-Around Championship with a 397x400.

Annie became one of the early women to reach the 27-yard line, earned repeated All-American honors, and captured major victories including the 1984 Grand American Ladies High-Over-All and the 1979 Women’s Doubles Championship.

Together, Bob and Annie have won more husband-and-wife championships than anyone can accurately count. Their accomplishments are extraordinary, but their stories, memories, and perspective on the sport are what make this conversation truly special.

This episode is a chance to sit down with two people who did not simply compete in trapshooting. They helped define an era of it.

📍 Recorded live at the World Shooting and Recreational Complex in Sparta, Illinois
🎙️ Trap Talk Studio — Building 106
🏆 127th Grand American World Trapshooting Championships

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Rory Lee may be young, but he already carries himself with the maturity, focus, and composure of a seasoned competitor.

The up-and-coming trapshooter from Atlanta, Georgia, sits down with Ricky and Zach to talk about his journey into the sport, the goals he is working toward, and some of the technical details behind his game. Rory has jumped into trapshooting with both feet, embracing not only the competition, but also the people and community that make the sport special.

Hear how Rory got started, what keeps him motivated, how he approaches competition, and where he hopes trapshooting will take him next.

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Michael Gates joins Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini live in the Trap Talk Studio at the 127th Grand American.

Michael’s rise through competitive trapshooting has been fast, but it has not happened by accident. After beginning to register ATA targets in 2022, the Oklahoma shooter competed in 177 events, registered 17,650 targets and won more than 50 trophies during the 2024 season.

At last years Grand American, Michael had broke an incredible 998 out of 1,000 singles targets. He also became the Junior World Clay Target Champion after breaking 200/200 and then going another 349 targets in the shoot-off. During that same rapid climb, Michael advanced from the 21.5-yard line all the way back to the 27-yard line.

Now a member of the 2026 ATA Junior First Team All-American Team, Michael sits down with the guys to share his story, talk about his success on trapshooting’s biggest stage and discuss the goals he is still chasing.

Get to know one of the brightest young competitors in the game and hear what has driven his remarkable rise through the ranks.

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Episode 185 comes to you LIVE from the Trap Talk Studio at the 127th Grand American, and this one features a brand-new AIM Grand Champion.

Tyler Marshall sits down with Zach and Richard after winning the AIM Grand Doubles Championship to talk about his journey so far in trapshooting, shooting style and goals for the future.

There’s nothing quite like talking to a champion while the Grand is still happening around you!

If you love trapshooting, the Grand American, and hearing directly from the shooters putting up big scores, this episode is for you.

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Steven “Magoo” Margherio has been stacking doubles 100s like firewood—and he joins Trap Talk for Episode 184 to break down the incredible run.

Magoo sits down with Zach Nannini and Richard Marshall Jr. after running all 300 doubles targets at the Ohio State Shoot and following it up with another 200 straight at the Iowa State Shoot. He shares the small adjustment that helped take his doubles game to another level and explains exactly how he approaches both targets.

We get into:

• Running 300 straight doubles at the Ohio State Shoot
• Winning the 2026 Iowa State Doubles Championship
• The small move that improved his first-target breaks
• Why true spot shooting was limiting his consistency
• His hold point, visual pickup and transition to the second target
• Breaking two handicap 100s at the Grand American
• Switching between his single barrel and over-under
• Finding consistency from the 27-yard line
• His goals heading into the Grand American
• Shooting for the Lindenwood University shotgun team

Magoo is a four-time All-American, a two-time Grand Slam shooter and one of the hottest doubles shooters in the game right now. With hundreds piling up across the country, he enters the Grand with confidence and some serious momentum.

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Florida junior shooter Cody Meredith has been on an absolute tear—and in Episode 183, we sit down with one of trapshooting’s fastest-rising young competitors.

Cody joins Zach Nannini and Richard Marshall Jr. to talk about his journey from shooting hand-thrown clay targets on a family vacation to becoming the 2022 Rookie of the Year, a three-time All-American, Florida State Singles Champion and one of the hottest handicap shooters in the country.

We get into:

• Why Cody believes trapshooting is 95% mental
• How he gained more than 10 targets on his singles average in one year
• His practice routine and one-box-per-post training method
• The mindset that helped him dominate from the 27-yard line
• Why he moved away from spot shooting doubles
• His Kolar setup, hold points, chokes and ammunition
• Chasing the final legs of his ATA Grand Slam
• Setting goals to beat the entire field—not just his category

Cody is only 17, but his confidence, work ethic and understanding of the game are already well beyond his years. Keep an eye on this young man—his first 100 from the 27 and his first 100 in doubles may be right around the corner.

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We recap the action, atmosphere, and highlights from one of the biggest trapshooting events of the summer. Chrissy from Krieghoff stops by to talk shotguns, shooters, and everything happening at the shoot, and Greg from SOS Clays joins us with the latest from SOSClays.com and ShootScoreBoard.com.

It is a true on-location episode packed with shoot talk, industry updates, familiar faces, and plenty of conversation from the Cardinal Center.

Be sure to like the video, subscribe to Trap Talk, and let us know in the comments how your Ohio State Shoot went!

Featured in this episode:
• Ohio State Shoot recap
• Live from the Cardinal Center
• Chrissy from Krieghoff
• Greg from SOS Clays
• Trapshooting news, stories, and shoot-week conversation

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The summer shooting season is in full swing!

This week on Trap Talk, Richard Marshall Jr. and Zach Nannini recap the Ohio State Shoot, discuss the opening days of the Wisconsin State Shoot, and look ahead to the biggest event in trapshooting—the Grand American.

They also dive into one of the most overlooked aspects of improving your scores: the fundamentals. From proper gun mount and balance to eliminating arm shooting and building consistency, Ricky and Zach explain how small adjustments can make a huge difference on the trap field.

In this episode:

Ohio State Shoot championship recap
Wisconsin State Shoot updates
Tyler Honnold's Grand Slam
Championship mindset and staying competitive
Gun mount, balance, and movement fundamentals
Coaching insights that can immediately improve your scores
Grand American preview and Trap Talk Listener Appreciation Party

Whether you're chasing your first 25 straight or your next state championship, this episode is packed with practical advice you can take to the range.

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The tips keep coming.

In this second Trap Talk compilation, we dive back into the archives for more incredible trapshooting advice from champion shooters, coaches, industry experts, and lifelong competitors.

These are the moments that shooters replay over and over — practical advice that can help you improve focus, confidence, consistency, and scores on the trap field.

Trapshooting is built on tradition, experience, and passing knowledge down to the next generation. That’s exactly what this series is about.

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We pulled together some of the BEST coaching moments, mental game advice, target tips, and competition insights from past episodes of the Trap Talk Podcast.

Whether you're a brand-new shooter or chasing championship scores, there’s something in here that can help your game.

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In Episode 180 of the Trap Talk Podcast, Zach Nannini and Richard Marshall Jr. catch up in the middle of a packed trapshooting season and break down the road ahead — from Vernal and the Western Grand to the Ohio State Shoot, Iowa, the Grand American, Heartland Grand, Nevada State Shoot, and more.

The main focus of this episode is the Golden West Grand, hosted at Livermore/Pleasanton Rod & Gun Club. Zach and Ricky talk through the history, the nostalgia, the green targets, the shoot layout, the champions, the shoot-offs, and the gold coin buckles that helped make this year’s event feel special.

They also get into a bigger topic for the sport: how local clubs can create one big annual shoot that shooters look forward to every year. Whether it’s added money, silver, gold, special trophies, dinners, or just a well-run event with good people, these are the things that keep trapshooting exciting.

Plus, the guys talk about Trap Talk’s plans for the Grand American, including new merch, the Grand party, free giveaways, and seeing everyone at the Trap Talk Studio in Sparta.

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