Podcast

Upright Citizens

Music, Music Commentary

Upright Citizens is the podcast where two professional bassists - Bob DeBoo and Reuben Rogers - talk music from the bottom up. Every episode breaks down a real technique, a real recording, or a real story from a career on the road and in the studio, so you walk away with something you can actually put into your hands that day.

Expect deep dives on walking bass lines, swing, groove, and tone, interviews with legendary artists, road stories that are actually funny, and straight talk on practicing and listening better. Whether you play upright, electric, or just love the low end, this is where two bass nerds figure it out.

New episodes monthly, in audio and video.

Episodes
133
Releases
Monthly
Typical length
19 min
On air since
2021
Latest episode
1 day ago

Episodes

133 episodes, newest first

  1. Can You Name These Bassists by Ear? (I Couldn't)

    Season 1, Episode 133

    Show notes

    Reuben Rogers plays three tracks. Bob DeBoo has to name the bassist on each one by ear, with nothing but a few hints. He went 1 for 3. Can you beat him?

    Play along: pause before each reveal (07:07, 13:29, 21:24) and make your guess.

    Along the way: how pros describe what they hear before they can put a name on it (tone, note length, strings, attack), why bass is the hardest instrument in the band to pick out, how one bassist's sound changed completely in 14 years, and the pickup that made a whole era of jazz bass sound alike. Every great bassist got that way by listening to other bassists. Here are three names worth knowing.

    Coming up in a future episode: Bob gets his turn to stump Reuben.

    Click here to watch a video of this episode.

    (00:00) Can You Pick Them Out by Ear?
    (00:51) The Rules (and a Terrible Pun)
    (02:02) Bassist #1: First Listen
    (03:27) Warm, Dark, and Detailed: Bob's First Read
    (04:49) Hint: "Guilty by Association"
    (06:06) Clue #2: Talk About Broad Notes
    (07:07) Bassist #1 Revealed
    (09:16) Bassist #2: First Listen
    (11:37) Gut Strings or Pirazzis? Bob Reads the Tone
    (12:27) Clue #2: Is It a Joe?
    (13:29) Bassist #2 Revealed
    (14:24) Haden's Sound, Holland's Dexterity
    (16:48) Bassist #3: "An Elder Statesman"
    (18:23) Not the Sound You Know Him For
    (19:39) Clue #2: Fast-Forward 14 Years
    (20:41) Ron Carter? Rufus Reid? Last Guess
    (21:24) Bassist #3 Revealed
    (23:07) The Pickup That Defined an Era
    (24:10) The Takeaway: Deep Listening

    SPOILERS BELOW: the answers and every track in the episode

    Bassist #1: Palle Danielsson
    • "Pure & Simple" — John Taylor, Palle Danielsson, Peter Erskine (ECM)
    • Keith Jarrett, Belonging (ECM, 1974) — with Jan Garbarek and Jon Christensen

    Bassist #2: Scott Colley
    • "Don't Rise" — Koppel Colley Blade Collective, Perspective (2023)
    • "Ugly Beauty" + a second cut — Scott Colley, This Place, with Chris Potter and Bill Stewart

    Bassist #3: Buster Williams
    • Herbie Hancock, The Prisoner (Blue Note, 1969)
    • Kenny Barron Trio, Green Chimneys (Criss Cross, 1983) — with Ben Riley

    Also mentioned: Bass to Infinity (the Buster Williams documentary) and Scott Colley's The Magic Line.

    ABOUT OPEN STUDIO

    As the premier online jazz education platform, with an ever-expanding course library and 20,000+ members, Open Studio (OS) has everything you need to excel and thrive on your jazz journey.

    Featuring everything from beginner to advanced lessons, engaging courses from A-list instructors, step-by-step curriculum, real-time classes and a thriving and incredibly supportive community, OS is the perfect platform to level up your jazz playing, whether you're a total beginner, or an advanced pro-level improvisor.

    Bob and Reuben both have their own in-depth courses on Open Studio, alongside Masters like Christian McBride and Ron Carter — dig deeper into everything you hear on this show.

    Try OS Membership today! → https://osjazz.link/about

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    25 min
  2. Only Have 15 Minutes? What Pro Bassists Actually Practice

    Season 1, Episode 132

    Show notes

    You’ve got 15 minutes. Maybe it’s a borrowed bass in a new hall before soundcheck. Maybe it’s your own bass at home, with life about to catch up with you. Either way: what do you actually practice?

    Bob DeBoo and Reuben Rogers open with a live Ray Brown Trio recording of "St. Louis Blues," proof that a great bassist sounds like himself on any instrument, then share Ray Brown stories from a UNT master class and the festival circuit. Reuben walks through how he gets to know an unfamiliar upright fast: finding his reference notes, singing intervals before he plays them, and targeting notes without cheating on intonation. Bob breaks down the melodic triads warm-up he uses to learn a new fingerboard, and how hearing ahead works on electric bass too. Plus: why the bow is its own instrument (after a tour of 25 cities, 25 basses, and 25 bows), and three rules for making any 15-minute practice session count.

    Click here to watch a video of this episode.

    (00:00) What Do You Practice in 15 Minutes?
    (00:51) The 15-Minute Challenge
    (01:26) Listen to This: Ray Brown Trio
    (02:52) Why Ray Brown Sounds Like Ray Brown
    (03:57) Ray Brown's UNT Master Class
    (05:14) Ray Brown Practiced Every Day
    (06:28) New Bass? Find Your Reference Note
    (08:54) Ear Training: Sing Your Intervals
    (09:53) Target Notes: Don't Cheat Intonation
    (11:20) Hearing Ahead on Electric Bass
    (11:58) Melodic Triads Warm-Up Exercise
    (16:32) Be Intentional With 15 Minutes
    (17:24) One Tour: 25 Basses, 25 Bows
    (18:37) Short Sessions, Long-Term Reps
    (19:19) Takeaways: Focus, Sound, Be Realistic

    ABOUT OPEN STUDIO
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    Bob and Reuben both have their own in-depth bass courses on OpenStudioJazz.com, alongside Masters like Christian McBride and Ron Carter - dig deeper into everything you hear on this show.

    As the premier online jazz education platform, with an ever-expanding course library and 20,000+ members, Open Studio (OS) has everything you need to excel and thrive on your jazz journey.

    Featuring everything from beginner to advanced lessons, engaging courses from A-list instructors, step-by-step curriculum, real-time classes and a thriving and incredibly supportive community, OS is the perfect platform to level up your jazz playing, whether you’re a total beginner, or an advanced pro-level improvisor.

    Try OS Membership today! → https://osjazz.link/about

    Click here to view the episode transcript.

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    20 min
  3. How to Learn New Music Fast (And Make It Sound Like You've Always Known It!)

    Season 1, Episode 131

    Show notes

    You got the call. The music is deep, the deadline is short - you've got maybe a day, maybe a car ride, before you're expected to play it like you've known it for years.

    In Episode 2 of Upright Citizens, Bob and Reuben break down how professional musicians actually learn new music fast: not through some trick, but through a specific way of listening. They react to Ulysses Owens Jr.'s "Better Days," Bob tells the story of learning an entire live set on a six-hour drive to Fayetteville with zero charts, Reuben tells his own story of jumping into Gerald Clayton's trio on a day's notice, and they break down the exact order of what to listen for - form, feel, key, and the lines that actually matter - plus why it's okay to mess it up along the way.

    Click here to watch a video of this episode.

    (00:00) Cold open
    (00:22) Welcome to Upright Citizens
    (00:38) Today's topic: learning fast
    (01:02) Listen to This: Ulysses Owens
    (02:46) A word from Open Studio
    (03:09) Bob's story: the Fayetteville gig
    (06:24) How to listen: intent and repetition
    (07:27) Order of importance: form, feel, key
    (08:27) Know just enough to let go
    (09:07) Reuben's story: the Gerald Clayton gig
    (12:33) Deep listening in the moment
    (16:09) The non-negotiable takeaway
    (16:41) Learning from a person vs. the page
    (18:10) The 3 keys to learning fast
    (19:18) Close

    ABOUT OPEN STUDIO
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    Bob and Reuben both have their own in-depth bass courses on OpenStudioJazz.com, alongside Masters like Christian McBride and Ron Carter - dig deeper into everything you hear on this show.

    As the premier online jazz education platform, with an ever-expanding course library and 20,000+ members, Open Studio (OS) has everything you need to excel and thrive on your jazz journey.

    Featuring everything from beginner to advanced lessons, engaging courses from A-list instructors, step-by-step curriculum, real-time classes and a thriving and incredibly supportive community, OS is the perfect platform to level up your jazz playing, whether you're a total beginner, or an advanced pro-level improvisor.

    Try OS Membership today! → https://osjazz.link/about

    Click here to view the episode transcript.

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    20 min
  4. Why Your Bass Lines Don't Swing (The Ron Carter Secret!)

    Season 1, Episode 130

    Show notes

    You're playing all the right notes - the changes, the time, everything. So why does your bass line still feel like it's just not dancing?

    Bob and Reuben break down the 'one thing' that separates a bass line that swings from one that just sits there: note length. They react to an unreleased Ron Carter duo track, Reuben tells the story of the studio session that changed how he thinks about note length forever, and they connect it all back to the physical mechanics of your right and left hand - on both upright and electric.

    Click here to watch a video of this episode.

    ABOUT OPEN STUDIO
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Bob and Reuben both have their own in-depth bass courses on OpenStudioJazz.com, alongside Masters like Christian McBride and Ron Carter - dig deeper into everything you hear on this show.

    As the premier online jazz education platform, with an ever-expanding course library and 20,000+ members, Open Studio (OS) has everything you need to excel and thrive on your jazz journey.

    Featuring everything from beginner to advanced lessons, engaging courses from A-list instructors, step-by-step curriculum, real-time classes and a thriving and incredibly supportive community, OS is the perfect platform to level up your jazz playing, whether you're a total beginner, or an advanced pro-level improvisor.

    Try OS Membership today! → https://osjazz.link/about

    ★ Support this podcast ★

    19 min
  5. Should You Practice In All 12 Keys?

    Season 1, Episode 129

    Show notes

    ‘Practice in all 12 keys’…It’s advice we often hear, but do we really need to???

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    21 min
  6. Playing with Our Heroes

    Season 1, Episode 128

    Show notes

    "Any musician always dreams of getting to play with their heroes, and we also have our own unsung personal heroes in our lives as well. Join Reuben and Bob for a candid discussion about what it's like playing with their heroes, and how their personal mentors have changed their lives forever for the better."

    We hope you enjoy this conversation and we'd love to hear your thoughts. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com and let us know what's up. Peace!

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    32 min
  7. Leading from the Bass

    Season 1, Episode 127

    Show notes

    "What does it mean to lead a band from the bass? What's different, what's the same, and what do two professional bassists think about what it takes? Listen in to this discussion about what we really think about being a bass leader..."

    We hope you enjoy this conversation and we'd love to hear your thoughts. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com and let us know what's up. Peace!

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    17 min
  8. Be You, Be the Music

    Season 1, Episode 126

    Show notes

    "Your life is your greatest musical asset - so go live it. In this episode of Upright Citizens, we're talking about why the best thing you can do for your playing might have nothing to do with practicing."

    We hope you enjoy this conversation and we'd love to hear your thoughts. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com and let us know what's up. Peace!

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    16 min
  9. Mistakes are a Gift

    Season 1, Episode 125

    Show notes

    "In this episode, Bob and Reuben explore the hidden beauty inside musical “mistakes” - and why the notes we didn’t mean to play might be the ones that move us forward. Through stories and reflection, they invite us to loosen our grip on perfection and discover how missteps can open the door to something honest, creative, and unexpectedly beautiful."

    We'd love to hear your thoughts as well! Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com and let us know

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    16 min
  10. How Much Technique Do We Really Need?

    Season 1, Episode 124

    Show notes

    "We do need to have good technique to play and say what we hear on the bass - but how much is enough? Can technique go too far, and what is essential? In this episode Reuben and Bob share their thoughts on just how much technique we really need"

    We'd love to hear your thoughts as well! Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com and let us know

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    23 min
  11. 5 Things We Admire In Our Favorite Musicians

    Season 1, Episode 123

    Show notes

    "There are always certain traits, habits, or even non-tangible elements that draw us to our favorite people and artists. Find out what those elements are to Bob and Reuben in this episode."

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    16 min
  12. Nurture Your Relationships

    Season 1, Episode 122

    Show notes

    "Music is all about connection, and nurturing your relationships is so important to keeping those connections happening! Hang with Bob & Reuben today as they discuss their thoughts on staying connected and keeping your relationships happening."

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    13 min
  13. Bassist Spotlight: Joe Sanders

    Season 1, Episode 121

    Show notes

    "Bassist extraordinaire Joe Sanders is getting his flowers from the Upright Citizens this time. Nobody plays like Joe, and his writing and collaborations are always incredible. Let's listen and share thoughts on this master!"
    The UC Joe Sanders playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ASufk595TtFJygTLRQGt9?si=b1d483320c8043e7

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    35 min
  14. Playing Melodically

    Season 1, Episode 120

    Show notes

    "The role of the bass is support of course, but there's ways that we can be more or less 'melodic' with our playing. This episode dives into what it means to play 'melodically' and why you might want to..."

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    15 min
  15. Drums & Bass Teams Pt. 5

    Season 1, Episode 119

    Show notes

    "We're back with another drum & bass teamup focus! This time we're celebrating the connection that Larry Grenadier and Jeff Ballard have, as well as the the incredible driving force of the Rodney Whitaker and Carl Allen hookup."

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    43 min
  16. Do Not Fear Mistakes

    Season 1, Episode 118

    Show notes

    "Everybody makes "mistakes"...and there's no better way to learn! Join Bob & Reuben on this discussion of what's important to keep in mind when we have things go other than expected..."

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    11 min
  17. Free Association - Bob's Turn

    Season 1, Episode 117

    Show notes

    "In this episode Reuben mentions three names and has Bob respond on the spot with his thoughts. You'll have to listen to find out who gets mentioned...and to hear what Bob has to say about them!"

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    16 min
  18. Drum & Bass Teams Pt 4

    Season 1, Episode 116

    Show notes

    "The connection between the bass and the drums is a deep one! In this episode we shine light on two of our favorite teams: Peter Washington/Kenny Washington and Robert Hurst/Jeff Tain Watts. Let's listen together and dig into what makes these teams so great..."

    Peter Washington/Kenny Washington:
    1) Bill Charlap Trio "While We're Young" (Live at the Village Vanguard)
    2) Grant Stewart "Koko" (Downton Sounds)

    Robert Hurst/Jeff 'Tain' Watts:
    1) Wynton Marsalis "Cherokee" (Standard Time Vol. 1)
    2)Branford Marsalis "Wolverine" (Crazy People Music)

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    38 min
  19. Free Association - Reuben's Turn

    Season 1, Episode 115

    Show notes

    "This is a fun one! Bob says three names, and Reuben shares his immediate thoughts on those folks. There's a theme here, but you have to listen to find out!"

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    16 min
  20. Bow Bros

    Season 1, Episode 114

    Show notes

    "Finding the right bow is a very personal journey and can be daunting. Join the Citizens as they discuss Reuben's recent search for a bow while on tour..."

    If you like Bass - you're in the right place! Interested in more music and practice advice? Check out Open Studio...where you'll find courses and much more by world-class bassists like Reuben Rogers, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, Bob DeBoo and more. Reach out to the Upright Citizens anytime at uprightcitizenspodcast@gmail.com

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    18 min