Podcast

WTF is with Nikhil Kamath

Business, Entrepreneurship

"WTF is" is a podcast series where Nikhil Kamath hosts friends and industry experts and holds casual yet intellectually stimulating conversations. The podcast covers a broad range of topics of particular current relevance, including technology, social media, renewable energy, electric vehicles, philosophy, gaming, psychology and more.

Episodes
59
Releases
Weekly
Typical length
1 hr 24 min
On air since
2023
Latest episode
1 day ago

Episodes

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  1. If UPI Is Free, Who Pays for It? | PhonePe, Razorpay & NPCI | WTF is Payments?

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    We scan a QR code, enter a PIN, and move on. I wanted to understand everything that happens in between. If a payment feels instant and costs us nothing, who is doing the work, who is taking the risk, and who is paying for it?

    I sat down with Sameer Nigam of PhonePe, Harshil Mathur of Razorpay, and Sohini Rajola of NPCI to follow a payment through the system. We draw out the journey between an app, the banks and NPCI, get into why the confirmation on our phone and the settlement between banks are different things, and compare that with what happens when we use a credit card. From rewards and merchant fees to fraud, failed transactions and the cost of handling cash, there is a business behind every way we choose to pay.

    The conversation also gets into MDR, how the ecosystem funds itself, and what it takes to keep investing in wider access. Then we look ahead: cross-border payments, business payments, wearable rings, digital tipping, and AI agents that might eventually shop and pay for us. The guests disagree on how quickly that future arrives, especially in India.

    If you were starting a payments business today, which problem would you try to solve? Watch the full conversation and tell me below.

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 Introduction

    02:23 Sohini Rajola: Her journey and NPCI's role

    09:40 Banks, fintechs and digital banking

    14:11 Harshil Mathur: The problem that led to Razorpay

    20:36 Sameer Nigam: His journey before PhonePe

    24:08 Why young Indians want to leave

    30:28 UPI's early builders and the cost of overregulation

    43:16 Flipkart's payment failures and the birth of PhonePe

    52:02 How a UPI payment actually works

    59:06 If UPI is free, who pays for it?

    1:05:26 Instant payments vs bank settlement

    1:08:24 Stablecoins, CBDCs and the future of money

    1:14:52 Wealth inequality, inheritance and capital gains

    1:17:11 The zero-MDR debate: Funding the payments ecosystem

    1:21:31 Should UPI apps have market-share caps?

    1:33:08 Can new banks and startups compete in India?

    1:41:18 How card and merchant payments work

    1:49:39 Credit-card rewards and RuPay on UPI

    1:54:12 How Razorpay improved online payments

    2:02:08 The B2B payments opportunity

    2:05:36 Building payments for medical tourism

    2:09:54 Why digital tipping is still unsolved

    2:16:01 What payment data reveals about India's consumers

    2:21:22 Trust and India's next wave of online shoppers

    2:26:07 GST, consumption and property taxes

    2:31:38 Affordable food, quality and accountability

    2:37:55 Cash vs digital: Measuring India's spending

    2:42:20 B2B payments, merchant data and access to credit

    2:44:31 Stablecoins, cross-border transfers and capital controls

    2:51:59 Will AI agents change how we shop and pay?

    2:57:57 Is AI in a bubble?

    3:03:01 AI costs, productivity and human work

    3:08:59 What should young founders build for AI commerce?

    3:16:01 Who benefits from AI? Business and investment opportunities

    3:24:31 Meet the builders: Seven, Dodo Payments and PayGlocal

    3:26:46 How cross-border payments and merchant-of-record models work

    3:34:55 Stablecoins and CBDCs: Speed, trust and regulation

    3:39:20 The founders' view on competition and market share

    3:41:31 Seven's payment rings: Cashback, revenue and adoption

    3:47:20 Medical tourism and other cross-border opportunities

    3:51:07 Tap-to-pay, tipping and the future of wearables

    3:53:48 Cheaper AI and the pace of agentic commerce

    3:56:47 Fraud, trust and safeguards for AI payments

    3:59:18 Final advice for young fintech founders

    GUESTS

    Sohini Rajola – Executive Director, Growth at the National Payments Corporation of India (NPCI)

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sohinirajola/

    Sameer Nigam – Founder and CEO of PhonePe

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanigam/

    Harshil Mathur – Co-founder and CEO of Razorpay

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harshilmathur/

    ALSO FEATURING PERSPECTIVES FROM

    Vijay Khubchandani – Founder & CEO, Seven

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijaykhubchandani/

    Prachi Dharani – Co-Founder & CEO, PayGlocal

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prachi-dharani-94530a9/

    Yogesh Lokhande – Co-Founder, PayGlocal

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yogesh-lokhande-b760522/

    Ayush Agarwal – Co-Founder & CPTO, Dodo Payments

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aagarwal1012/

    HOST

    Nikhil Kamath – Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas; Host of 'WTF Is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast.

    • Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/
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    4 hr
  2. Is AI a Bubble? I Asked the People Building It | WTF is AI?

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    Footage Credits & Sources

    1. Elon Musk Footage

    Source: The Economist (YouTube)

    Link: https://youtu.be/1X-rr1DKSbY?si=wLJd3G82bo389CsH

    2. Sam Altman Interview

    Source: Fortune Magazine (YouTube)

    Link: https://youtu.be/2my-NU6LuCM?si=MDhrcvqcu_vlod53&t=336

    3. Donald Trump Footage

    Source: New York Post (YouTube)

    Link: https://youtu.be/RsT2NYu8Y_Y?si=fuOhm3kKY-nWEw63&t=15

    4. Australian Government Website hack Clip

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    Link: https://youtu.be/gmf8sdQGwm4?si=9UT_LCgkldxXH4YV

    Is AI a bubble, or are we underestimating how much it can change? That’s the question I kept coming back to in San Francisco. Young companies are attracting extraordinary valuations, while I’m still trying to see how the promised productivity gains are reaching the wider economy.

    I put that scepticism to Akshay Kothari of Notion, Vijay Krishnan of Turing, and Ricursive Intelligence’s Azalia Mirhoseini and Anna Goldie. We discuss where the money is coming from, how much of it is moving between AI companies, and what businesses and individuals will actually pay for. They make the case for capabilities that are already useful, smaller teams doing more, and benefits that take time to spread. We also get into chips, human work, AI risks and what India should build.

    The technology can be powerful and the prices can still be wrong. I wanted to understand how to tell the difference.

    Timestamp:

    00:00 Introduction

    02:46 Meet Akshay Kothari and Azalia Mirhoseini

    05:21 AlphaChip: AI That Designs Computer Chips

    12:11 Cheaper Models, More Compute and Custom Chips

    17:28 What Notion Does and How AI Changes Work

    20:12 Vijay Krishnan and the People Teaching AI

    29:18 Understanding the AI Industry From Scratch

    32:43 Why Inference Companies Get High Valuations

    37:09 The Gap Between AI Capability and Adoption

    41:48 Is the AI Investment Boom a Bubble?

    46:04 What Happens When AI Can Improve Itself?

    53:00 The Changing Work of Training AI

    56:35 Why Silicon Valley and China Lead the Race

    1:00:38 Where Would You Build an AI Business?

    1:07:23 AI Agents and the Productivity Debate

    1:17:40 Are We Losing Our Own Thinking Skills?

    1:24:23 Meet Anna Goldie

    1:30:21 The $100 Million Business Question

    1:34:48 What Google Got Right—and What It Missed

    1:37:18 AI Chips and NVIDIA’s Advantage

    1:39:59 AI Shares, Secondaries and the Wealth Boom

    1:42:54 Can Countries and Companies Own Their AI?

    1:45:07 Open Models, Scaling Laws and Local AI

    1:52:07 AI Risks, Security and Human Control

    2:01:05 What Should India Build in AI?

    2:07:10 Are AI Safety Warnings Sincere?

    2:09:04 How Would You Spend Your Last Month?

    2:14:41 What Comes After the Smartphone?

    2:17:48 The Future of Social Media and Entertainment

    2:21:45 Will AI Replace the Apps We Use?

    2:25:51 Final Ideas: Product Design and Better Learning

    Akshay Kothari-Co founder and COO, Notion

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akothari/

    Vijay Krishnan-Founder and CTO, Turing-https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijay0/

    Anna Goldie-Co founder and CEO, Ricursive Intelligence

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adgoldie/

    Azalia Mirhoseini

    Co founder and CTO, Ricursive Intelligence

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azalia-mirhoseini-a5308522/

    Nikhil Kamath-Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

    • Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/
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    2 hr 29 min
  3. AI: The Future, or the Fad of the Season? | WTF is AI? | Trailer

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    I went to San Francisco with a basic question: if AI can do more of the work, where does that leave the person doing it today? I asked Akshay Kothari of Notion, Vijay Krishnan of Turing, and Ricursive Intelligence’s Azalia Mirhoseini and Anna Goldie to help me understand what is changing. We got into people teaching AI to do their own kinds of work, small teams using it to do more, why the money going into this industry makes me nervous, and what someone starting out in India should make of it. I kept asking them to explain it more simply, because I wanted to understand the opportunity as well as the risk. Here’s a first look at WTF is AI. Full conversation coming soon.

    Akshay Kothari — Co-founder and COO, Notion

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akothari/

    Vijay Krishnan — Founder and CTO, Turing

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijay0/

    Anna Goldie — Co-founder and CEO, Ricursive Intelligence

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adgoldie/

    Azalia Mirhoseini — Co-founder and CTO, Ricursive Intelligence

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azalia-mirhoseini-a5308522/

    Nikhil Kamath — Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of WTF is and People By WTF podcasts

    • Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio
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    1 min
  4. Who Gets To Decide How India Pays? | WTF is Payments? | Trailer

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    I wanted to start by drawing a diagram of the different kinds of payments and how we got here. We use UPI for everything from everyday purchases to applying for an IPO, but using it and understanding it are different things. What makes us choose one way to pay over another? What does it take to build trust? And why does a conversation about competition turn into a disagreement about who should be allowed to decide?

    This one moves from consumer incentives and bank regulation to the scale of UPI, caps on market share, and the possibility of AI agents transacting for us. There is disagreement over the costs, the timing, and whether changing commerce means payments must change too. Twenty pages of questions at the table, and one more subject waiting at the end: MDR.

    Sohini Rajola- Executive Director Growth at the National Payments Corporation of India.

    • Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/sohinirajola/

    Sameer Nigam- Founder and CEO of PhonePE

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanigam/

    Harshil Mathur: Co-founder and CEO of Razorpay

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harshilmathur/

    Nikhil Kamath-Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

    • Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio
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    3 min
  5. Will ChatGPT Book Your Next Holiday? | MakeMyTrip x Taj Hotels | WTF is Travel?

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    I put Rajesh Magow, the chartered accountant who co-founded MakeMyTrip on a team where almost nobody knew travel, and Puneet Chhatwal, the Delhi boy who spent twenty-eight years running hotels in Europe before coming home to pull IHCL out of a decade of losses, into one room to explain the business of Indian travel from scratch, and what came out was far bigger than a lesson, from why boutique hotels are better built by outsiders and how a fifty crore partnership between their companies became twelve hundred, to what a hotel actually pays to sit on MakeMyTrip and why booking direct still isn't cheaper, why ChatGPT can't scrape its way into the travel funnel and where voice bookings are taking tier-three India, why Puneet thinks the answer for a 25-year-old isn't another app but a small, clean hotel, why only ten million foreigners visit a country with more than forty UNESCO sites, what went wrong in Goa and where the next thirty Goas should be, why tourism being a state subject is the real bottleneck, and the full playbook both of them would run to take India from ten million tourists to a hundred million.

    Timestamp:

    00:00 Introduction

    07:03 Getting to Know the Guests

    14:30 How MakeMyTrip’s Hotel Partnerships Work

    21:45 Booking Direct vs Travel Apps

    28:26 Puneet Chhatwal’s Journey from Delhi to Europe

    35:01 Building Villa Stays & Solo Travel Businesses

    41:43 Will AI Change How We Book Travel?

    48:40 Customer Data vs Personal Hospitality

    55:43 Can Robots Replace Hotel Staff?

    1:03:05 Bringing Small-Town India into Online Travel

    1:09:52 Should Hotels Cut Out the Middleman?

    1:16:37 India’s Mid-Range Hotel Opportunity

    1:23:51 Marketing India & Fixing Tourism Taxes

    1:30:46 Mass Tourism vs Luxury Tourism in Goa

    1:38:26 Can Luxury Trains Attract Premium Tourists?

    1:44:44 Civic Sense & the Tourist Experience

    1:51:24 Making India’s Attractions Discoverable & Bookable

    1:58:44 Alibaug’s Potential & the Homestay Business

    2:05:56 Why Celebrations Are Driving Villa Bookings

    2:13:42 What Travel Business Should a 25-Year-Old Start?

    2:19:43 Handling Bad Experiences & Building Trust

    2:27:16 Nandan Nilekani & the Shift to Hotel Branding

    2:34:40 What It Takes to Run an Asset-Light Hotel Brand

    2:41:13 The Wellness Hotel Opportunity

    2:48:44 Building Travel Businesses for Gen Z

    2:56:16 Travel Education & New Business Ideas

    3:02:19 Unlocking Unexplored India

    3:08:42 Building New Destinations & Event Tourism

    3:15:38 Private Jet Economics & Closing Thoughts

    Rajesh Magow, Co-Founder & Group CEO, MakeMyTrip Limited

    • LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajesh-magow-9278094/Rajesh Magow

    Puneet Chhatwal, Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer, The Indian Hotels Company Limited (IHCL)

    • LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/puneet-chhatwal-aa1aa54/Puneet Chhatwal

    Nikhil Kamath — Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

    • Twitter:https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/Twitter
    • Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram
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    3 hr 22 min
  6. India Is A Great Country To Travel From, Not To | WTF is Travel? | Trailer

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    I put the two companies most Indian holidays run through into one room, Rajesh Magow who co-founded MakeMyTrip and Puneet Chhatwal who runs IHCL, the company behind Taj, and what began as friendly needling over whose business is bigger and more profitable turned into the one question I couldn't let go of, why a country with this much coastline, culture and history gets barely ten million foreign visitors a year and what it would actually take to make that a hundred million, which pulled us through OYO's pivot, whether India's problem is marketing or the product itself, why tourism gets half a percent of GDP when every rupee spent on it comes back three times over, where the next Goa is, and the line that stayed with me, that India has become a great country to travel from and not the best country to travel to. Full episode drops soon.

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    3 min
  7. The Battery Everyone Uses Is The One They'd Never Build | EnerVenue x HiNa | WTF are Batteries?

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    I went to Dalian with a selfish question. I run a fund that invests in energy transition, and I've come to think energy isn't the problem moving it and storing it is. So I sat down with Henning Rath, who runs EnerVenue out of Silicon Valley and is building his first gigafactory in Changzhou, and Tang Kun, who runs HiNa Battery, a sodium-ion company spun out of the Chinese Academy of Sciences that's now ten years old with 600 people and a gigawatt line. I told them I don't know anything about batteries and asked them to teach me. We started at what a cell even is, went through why the entire industry standardised on LFP and what a thermal runaway actually does, and then Henning told me something I hadn't heard: the world had over 14,000 LFP fires last year alone. I asked whether I should start an electric car company or a battery company when I get home. Both said battery and Henning was blunt about it: don't build anything that needs rare earth. Fifty million dollars to start. We got into nickel-hydrogen at 30,000 cycles, sodium carbonate at a tenth of what lithium carbonate costs, why solid state is still at level four out of nine, and the idea I keep coming back to that your car sits idle 98% of the time with a battery and a stack of chips doing nothing, and there's a version of this where every parked car is a micro data center.

    00:00 Introduction

    06:45 China's bet on chemistries beyond lithium

    12:14 Cell chemistry and the trade-offs it forces

    17:15 Thermal runaway and the limits of LFP

    22:44 Production quality and how long a battery lasts

    27:07 Why China won the electric car

    33:54 Decoupling a battery business from lithium and rare earths

    38:50 Sodium's cost advantage and its energy density ceiling

    43:51 Recycling nickel and renting the metal

    48:17 Where generation, storage and demand should sit

    54:05 Decentralization and the car as a grid battery

    1:00:19 Three super cycles and AI's power demand

    1:05:30 Automation, jobs and China's social contract

    Footage Courtesy: World Economic Forum (WEF) CC BY-NC-ND 4.0

    Source: https://www.weforum.org/videos/amnc26_summer_davos_highlights/

    Henning Rath, Chief Executive Officer at EnerVenue

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/henning-rath/

    • Kun Tang, Executive Chairman of HiNa Battery

    LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kun-tang-52a52327/

    Nikhil Kamath-Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

    • Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/

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    #WTFareBatteries #EnerVenue #HiNaBattery #SummerDavos

    1 hr 10 min
  8. Why The Next Battery Won't Need Lithium Or Rare Earth | Nikhil Kamath | WTF Is A Battery

    Show notes

    I went into this wanting one answer, if I were starting something today, should it be an electric car company or a battery company and what I got back was narrower and more useful than I expected: don't build the thing that needs rare earth. We got into why sodium carbonate sits at roughly a tenth of what the equivalent lithium inputs cost, what $50 million actually buys you if you're starting this from scratch, why the world saw over 14,000 LFP fires last year alone and what that says about the chemistry everyone standardised on, and the part I keep coming back to that your car is parked 98% of the time in front of your house, and there's a version of this where that's not a dead asset but a micro data center. Every car a token factory. I didn't see that coming.

    Henning Rath, Chief Executive Officer at EnerVenue

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/henning-rath/
    • Kun Tang, Executive Chairman of HiNa Battery
    • LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kun-tang-52a52327/

    Footage Source: BYD footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0oMa2jWXaM

    Tesla footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50PU-cQx7j0

    Nikhil Kamath-Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

    • Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio
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    Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify

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    #WTFareBatteries #EnerVenue #HiNaBattery #SummerDavos

    1 min
  9. Abundance vs Scarcity: We Built 20 Brands With 30 Strangers In 90 Days | The Foundery

    Show notes

    The street believes struggle makes the founder, so we removed the struggle — twenty-five strangers, a brand and four crores each, ninety days in one house in Alibaug and then sat down to ask the only question that scared us: does a head start make a founder, or unmake one? Nikhil Kamath, Kishore Biyani and Ronnie Screwvala audit the model, the equity split everyone questions, the two philosophies built into this house, and what the three of us will do if twenty brands don't sell.

    00:00 Introduction

    06:18 Is The Foundery a selfish bet?

    12:29 Why building new beats the capitalist high

    18:28 How the company-builder model formed

    24:47 The new consumer categories driving the bets

    30:41 What happens after Day 90

    35:13 The equity split everyone questions: 25% vs 75%

    43:11 Where the ideas come from, and how the gates work

    50:56 Founder–idea fit and the flaws each founder owns

    58:05 Why equity beats an endorsement fee

    1:05:14 What happens if the brands fail

    1:11:08 What actually drives Nikhil

    1:17:46 Abundance vs scarcity in one house

    1:23:54 Social mobility and India's bubbles

    1:28:54 What the founders are unlearning

    1:33:09 Twelve months out: what they'd change

    #NikhilKamath

    Co-Founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF'

    • Twitter: @nikhilkamathcio on X
    • Instagram: @nikhilkamathcio on Instagram
    • LinkedIn: Nikhil Kamath LinkedIn
    • Facebook: Nikhil Kamath Facebook

    The Foundery is a venture builder that forges entrepreneurs into co-founders and builds companies with them from the ground up.

    • Website: The Foundery
    • Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCtJssM5FzLXSWIf5VWUmT2w
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jointhefoundery/?hl=en

    Kishore Biyani – Founder & CEO of Future Group

    Ronnie Screwvala – Co-Founder & Chairperson of upGrad, Founder of UTV Group

    • LinkedIn: Ronnie Screwvala LinkedIn

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    1 hr 36 min
  10. We Gave 25 Strangers ₹4 Crore Each To Build 20 New Brands | The Foundery

    Show notes

    So we ran an experiment. We call it The Foundery. Sixty days ago, twenty-five people we'd never met moved into a house in Alibaug — each one handed a new-age consumer brand, four crores, and ninety days to build a real business with us. Not a college, not an accelerator: a place where we become your co-founders and build the company alongside you. In this first conversation, Nikhil Kamath, Kishore Biyani and Ronnie Screwvala get into why we built it, what we're risking, and what happens if none of it works.

    #nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

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    The Foundery is a venture builder that forges entrepreneurs into co-founders and builds companies with them from the ground up.

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    Kishore Biyani – Founder & CEO of Future Group

    Ronnie Screwvala – Co-Founder & Chairperson of upGrad, Founder of UTV Group

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    1 min
  11. Why One New Drug Takes Ten Years To Make | Mankind x Dr. Reddy's | WTF is Pharma?

    Show notes

    I got two of the biggest names in Indian pharma into one room, Rajeev Juneja of Mankind and GV Prasad of Dr. Reddy's, who'd somehow never actually met before this, and what came out was part masterclass and part origin story, from why being relentlessly contrarian beat following the herd, to how a college dropout from Meerut turned everything he hated about a medical store into a pharma giant, to why a chemical engineer who says he owes his career to his marriage spent decades chasing one original molecule, and somewhere in between we got into why India makes the world's generics instead of discovering its own drugs, what it really takes in time and money to bring a single drug to market, why GV thinks the AI-will-cure-everything story is overstated, where GLP-1s go next, and the one thing they'd tell a 25-year-old trying to build in pharma.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction

    04:27 Rajeev Juneja's path from medical-store apprentice to building Mankind

    10:11 Mankind's contrarian OTC and bottom-up market strategy

    16:23 G.V. Prasad on science and the Dr. Reddy's lineage

    23:06 Segmenting the industry and how generic drugs are made

    29:15 Why drug purity standards are shared but enforcement differs

    36:40 Why India is the pharmacy of the world by volume, not revenue

    41:00 How margins are split across the pharma value chain

    45:17 Whether online pharmacy and consumer brands are real openings

    53:15 Whether hospital roll-up valuations are justified

    59:10 Tariffs, Jan Aushadhi and drug price controls

    1:03:21 How China built a pharma-innovation ecosystem in a decade

    1:10:02 Long-horizon governance and removing entrepreneurial fear

    1:15:40 China's incentives, talent and leverage over the US

    1:22:01 Why the Ayush and wellness market outgrows pharma

    1:25:05 The evidence, quality and standardisation debate around Ayurveda

    1:35:13 The sexual-wellness opportunity and the stigma problem

    1:40:26 The fertility, IVF and egg-freezing opportunity

    1:43:45 The API narrative debate and how a drug is synthesised

    1:50:54 Biologics, monoclonal antibodies and vaccines explained

    1:55:57 Stem cells and peptides, separating therapy from hype

    2:00:06 The semaglutide story and how GLP-1 works

    2:05:01 Mankind's ethical-selling philosophy on GLP-1

    2:08:06 Why India leads in small molecules but lags in biologics

    2:15:07 Where a young founder can enter the GLP-1 wave

    2:23:38 The yin and yang of innovators and generics

    2:29:05 Diagnostics, CDMO and the China-plus-one opportunity

    2:37:18 Applying AI to pharma and the expired-medicine problem

    2:43:01 Why founders should never copy a set formula

    2:45:30 Succession, home diagnostics and the microfluidics frontier

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    Rajeev Juneja-Vice Chairman & Managing Director at Mankind Pharma Ltd

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    G.V Prasad Reddy-MD & Co-Chairman at Dr. Reddy's

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    2 hr 51 min
  12. Generics, Ozempic & The Fear Holding India Back | WTF is Pharma? | Trailer

    Show notes

    I always assumed India was becoming the pharmacy of the world, until this conversation made me sit with the sharper truth that we're the generic pharmacy of the world, and from there we got into whether China really killed our API industry or whether Indians still quietly lead it, why a drug like semaglutide turns into a miracle and a problem the second everyone wants it, the side effects nobody wants to talk about, the ethics of running a prescription-driven business, whether the global enthusiasm around Indian hospitals is actually justified, and why fear might be the single biggest thing holding Indian entrepreneurship back.

    #nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas

    Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast

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    Rajeev Juneja-Vice Chairman & Managing Director at Mankind Pharma Ltd

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    G.V Prasad Reddy-MD & Co-Chairman at Dr. Reddy's

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    2 min
  13. We Backed 17 of India's Brightest Young Founders with ₹20L Grants | WTFund Cohort 3

    Show notes

    Spent a few hours with young bright founders below the age of 25 from the 3rd WTFund cohort. WTFund is a non-dilutive ₹20 lakh grant. From over 3,000 applications, we shortlisted 8 startups. We spoke about what they’re building, but also about doubt, ambition, money, and the uncertainty that comes with starting early. Some clear ideas. Some unfinished thoughts. A conversation that felt more real than structured.

    https://www.allthingswtf.com/wtfund

    00:00 - WTFund Bootcamp

    02:02 - Intro

    03:20 - Prava - AI-Led Transactions

    10:22 - Astraeus Innovus - Preventive Cancer Screening

    18:45 - Turocrates AI - AI-Driven Diagnostics

    26:35 - AntiMattr - Voice-First Computing

    32:12 - O3 security - Securing AI Systems

    39:05 - Bloom Rehab - Tech-Enabled Recovery

    42:00 - Journey to Building

    46:22 - Philosophies of life

    50:31 - Placestation - Automating PCB Assembly

    55:32 - AEYI : AI-Powered CCTV Monitoring

    57:50 - Q&A with Nikhil

    01:04:14 - AI Girlfriend & Dating

    01:05:35 - Schools of Psychology

    01:08:26 - Nikhil's Birthday Plans

    01:09:11 - Golden Hour

    01:10:10 - Healthcare & Longevity

    01:12:33 - Trading

    01:16:32 - Advice for Young Founders

    #NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, Gruhas Host of ‘WTF is’ & ‘People by WTF’ Podcast

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    WTFund India’s premiere non-dilutive grant fund for emerging entrepreneurs.

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    O3 Security A security platform that stops software supply-chain attacks in real time — whether it’s AI-generated or human-written code to production.

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    Aeyi Aeyi is a GENAI-powered system that turns normal CCTV cameras into real-time safety and monitoring tools.

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    Antimattr AI-powered earbuds for hands-free audio computing.

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    BloomRehab Rehabilitation robots for neuro and ortho recovery.

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bloomrehab/

    Astraeus Innovus A ₹100 saliva test that screens for oral cancer in under 5 minutes.

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    PlaceStation A desktop system that automates PCB assembly for faster, accessible electronics manufacturing.

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    Prava A payments infrastructure layer built specifically for AI shopping assistants and agents.

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    Turocrates Improving patient outcomes using a digital and AI-driven operating system for diagnostic labs.

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    1 hr 24 min
  14. Nikhil Kamath ft. H.E Omar Sultan Al Olama | The Case for Youth in Politics | Special Ep

    Show notes

    I sat down with His Excellency Omar Sultan Al Olama, the UAE’s youngest minister and the world’s first AI Minister, to unpack how modern governments think about the future and the role younger leaders play in shaping it. A last-minute conversation in Dubai that opened up a thoughtful discussion on youth in politics, leadership, and how AI is beginning to influence the way nations are governed. Big thanks to @IndiaGlobalForum for creating the space for conversations like this, and Manoj Ladwa, a dear friend and a rare connector between India and the rest of the world. People like him, through IGF are helping frame the ideas that will define this decade, and bring them to life

    00:00 – Introduction

    01:24 – Why AI Changes the Power Balance Between Countries

    05:05 – Jobs, Intelligence, & What AI Takes Away From Humans

    13:20 – Why This Conversation Happened at IGF

    15:42 – Making of a Minister

    22:18 – Why does anything matter?

    24:42 – Machiavelli

    30:23 – Fear or love? How are Leaders Remembered?

    33:26 – UAE's Legacy & It's Perpetual Importance

    38:04 – How UAE goes about it's diasporic Governance

    48:13 – Taxes, Value Exchange, and What Citizens Expect

    55:09 – Education, Work, and the Path to Government

    1:12:19 – The Phone Call That Made Him AI Minister at 27

    1:14:22 – Corruption, Incentives, and Power Structures

    1:24:46 – AI & Governance

    1:27:55 – Global Neutrality, Building Bridges & Restraint

    1:37:49 – Blockchain, Discourse, and Closing Reflections

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    #omarsultanalolama : Minister of State for Artificial Intelligence, Digital Economy and Remote Work Applications at Government of the UAE

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    1 hr 43 min
  15. The Case for Youth in Politics | HE Omar Sultan Al Olama (One of the World's Youngest Ministers)

    Show notes

    Came for a conversation, Left with a shift in perspective. A solid case to prove that age isn’t the barrier we think it is. A big thank you to @IndiaGlobalForum for hosting this dialogue. And to Manoj Ladwa, for being the bridge that makes conversations like this happen.

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    #omarsultanalolama : Minister of State for Artificial Intelligence, Digital Economy and Remote Work Applications at Government of the UAE

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    1 min
  16. Tira, Bombay Shaving Co., Inde Wild | WTF is Fueling India's Beauty & Skincare Revolution? | Ep. 25

    Show notes

    Three founders leading India’s skincare wave – Bhakti Modi (Tira), Shantanu Deshpande (Bombay Shaving Company), and Diipa Khosla (Inde Wild) join me to share the highs and lows of building beauty and skincare brands and the trends shaping this booming industry.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Intro

    02:39 - Bhakti’s journey & love story

    05:14 - Diipa’s road to Inde Wild

    10:34 - Persona’s role in brand building

    15:07 - How Shantanu started

    20:48 - Valuations & industry secrets

    27:30 - Decoding the salon industry

    34:58 - How Inde Wild made Champi cool again

    38:01 - Market size & shifting narratives

    45:14 - Marketing quality & building a community

    52:41 - Why fragrance is exploding

    1:00:42 - Community’s role in branding

    1:08:04 - Cracking the BPC industry

    1:22:26 - Omnichannel: A must-have?

    1:27:15 - Tariffs, growth & social selling

    1:31:00 - Can Indian brands go global?

    1:34:51 - Cracking influencer marketing

    1:42:15 - Sampling, distribution & minis

    1:48:07 - Sustainability: Do founders still care?

    1:52:54 - What’s the next wave?

    2:04:39 - How the world perceives India

    2:09:48 - Tech’s role in customising

    2:16:10 - Nikhil’s & Diipa’s tattoos

    2:18:14 - Why founders need grit

    2:19:47 - Bhakti & Tira’s origin story

    2:34:10 - Inside Tira: From concept to customer

    2:38:34 - Do celebrity brands work?

    2:44:51 - Why Diipa started Inde Wild

    2:48:25 - Mass, premium, prestige: Which segment is winning?

    3:05:45 - Quick commerce & Tier 2 markets

    3:11:11 - Ayurveda: Still a novelty?

    3:14:43 - The making of Bombay Shaving Company

    3:21:39 - From idea to product: Manufacturing & patents

    3:30:14 - Advice to aspiring skincare founders

    #NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur

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    Bhakti Modi - CEO, Tira

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bhaktim679/...

    LinkedIn: / bhakti-modi-98a32293

    Diipa Khosla - Founder, Inde Wild

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diipakhosla...

    LinkedIn: https://in.linkedin.com/in/diipa-khos....

    Website: https://india.indewild.com/?utm_campa...

    Shantanu Deshpande - Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shantanudes...

    LinkedIn: / shantanudeshpandebsc

    3 hr 37 min
  17. Inside India's Booming Skincare Industry | Ep. 25 Teaser

    Show notes

    Bhakti Modi (Tira), Shantanu Deshpande (Bombay Shaving Company), and Diipa Khosla (Inde Wild) joined forces to answer one question:

    What should 25-year-old Dilip build next?

    Bhakti Modi

    CEO, Tira

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bhaktim679/...

    LinkedIn: / bhakti-modi-98a32293

    Diipa Khosla

    Founder, Inde Wild

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diipakhosla...

    LinkedIn : https://in.linkedin.com/in/diipa-khos....

    Shantanu Deshpande

    Founder, Bombay Shaving Company

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    LinkedIn : / shantanudeshpandebsc

    2 min
  18. Inside Silicon Valley's VC Playbook | WTF is Venture Capital? - 2025 Edition | Ep. 24

    Show notes

    In this unfiltered conversation, we discuss bad bets, overhyped markets, and where VCs should actually put their money. I sat down with Deedy Das (Principal, Menlo Ventures), Nikunj Kothari (Partner, FPV Ventures), and Niko Bonatsos (Early-Stage Venture Capitalist) to get their hot takes on industries.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Intro

    00:58 - Deedy’s journey & the Anthropic story

    05:10 - Nikunj’s background

    11:32 - Niko’s story

    13:31 - Sectors to avoid as an investor

    23:17 - Today’s hottest sectors

    27:31 - Emerging AI trends

    38:37 - Declining birth rates + AI’s role

    48:19 - Abundance & capitalism

    53:19 - Raising kids in an Instagram world

    55:39 - No tech: the next big business?

    1:00:55 - The future of dating apps

    1:06:52 - Key predictions for the next frontier

    1:10:14 - Will urbanisation continue?

    1:13:51 - Longevity & wellness industry

    1:16:01 - Which sector will boom by 2035?

    1:25:59 - Rethinking senior living

    1:32:52 - Content vs. product: what builds a brand?

    1:43:50 - Individual vs. legacy brands

    1:47:30 - EVs & mobility: the road ahead

    1:58:03 - Opportunities in beauty & luxury

    2:02:17 - Where live events are headed

    2:06:14 - Climate tech & its impact

    2:11:49 - Data centers: the best bet?

    2:15:13 - Vices as an industry

    2:24:18 - Wrapping it all together

    2:29:02 - Legal AI: opportunities & challenges

    2:32:29 - India in the global AI race

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    2 hr 52 min
  19. Cracking Silicon Valley's VC Code | WTF is Venture Capital? - 2025 Edition | Ep. 24 Teaser

    Show notes

    What industries will die out in the next decade? I sat down with three venture capitalists from Silicon Valley to decode.

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    #NikunjKothari - Partner, FPV Ventures

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    #NikoBonatsos - Early-Stage Venture Capitalist

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    2 min
  20. Nikhil Kamath ft. Police Comm'r & Traffic Police Comm'r of Bengaluru | WTF is Policing? | Special Ep

    Show notes

    As someone from Bangalore, I’ve been a bit bothered by how much flak we get, especially about traffic. So I set out to see if the criticism is fair, and what’s actually being done about it.In this episode, I spend the day with two of Bengaluru’s top police officers — B. Dayananda, IPS (Commissioner of Police) and M.N. Anucheth, IPS (Joint Commissioner of Police, Traffic) — to understand what’s really happening in the city.We get to know how the police are using AI and other technology to manage traffic more effectively, and what’s the future of urban transport. But this episode isn’t just about traffic. We delve into the reality of being a police officer, how they’re portrayed in movies, and the push-pull between politics and policing. We also discuss the rise in cybercrime and how you can protect yourself online.If you’ve ever complained about traffic, considered joining the force, or just want a closer look at how the system works, this episode is for you.Timestamps:⁠00:00⁠ - Intro & visit to the Office of the Commissioner of Police⁠2:31⁠ - Tracking calls at the Integrated Command & Control Centre⁠5:57⁠ - What police medals & uniforms represent⁠07:07⁠ - Police hierarchy & recruitment exams⁠12:36⁠ - Why is Bengaluru criticised & what’s the future of transport?⁠15:40⁠ - Are traffic fines a deterrent or government revenue?⁠17:41⁠ - How does Bengaluru use AI & data to improve traffic flow?⁠23:13⁠ - How cameras catch traffic violations⁠26:41⁠ - Combating bribery⁠29:35⁠ - Exploring the traffic police museum⁠31:26⁠ - The push-pull between politicians & police⁠33:00⁠ - B. Dayananda’s journey to policing⁠35:28⁠ - Should VIPs be above traffic rules?⁠38:47⁠ - Challenges & rewards of becoming a policeman⁠43:45⁠ - How MN Anucheth decided to enter the force⁠45:41⁠ - The sacrifices of policing & balancing family⁠48:32⁠ - How policemen cope with retirement⁠51:23⁠ - Kannadiga representation in government⁠53:48⁠ - Can policemen transition to politics?⁠55:39⁠ - Skills & talents of a good policeman⁠57:19⁠ - So low budgets force police to accept bribes?⁠58:31⁠ - Is there a solution to Bengaluru’s traffic problem?⁠1:02:22⁠ - What needs to change in India?⁠1:06:57⁠ - Nikhil's focus on building an Indian-first brand ecosystem⁠1:07:56⁠ - How accurately do movies depict police realities?⁠1:10:40⁠ - B. Dayananda’s love for bike rides: redefining the policeman’s image⁠1:14:05⁠ - Bangalore police’s growing social media presence⁠1:15:00⁠ - Advice for youth considering a career in policing⁠1:17:16⁠ - The rise of cybercrimes⁠1:21:35⁠ - Final thoughts: A message to aspiring policemen⁠#NikhilKamath⁠ - Investor & 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