Podcast
Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration
Care More Be Better, invites you to care more so we can create a better world together. We amplify the voices of environmentalists, activists, health and nutrition gurus, scientists, and leading experts who seek to make the world a better place. Over the course of more than 250 interview episodes, you'll hear from experts like Jean-Michel Cousteau, Paul Hawken, Nina Simons, Dr. Wallace J. Nichols, Captain Liz Clark, Dr. William Li, Miyoko Schinner, John Roulac, Chef Babette Davis, Kelly Reyerson (@glyphosategirl), Donna Grantis and many more. These global change agents and activists create positive impacts and encourage us to think globally while also acting locally. Listen for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, on our website, and on most major podcast platforms.
Inspired by Paul Hawken’s aspirational book Regeneration - Ending The Climate Crisis In One Generation, and the late Dr. Wallace J. Nichols' Blue Mind Movement, this show aims to create a realistic roadmap to build a better future. As Paul Hawken simply states: “Global warming is not a science problem. It’s a human problem.” On this journey, you'll become the person you aspire to be by remaining curious, thinking deeply, and listening intently while looking inward. You'll discover your internal wisdom and learn to listen to your inner voice to receive the gifts nature provides fully. Become part of the regeneration nation by expanding your knowledge of agriculture, social systems, and help us build a more circular and just economy.
The stories we tell will get you thinking about how to secure the future for the human race and all Earth's inhabitants - from how you can build positive change in your local community, to how you might broaden your reach and impact globally.
About Our Host: A natural products industry executive, Corinna Bellizzi helped develop and grow several responsible, sustainable nutrition brands including: Nordic Naturals and ORLO Nutrition. With these achievements and experience, Corinna went back to school to earn her MBA at Santa Clara University, and is now pursuing her PhD in Sustainability Education at Prescott College. Her colorful career and exceptional experiences fill this show with life-changing conversations and insights you're sure to benefit from. She exemplifies how to deliver genuine value, achieve bigger things, and pursue significant positive change. Care More Be Better is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, our website and most major podcast platforms. JOIN OUR CIRCLE. BUILD A GREENER FUTURE! https://caremorebebetter.com
Remember, our aim with Care More Be Better is to help you use less, waste less, and live more! Engage with us on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok!
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- On air since
- 2021
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- 4 days ago
Episodes
371 episodes, newest first
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13 min
Patrick Stewart, Dolly Parton, Dolores Huerta: The Allies We Lost (Bonus) Bonus
Show notes
This week, we’re sharing a bonus episode from Care More Be Better’s unfiltered sibling show, Care Less Be Worse: The Environmental News Rant. This version has been edited for language.
In 2026, we lost some of the people who made a better world feel possible, and in a single 24-hour stretch this week, we lost three of them. Corinna honors seven allies who spent their lives protecting the land, the animals, the workers, and the communities living in the shadow of smokestacks.
Anthony Head championed animal rescue alongside his late partner, animal welfare campaigner Sarah Fisher. Dolly Parton helped create a sanctuary for bald eagles and showed up for her neighbors when wildfires swept through the Smoky Mountains. Wendell Berry installed solar panels in coal country and protested strip mining well into his late seventies. Gloria Steinem reminded us that our movements are “linked, not ranked.” Patrick Stewart warned that our planet’s decline was accelerating and called for a new Star Trek to remind us what humanity could be. Dolores Huerta co-founded the United Farm Workers, fought for the people who feed us, and gave us “Sí se puede.” And Desmond D’Sa, the Goldman Prize-winning activist, spent more than 30 years fighting refinery pollution in South Durban, even after his home was firebombed.
This episode begins in grief and ends with a call to carry their work forward. As Dolores Huerta put it: don’t wait to be invited, step in. Election Day is Tuesday. Find your voting information at https://vote.gov.
Remembering them
• Patrick Stewart (NPR): https://www.npr.org/2026/10/29/1230906945/patrick-stewart-dead
• Dolores Huerta (TIME): https://time.com/article/2026/10/28/dolores-huerta-dies/
• Desmond D’Sa (Mail & Guardian): https://mg.co.za/the-green-guardian/2026-10-29-desmond-d-sa-fearless-champion-of-environmental-justice-dies-in-crash/
• Gloria Steinem (ABC News): https://abcnews.com/US/feminist-icon-journalist-gloria-steinem-dies/story?id=82183161
• Wendell Berry (The Guardian): https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/sep/01/wendell-berry-us-author-dead
• Dolly Parton (NPR): https://www.npr.org/2026/08/25/nx-s1-3650175/dolly-parton-obituary
• Anthony Head (Playbill): https://playbill.com/article/stage-and-screen-actor-anthony-head-has-died-at-72For the uncensored version, follow Care Less Be Worse: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/care-less-be-worse-the-environmental-news-rant/id6826374983 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ma3uZooZf1pQ4jdmG2Oy8 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/61e2aca8-9f31-45a0-809a-06190c56b559/care-less-be-worse-the-environmental-news-rant iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-care-less-be-worse-the-env-348283076
Rant there. Recover here. Join our circle at https://caremorebebetter.com and @caremorebebetter.
Get a story that fired you up? Send it to rant@carelessbeworse.com.
Background music courtesy of Arches Audio’s free song of the week, June 8, 2021.
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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16 min
Bonus: The Hidden Costs of Climate Change We All Pay (from Care Less Be Worse) Bonus
Show notes
This week, we’re sharing a bonus episode from Care More Be Better’s unfiltered sibling show, Care Less Be Worse: The Environmental News Rant. This version has been bleeped for this feed.
For the uncensored version and a full list of sources, follow Care Less Be Worse: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/care-less-be-worse-the-environmental-news-rant/id6826374983 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ma3uZooZf1pQ4jdmG2Oy8 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/61e2aca8-9f31-45a0-809a-06190c56b559/care-less-be-worse-the-environmental-news-rant iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-care-less-be-worse-the-env-348283076
SHOW NOTES: Caring deeply about the world means getting angry sometimes, too. In this episode, Corinna gets personal about one of the least-covered costs of climate change: the bill that comes after the fire and the flood. She shares what it’s been like to live in the Santa Cruz Mountains since the CZU Lightning Complex in 2020, to watch friends lose their homes and their insurance, to have her home office flood three times during the atmospheric rivers of 2022 to 2023, and to see her fire insurance premium more than quadruple since 2009.
She also looks at this week’s king tide flooding in Marin, a potentially record-breaking El Niño, the latest California FAIR Plan rate hike, rising construction costs, the shrinking federal disaster safety net, and why so many homeowners still aren’t connecting their rising insurance bills to a warming planet.
It’s raw, it’s personal, and it ends with a fiery call to action ahead of Election Day. Find your voting information at vote.gov.
Key sources from this episode
• California FAIR Plan rate hike (KQED): https://www.kqed.org/news/12094860/california-fair-plan-announces-29-1-rate-hike-for-homeowners-this-fall
• What climate change costs U.S. households (MIT Sloan): https://mitsloan.mit.edu/press/why-climate-change-costing-u-s-households-hundreds-dollars-a-year
• NOAA 2026 to 2027 Winter Outlook: https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/el-nino-looms-large-over-us-winter-outlook
• Marin flooding as a preview of El Niño winter (NBC Bay Area): https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/marin-county-flooding-high-tides-el-nino/4164618/Background music courtesy of Arches Audio’s free song of the week, June 8, 2021.
Rant there. Recover here. Next week, we’re back with more conversations with the people building a better future.
Join our circle at https://caremorebebetter.com and @caremorebebetter.
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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50 min
Democracy Works When We Do: Hope, Reform, and How to Get Involved with Jenna Spinelle
Episode 308
Show notes
Feeling discouraged about politics does not have to mean tuning out. Jenna Spinelle has spent years telling the stories of ordinary people who saw a problem, found like-minded neighbors, and started working on it, whether or not they won. In this conversation, Jenna traces her path from local newspapers and Penn State admissions to building a network of democracy podcasts, explains why city councils and school boards are the most accessible place to start, and shares what she is learning while writing a book about the democracy reform movement. You will leave with a short list of organizations, books, and one-hour actions that make participation feel doable.
Episode Blog is here: https://caremorebebetter.com/democracy-works-when-we-do-hope-reform-and-how-to-get-involved-with-jenna-spinelle/
Topics Covered
• [00:00] Intro
• [02:30] Jenna's path from print journalism and Penn State admissions to the McCourtney Institute and Democracy Works
• [03:38] How The Democracy Group network came together, and why Care More Be Better is now part of it
• [05:02]Registering voters as a college freshman in 2004 and how student engagement has changed
• [07:33]Holding hope and concern at the same time, and limiting news to protect your mental health
• [10:00] Why local government (city council, school board) is where you are most likely to effect change
• [12:51] Stories from When the People Decide: everyday people working on grassroots democracy reform
• [15:33] Ballot measures as a messy but useful tool, and the Citizens Initiative Review
• [17:20] Why the 25th and 26th Amendment stories show that one person can start something
• [20:07] A Florida resident who raised concerns about Flock cameras with his city council
• [22:22] Jenna's forthcoming book and the 96% of Americans frustrated with the status quo (Pew)
• [25:40] Umbrella organizations to start with: National Association of Nonpartisan Reformers, Bridge Alliance, iCivics
• [28:02] Finding common ground on clean air, clean water, and public lands, and Jenna's work with Common Ground USA
• [30:27]Low-lift ways to connect: democracy happy hours, Zoom and Slack groups, and Podcast Brunch Club
• [33:02] If you have one hour this month: preview your ballot, plan to vote, learn about being a poll worker
• [35:30] Why Jenna is hopeful about Gen Z, and her Agora Institute project connecting creators and democracy organizations
• [38:00] Five-year outlook: campaign finance reform, open primaries, ranked choice voting, and the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
• [40:20] Ranked choice voting explained in plain language
• [44:50] A closing challenge: pick something that matters to you and join with your neighborsResources and Links
• Jenna Spinelle: https://jennaspinelle.com/
• The Democracy Group: https://democracygroup.org/
• NOTE: Get a free guide from The Democracy Group: nine ways to take action as a citizen (when you subscribe on their website)
• When the People Decide: https://democracygroup.org/shows/when-the-people-decide
• Democracy Works: https://www.democracyworkspodcast.com/
• National Association of Nonpartisan Reformers: https://www.nonpartisanreformers.org/
• Bridge Alliance: https://www.bridgealliance.us/
• iCivics: https://www.icivics.org/
• Vote411 (League of Women Voters): https://www.vote411.org/
• Ballotpedia sample ballot lookup: https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_ballot_lookup_tools
• Katharine Hayhoe: https://www.katharinehayhoe.com/
• Common Ground USA https://www.cg-usa.org/
• The Pennsylvania Resilient State Working Group: https://www.resilientpa.org/
• I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzman
• High Conflict by Amanda Ripley
• Citizens Initiative Review: https://healthydemocracy.org/home/services/cir/
• Podcast Brunch Club: https://podcastbrunchclub.com/CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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4 min
Bonus: Introducing Care Less Be Worse Bonus
Show notes
Care More Be Better has always been about hope: amplifying the scientists, activists, and changemakers building a more sustainable, regenerative future. That isn’t changing. New interviews will keep arriving here every week.
But caring deeply about the world also means getting angry about what’s happening to it. So I’ve launched a new companion show, Care Less Be Worse: The Environmental News Rant, a raw, unedited space where I take the gloves off about the news that’s wrecking our natural world and our communities. Environmental rollbacks, public lands on the auction block, a billionaire class racing to care less while the rest of us live with the consequences. If you’ve ever finished a news story wanting to scream, this show is for you.
In this bonus episode, you’ll hear the trailer that sets the tone for what’s coming. Fair warning: it’s explicit, and it’s meant to be. Care Less Be Worse is where I process the rage so that here, at Care More Be Better, we can keep focusing on solutions.
Rant there. Recover here.
Follow Care Less Be Worse: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/care-less-be-worse-the-environmental-news-rant/id6826374983 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ma3uZooZf1pQ4jdmG2Oy8 iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-care-less-be-worse-the-env-348283076 Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/61e2aca8-9f31-45a0-809a-06190c56b559/care-less-be-worse-the-environmental-news-rant
Send stories that fire you up to careless@circleb.co.
As November approaches, build your plan and make sure your voice and your vote count. Find your state’s voting information at https://vote.gov.
Background music courtesy of Arches Audio’s free song of the week, June 8, 2021.
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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1 hr 7 min
Less Bad Is Not Enough: David Gottfried On Regen360
Episode 307
Show notes
David Gottfried spent three decades proving that buildings can change how the world operates, and he has come to believe that is not nearly enough. The co-founder of the US Green Building Council and founder of the World Green Building Council watched his movement grow into a trillion-dollar economy, and he still sees the ship headed for the melting iceberg. In this conversation, he lays out the idea at the center of his book Regen360, an operating system for a regenerative Earth built on one question: does this choice increase life or degrade it? Along the way, David traces a thread from his father’s family-dinner lessons about net worth and self-worth to a third kind of wealth he calls soul worth, the part of us that survives the eulogy. He tells the story of falling off his bike on Mount Diablo and being pushed across the finish line by strangers, and what it taught him about the humility inside perseverance. He and Corinna also explore putting the E in humane, giving every part of yourself a seat at the table, and small choices anyone can make this week, from repairing instead of replacing to spending time outdoors with the people you love.
Show Notes:
[00:00] Intro [02:30] Moving Beyond "Less Bad" In Green Building
[04:38] The Scale And Limits Of The Global Green Movement
[09:52] Maintaining Hope Amidst Environmental Setbacks
[15:33] Lessons From A Visionary Father: Net Worth Vs. Self-Worth
[22:00] Cultivating Gratitude And The Whole Table Of Self
[29:51] Devotion Vs. Self-Harm: Pushing Physical Limits
[37:33] Shifting From Executive Burnout To Human Being
[46:28] The E-Revolution: Accelerating Human Evolution And Health
[51:55] Deep Plant Medicine Journeys And Internal Clarity
[57:50] Re-evaluating Wealth, Time, And What Truly MattersGuest Website: https://regen360.net/
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-gottfried-75835a2/
Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidgottfried/
Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@davidgottfried9610
Guest Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DavidGottfriedfan
Guest Substack: https://davidagottfried.substack.com/
Guest Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidgottfriedCONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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1 hr 4 min
Can Tenure Be More Humane? Ethics Of Care With Dr. Shawntal Brown
Episode 306
Show notes
Shawntal Z. Brown once wore the burnt orange blazer and bought into every part of the institution she worked for. After being laid off in 2024 amid a shifting legislative landscape in Texas, she began writing about what that experience taught her, and the result is a Substack with one of the most honest titles in higher education: Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back.
In this conversation, Shawntal and Corinna explore how belonging, power, and care play out inside universities, and why the tenure system, built to evaluate and rank people, struggles to center their humanity. They look at what a care-centered version of tenure might reward, including the community service that one professor was actually criticized for doing too much of. Shawntal shares what academic freedom looks like day to day in Texas, why DEI work is quietly moving underground rather than disappearing, and how to tell a symbolic gesture from structural change. Her answer is a task force that ends in a period when it should end in a comma.
The episode closes with a question for anyone who loves an institution that has not always loved them back: what is the cost, and what would it take to make these places more humane for the people inside them?
Time Stamps By Topic
02:10 Loving An Institution That Doesn't Love You Back 04:17 Exploring Power, Belonging, And Care In Institutional Life 11:47 The Complex Realities Of Tenure And Institutional Support 19:55 The Impact Of State Legislation On Academic Freedom 37:16 Redefining Service And Community Engagement 41:22 The Chilling Effect On Classroom Teaching And Academic Freedom 50:30 Moving Beyond Performative Task Forces Into Real Action 55:25 Recalibrating Expectations And The Future Of Higher Education
Resources and links
• Shawntal Z. Brown on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawntalbrown/
• Shawntal Z. Brown on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawntalzbrown.phd/
• Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back (Substack): https://lovinganinstitution.substack.com/
• Ethics of Care: Can Tenure Be More Humane?: https://lovinganinstitution.substack.com/p/ethics-of-care-can-tenure-be-more
• “Are we going to have a legacy or be forgotten?”: Organizational memory in an anti-DEI era, by Shawntal Z. Brown: https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fdhe0000735
• PEN America: https://pen.org/
• Texas Association of Diversity Officers in Higher Education: https://www.tadohe.com/
• American Association of University Professors: https://www.aaup.org/
• Iván Chaar López: https://www.ivanchaar.net/
• Brian Evans on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-evans-58a2b76
• Diane Gifford-Gonzalez on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-gifford-gonzalez-780522222
• The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath: https://www.amazon.com/Bell-Jar-Modern-Classics/dp/0060837020CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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38 min
Is Eco-Capitalism an Oxymoron? A Report From the Field with Dr. Corinna Bellizzi
Episode 305
Show notes
Is eco-capitalism an oxymoron? In this solo episode, show host, Dr. Corinna Bellizzi, opens with big news: Care More Be Better has joined The Democracy Group podcast network. From there, she turns to a question that has followed her through her entire career. She steelmans the skeptic, who sees growth mandates and externalized costs as structural flaws no ethical CEO can outrun, and the believer, who sees commerce as a lever too fast and too powerful to abandon. Then she offers a report from the field: building Nordic Naturals into a $100 million market leader, the compromises that came with it, the ocean science that led her to walk away, and the algae-based work at Örlö Nutrition that shows what regeneration can look like when it is built into a company's structure. She closes with three votes every listener casts daily, as a consumer, a worker, and an investor.
Episode blog page with transcript:
https://caremorebebetter.com/is-eco-capitalism-an-oxymoron-a-report-from-the-field/
In this episode, Corinna explores:
• 00:00 Why Care More Be Better joined The Democracy Group, and why sustainability is a democratic question
• 04:47 Can Markets & Ecology Coexist?
• 05:51 The skeptic's case: growth mandates, externalities, and why "sustainable capitalism" so often means sustaining capitalism (and not regeneration)
• 08:22 Ben & Jerry's: the skeptic's case in a single pint. How Ben & Jerry's mission protections held for two decades after they sold, then unraveled under Unilever's shift to sectioning off their ice cream business under Magnum
• 11:17 The believer's case: B Corps, regenerative farms, Patagonia's ownership shift, and the speed of market change
• 15:10 Building Nordic Naturals with founder Joar Opheim, and the compromises even responsible companies make
• 18:18 Examples of compromises: Fisheries, dolphins, PET plastic
• 20:54 Ocean acidification & the emergence of algae-based nutrition solutions
• 24:52 Circle B and how VAXA Technologies, Örlö Nutrition, and growing omega-3s with geothermal energy and circular design serve to make regeneration foundational
• 28:41 Reframing the question from sustainable to regenerative commerce
• 31:04 Three votes you cast every day: as consumer, worker, and investor
• 34:45 Why supporting higher education, including cause partner Prescott College, matters right nowResources and Links
• The Democracy Group: https://www.democracygroup.org/
• Prior Episode: Finding Common Ground in Hard Conversations with Corey Nathan: https://caremorebebetter.com/finding-common-ground-in-hard-conversations-with-corey-nathan/
• Prior Episode: How Corporations Socialize Costs in The Profiteers with Christopher Marquis: https://caremorebebetter.com/how-corporations-socialize-costs-in-the-profiteers-with-christopher-marquis/
• The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socializes Costs by Christopher Marquis: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/christopher-marquis/the-profiteers/9781668641583/
• Ben & Jerry's co-founder Jerry Greenfield resigns (NBC News): https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/ben-jerrys-co-founder-jerry-greenfield-resigns-unilever-campaigning-rcna231819
• Ben & Jerry's vs. Magnum: Timeline of the Governance Dispute (Dairy Reporter): https://www.dairyreporter.com/Article/2026/02/04/ben-jerrys-vs-magnum-timeline-of-the-governance-dispute/
• Patagonia: Earth Is Now Our Only Shareholder: https://www.patagonia.com/ownership/
• Vitamin Angels: https://vitaminangels.org/
• Banking on Climate Chaos 2026 report (Sierra Club): https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2026/06/new-report-global-banks-financed-fossil-fuels-87-trillion-paris-agreement
• Örlö Nutrition: https://orlonutrition.com/
• Isaac Berzin and VAXA (EIT Food): https://eitfood.eu/impact-story/isaac-berzin-vaxa
• Circle B: https://circleb.co/
• Prescott College: https://prescott.edu/CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-betterCAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/
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57 min
Shame Is Not A Health Plan: Coach Bill Hogarty On Our Kids and Families
Episode 304
Show notes
NOTE: This episode is intended for informational and entertainment purposes. Neither the host or guest are medical professionals, so this episode should not be construed as health advice. It not intended to treat, diagnose, or cure any health condition. N If you have specific concerns, please consult with your healthcare professional.
Coach Bill Hogarty spent most of his life in peak condition, won twelve bodybuilding titles including Mr. California, and assumed he understood health. Then a shoulder injury sidelined him, he gained weight, and he learned what it feels like to be on the other side of the gym floor. That experience gave him something his training never had: empathy. Today he channels it into the Kids Diabetes Foundation, built on a conviction that childhood insulin resistance is preventable and that telling a struggling parent they are failing their kid will never work. In this candid conversation, Bill and Corinna trade notes as two people who have spent decades in health and fitness, and they do not always agree. They dig into why BMI is a poor marker while A1C and body composition tell a truer story, why muscle functions as an endocrine organ that protects us as we age, and why abstinence-based rules tend to backfire while moderation sticks. Corinna pushes back on the language of shame and on the toll that diet culture took on her own generation, and Bill meets her there. Along the way you will pick up practical, low-drama tactics: let your kid pick one thing from the produce aisle and build a meal around it, walk 30 minutes a day with someone you love, and learn one number that most doctors never order.
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59 min
Climate And Code: Bridging The Digital Divide In Disaster Recovery With Monica Sanders
Episode 303
Show notes
When natural disasters strike, marginalized communities are often left behind without access to essential recovery resources or digital infrastructure. In her groundbreaking book Climate and Code: Building a Digital and Connected Climate-Resilient Future, Georgetown University Law Center professor and National Geographic Explorer Monica Sanders explores how law, community wisdom, and technology can bridge this gap to build disaster equity. Monica Sanders, founder of The Undivide Project, joins us for an insightful conversation on redefining resilience from the ground up. Drawing from her personal experience surviving Hurricane Katrina to examining digital redlining and community-led initiatives in Panama and Baltimore, Monica highlights why digital access is a critical lifeline during extreme weather events. Discover how centering local knowledge and co-creating digital solutions can empower communities to withstand environmental crises and shape a more resilient future.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/climate-and-code-bridging-the-digital-divide-in-disaster-recovery-with-monica-sanders/
About Guest:
Monica C. Sanders, JD, LL.M., is a law professor, author, journalist, and social entrepreneur working at the intersection of climate resilience, technology, and justice. A New Orleans native whose work was shaped by Hurricane Katrina, she founded The Undivide Project to help communities use digital infrastructure and data to strengthen disaster resilience, and Bonne Terre Labs to build decision-intelligence tools for more responsible infrastructure investment. Sanders teaches at Georgetown University Law Center, is a National Geographic Explorer and Forbes Senior Contributor, and previously held senior disaster, homeland security, and humanitarian roles in government and at the American Red Cross. Her new book, Climate and Code, explores how law and technology can help build a more resilient and equitable future.
Guest Website: https://www.monicacsanders.com/
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monicasanders12/
Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/monicadrrprof/
Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theundivideproject4007/videos
Resources Mentioned:
BOOK: Climate and Code: Building Digital Justice in a Connected World
Chapters with Time Stamps:
02:40 How Hurricane Katrina Shaped Disaster Resilience And Equity
07:38 Valuing Natural Systems: The Barataria Estuary As Environmental Infrastructure
12:14 Designing Technology With Communities, Not For Them
20:18 Digital Access As A Critical Component Of Climate Resilience
28:51 Data Centers, Hyperscale Tech, And Environmental Justice
38:27 Climate And Code: Leveraging AI Responsibly Without Losing Human Innovation
48:06 Actionable Steps To Build Equitable Community Resilience
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22 min
Can AI Be Used Responsibly? The Ethics of Care in a Machine Age with Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, MBA
Episode 302
Show notes
Almost every conversation about AI is about power — what it can do, what jobs it will replace, and who it will enrich. Almost no one is asking what it would mean to bring care to this technology. In this solo episode of Care More Be Better, host Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, draws on Carol Gilligan's ethics of care, her own doctoral research into regenerative enterprise, and her personal experience using Claude and ChatGPT in dissertation research to make the case that AI can be an amplifier of care — but only with intention, transparency, and accountability. She covers the copyright settlement Anthropic reached with authors in July 2026, the attention question, the RFK Jr. MAHA report hallucinations, and the four questions everyone should ask before adopting any AI tool.
Complete Blog: https://caremorebebetter.com/can-ai-be-used-responsibly-the-ethics-of-care-in-a-machine-age/
Chapter Markers
• 00:00 — Opening Question: What Does It Mean to Care When Machines Mediate How We Learn?
• 01:00 — Introduction: A Solo Episode on AI Ethics
• 02:00 — AI Is Already in Your Life Whether You Chose It or Not
• 03:00 — What Ethics of Care Actually Is — Gilligan, Noddings, and the Care Tradition
• 05:00 — Ethics of Care and Regeneration as Near-Synonyms
• 05:30 — The Care Questions AI Raises: Copyright, Ecology, Labor, Attention
• 06:00 — The Copyright Reckoning: Anthropic's $1.5B Settlement and 35+ Active Cases
• 06:30 — The Ecological Footprint: Water, Energy, and Whose Community Hosts the Data Center
• 07:00 — The Labor Question: Whose Words Trained the Model?
• 07:30 — The Attention Question: What Happens to Wonder When Answers Arrive Instantly?
• 08:00 — The Whale Bends Story — and What Was Lost
• 10:00 — Using AI in Doctoral Research: Building Intelligent Queries
• 12:00 — Claude vs. ChatGPT: The Hallucination Problem
• 13:30 — The RFK Jr. MAHA Report: What Happens When Nobody Checks
• 14:00 — Using Claude for the RSD15 Paper: Editing Without Outsourcing the Thinking
• 16:00 — AI in Podcast Production and the Disclosure Question
• 17:30 — The Website Disclaimer: What It Says and Why
• 18:30 — AI as Amplifier of Care — Used With Intention
• 19:00 — Four Questions to Ask Before Adopting Any AI Tool
• 20:00 — The Freedom Not to Use AI: Your Integrity Is Yours
• 20:30 — Closing: Embracing Technology with Intention, Purpose, and Integrity"Ethics of care moves us from thinking in rules and regulations, in inputs and outputs, to who is affected and what do they need. This show's name is essentially a care ethics thesis. Care more, be better. The order matters. You have to care first."
— Corinna Bellizzi, PhD | Care More Be Better | Episode #301
Resources and References:
• In a Different Voice — Carol Gilligan (1982)
• Caring: A Feminine Approach to Ethics — Nel Noddings (1984)
• The Ethics of Care — Virginia Held (2006)
• Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis — Paul Hawken
• Anthropic copyright settlement — Reuters
• MAHA Commission report — Washington Post coverage
• RSD15 Conference — Relating Systems Thinking and Design
• Claude — Anthropic
• DuckDuckGo — AI-free search option
• Brave Search
• Startpage
• AI Disclosure — caremorebebetter.com
• Scary Smart — Mo Gawdat
• From Ideas to Income with AI — Zach & Jason Francis, Ep. 296 (previous episode)CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
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57 min
Getting Unstuck: Facilitation, And The Work Of Values Alignment With Genevieve Smith
Episode 301
Show notes
Many social change organizations struggle to bridge the gap between the values displayed on their office walls and the actual practices in their daily operations. Achieving true values alignment requires navigating deep humanity, conflict, and the inevitable shame that arises during transitional periods. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Genevieve Smith, an organizational effectiveness consultant and founder of GV Advisory. Genevieve shares her unique approach as a "professional bummer" who facilitates difficult but necessary conversations around power sharing, organizational grief, and leadership transitions. She explains how drawing inspiration from preschool classrooms and using tools like the community garden metaphor can help teams get unstuck, build trust, and move from panic to practical solutions.
Full Blog Here: https://caremorebebetter.com/getting-unstuck-facilitation-and-the-work-of-values-alignment-with-genevieve-smith/
About Guest: Genevieve Smith is an organizational effectiveness consultant using a facilitative approach to her work with foundations and nonprofit organizations. She collaborates with companies on organizational effectiveness efforts, staff and board retreats, and helps them navigate conflict and grief. Genevieve's work tends to make the most sense for organizations in transition who have big questions about how to move forward and what to leave behind.
Guest Website: https://gv-advisory.com
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gvadvisorygv/Additional Resources Mentioned:
• The Revolution WIll Not Be Funded, INCITE! https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-will-not-be-funded-beyond-the-non-profit-industrial-complex-incite-women-of-color-against-incite/381bf42fe2436b30
• The Success Spectrum, Eugene Kim (of the collaboration gym): https://fasterthan20.com/workout/success-spectrum/
• Creative Destruction, Liberating Structures: https://www.liberatingstructures.com/creative-destructionChapter Markers:
01:04 The Evolution Of A "Professional Bummer" In Organizational Effectiveness
06:58 Navigating Massive Transitional Moments And Organizational Crisis
12:06 The AI Disruption: The Danger Of Polished Plans Over Rough Drafts
17:58 Grappling With Wealth And Philanthropy In The Social Sector
27:50 Power Sharing Vs. Abdication: Explaining "Power Under"
37:05 Tending To Acute Organizational Grief And Leadership Departures
42:00 The Myth Of Neutrality: How Everyday Actions Build Or Erode Trust
50:23 Getting Unstuck: Practical Tools And Experiments For Staff And LeadershipCONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
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53 min
Fit For Life At Any Age: Chef Babette Davis On Healing Addiction, Inflammation, And Poor Health Bonus
Show notes
This bonus episode revisits Corinna's Nutrition Without Compromise conversation with Chef Babette Davis, who was interviewed on Care More Be Better as Episode 174 in February 2024, roughly 6 months after this BONUS episode was originally recorded and shared on Nutrition Without Compromise. In this episode, they discuss:
• Babette's childhood: asthma, eczema, refined sugar and MSG addiction inherited from her mother's cooking
• The rough road through her 20s and 30s, including a seven-month battle with crack cocaine
• Meeting Randall in 1990: the Griffith Park run, her first vegan meal, and the two books that changed everything (Fit for Life and the Mucusless Diet Healing System)
• Food combining principles and why "mucus" is about systemic inflammation, not just congestion
• Honest talk on protein, B12, and omega-3s for plant-based eaters, plus personalizing nutrition through simple at-home testing
• Building Stuff I Eat, Inglewood's first vegan restaurant, and her advocacy with Mercy for AnimalsNotable quote: "All you have to do is have a little bit of knowledge of what foods to eat together that will eliminate so much of your indigestion." / "At 73 years old, I don't have to harm anyone to nourish myself."
Resources:
• Chef Babette on Instagram: https://instagram.com/chefbabette
• Chef Babette on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chefbabette
• Stuff I Eat (Inglewood, CA): https://www.stuffieat.com/
• Cash In On Cashews by Chef Babette Davis
• Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond: https://www.amazon.com/Fit-Life-Harvey-Diamond/dp/0446300152/
• Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret: https://www.amazon.com/Mucusless-Diet-Healing-System-Scientific/dp/1884772005CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
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1 hr 7 min
Inspired and Enraged: Wayne Pacelle on the War on Wildlife
Episode 300
Show notes
The federal government plans to kill 450,000 barred owls over 30 years to protect the northern spotted owl — while simultaneously narrowing the definition of harm under the Endangered Species Act to allow old-growth forest logging that will destroy the spotted owl's habitat.
Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for Humane Economy, joins Corinna Bellizzi to expose the timber industry logic behind both moves. Together, they explain what's happening to wild horses and wolves on America's public lands, and share what 35 years of animal protection work has taught Wayne about how a slippery slope can lead to environmental devastation. We must act to protect America's open spaces and wild habitats.
• 00:00 — Introduction: The Spotted Owl, the Barred Owl, and the Question of Whose Fault It Is
• 04:00 — The 14-Mile Zone of Life: How Much Room Do We Actually Share?
• 06:00 — The Northern Spotted Owl: History, Habitat, and the Timber Wars
• 10:00 — The Barred Owl Is Not Invasive: The Range-Expansion Argument
• 14:00 — Human Beings Crossed the Bering Land Bridge: Applying the Same Logic
• 18:00 — The Plan to Shoot 450,000 Owls: Why It Won't Work
• 20:00 — The Endangered Species Act: How the Definition of Harm Is Being Gutted
• 23:00 — The One Big Beautiful Bill and the 60% Timber Increase
• 27:00 — Old Growth Redwoods, Carbon, and the True Cost of Logging
• 30:00 — The Lawsuit and What Comes Next
• 32:00 — Wild Horses: 80,000 vs. 4.3 Million Cattle
• 36:00 — Wolves: Delisted for Politics, Hunted by Snowmobile
• 37:00 — Fertility Control as a Humane Alternative
• 39:00 — Why Every Animal Sequesters Carbon
• 40:00 — The Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Its Origins
• 44:00 — The Environmental Groups That Got This Wrong
• 47:00 — Direct Mail, Organizational Efficiency, and the 95% Program Model
• 50:00 — What Animal Wellness Action Has Actually Accomplished
• 53:00 — Wildfires, Forest Management, and Fossil Fuels
• 57:00 — The Colorado River and the Water Crisis
• 01:00:00 — What You Can Do: Congress, Donations, and Showing Up
• 01:02:00 — Closing: Inspired and EnragedResources
• Wayne Pacelle on LinkedIn
• Animal Wellness Action — animalwellnessaction.org
• Center for Humane Economy — humaneeconomy.org
• Wayne Pacelle on X
• Wayne Pacelle on Instagram
• The Bond — Wayne Pacelle
• The Humane Economy — Wayne Pacelle
• Action Alert: Barred Owl Kill Plan
• Action Alert: Endangered Species Act Definition of Harm
• Donate to Animal Wellness Action
• Aldo Leopold — A Sand County Almanac
• Bill McKibben on Ezra Klein ShowCONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
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1 hr 7 min
How Corporations Socialize Costs To Become Profiteers With Christopher Marquis
Episode 299
Show notes
For decades, large corporations have privatized their massive profits while quietly shifting environmental, social, and health costs onto the public. Unpacking these systemic costs is central to the discussion in The Profiteers, which diagnoses how business practices impact society at large. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi speaks with Christopher Marquis, Professor of Chinese Management at the University of Cambridge Judge Business School and author of Better Business, to analyze the hidden mechanics of corporate externalities. From plastics lobbying and regulatory co-optation to visionary models of regenerative agriculture and foundation ownership, they explore why exposing systemic corporate abuse is the first crucial step toward real reform. Discover how innovative enterprise models, policy levers, and conscious consumer choices can help build a truly sustainable and regenerative economy.
About Guest: Professor Marquis’ research and teaching focus on how some of the biggest crises of our day – including climate change, inequality, and discrimination – are intimately connected to how our current economic and societal systems prioritize accumulating and concentrating wealth for the few over the concerns and needs of everyone and everything else. His research and writing focus on the need to rebalance the interactions between corporations, governments, and civil society to deliver socially and environmentally beneficial outcomes to all. Marquis is the author of The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socialize Costs. His earlier books include the award-winning Better Business: How the B Corp Movement is Remaking Capitalism and Mao and Markets: The Communist Roots of Chinese Enterprise, which was a Financial Times Best Book of 2022. He has also authored more than 20 peer-reviewed academic articles and more than 50 Harvard business cases on topics related to social innovation, sustainable business and doing business in China. Professor Marquis served 2 terms as an Associate Editor at Administrative Science Quarterly and has also been a Senior Editor at Organization Science and Management and Organization Review. He has also served a term as Representative at Large for the International Association for Chinese Management Research (IACMR) and Organization and Management Theory Division, Academy of Management. Before returning to academia, Marquis was a Vice President and Technology Manager at JP Morgan Chase. He currently is on the sustainability advisory board of the French multinational Sanofi Consumer Healthcare.
Guest Website & Socials:
https://chrismarquis.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-marquis-3884834/
https://x.com/Chris_Marquis_
https://substack.com/@chrismarquisResources Mentioned:
BOOK: The Profiteers https://amzn.to/4zbwM66
BOOK: Better Business https://amzn.to/4crRPHFKey Topics Discussed (with time stamps):
01:32 Who Really Pays For Corporate Externalities?
07:22 The Plastic Dilemma: Rethinking Packaging In Sustainable Business
11:57 Privatizing Profits & Socializing Costs: Unpacking Corporate Externalities
20:37 Lessons From GE: How Shareholder Primacy Distorts Business Ethics
30:17 Big Tech And Algorithms: Profit Growth Vs. Corporate Accountability
36:30 Unpacking The Policy Debate: Plastic Lobbying & Chemical Recycling
44:19 Rethinking Lifecycles: Circularity And Extended Consumer Responsibility
51:58 Regenerative Agriculture: How Purpose-Driven Brands Restore Soil & Systems
01:00:02 Building A Regenerative Economy: Purpose-Driven Governance & Ownership
01:07:15 Conclusion & Takeaways: Empowering Individual Action and Policy ReformCONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
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51 min
"I've Never Had New Shoes Before." with Amy Fass, Shoes That Fit
Episode 298
Show notes
More than 1.3 million children in the United States are unsheltered — and for many of them, a pair of new athletic shoes is not a given but a barrier, to school attendance, to sports participation, to the simple feeling of belonging. Amy Fass, Executive Director of Shoes That Fit, joins Care More Be Better as the domestic companion to the earlier Because International conversation, bringing the lens of childhood shoe insecurity home. She and host Corinna Bellizzi explore what new shoes actually do for a child's self-esteem, the stories of children transformed by something as simple as a name-brand sneaker, the antiquated federal poverty line that leaves millions uncounted, and how to make a concrete difference when the scale feels overwhelming.
Chapter Markers
• 00:00 — Introduction: The Domestic Companion to The Shoe That Grows
• 04:00 — How Shoes That Fit Works: Schools, Partners, and the Model
• 10:00 — The Girl with the Box: 'I've Never Had New Shoes Before'
• 16:00 — Why Name Brands Matter: Self-Esteem and Belonging
• 22:00 — The Physical Cost of Ill-Fitting Shoes: Injuries, Attendance, and Barriers to Sport
• 28:00 — 1.3 Million Unsheltered Children and the Antiquated Poverty Line
• 34:00 — Corporate Partnerships: Nordstrom, Rack Room, GEICO, and On Running
• 40:00 — The 2025 Challenge: Tariffs, Shoe Donations, and the Donor Base That Stepped Up
• 46:00 — Building for Scale: Warehouse Model, Distribution, and the Waitlist
• 52:00 — Leadership Lessons: Resilience, Burnout, and Investing in People
• 58:00 — Advice for Aspiring Nonprofit Founders: Listen First
• 64:00 — Closing: Find One Concrete Thing and Do ItResources
• Amy Fass on LinkedIn
• Shoes That Fit — shoesthatfit.org
• Shoes That Fit on LinkedIn
• @shoesthatfitcharity on Instagram
• @shoesthatfitcharity on TikTok
• Shoes That Fit on X
• Nordstrom — Shoes That Fit partnership
• Rack Room Shoes
• On Running
• Because International — Ep. 289 (previous episode)
• Godfrey Coker — previous episode
• Lydiah Kemunto Bosire, 8B Education — previous episode
• The Grapes of Wrath — John SteinbeckDonate to Shoes That Fit: https://shoesthatfit.org
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53 min
Stem Cells: Your Body's Own Repair System | Christian Drapeau, MSc
Episode 297
Show notes
Do you know that your body possesses its own innate repair system through the power of regenerative medicine? Stem cell scientist and neurophysiologist Christian Drapeau, MSc joins the show to explore this fascinating topic and how ancient plants can support your body's natural ability to heal. Christian, who is the founder of the supplement company Stemregen and author of the book Cracking the Stem Cell Code, shares his groundbreaking research on how specific plant extracts can naturally stimulate the release of your own stem cells. We explore the paradigm shift in longevity science and how optimizing your innate repair system could change the way we approach health, aging, and disease recovery.
Health Disclaimer
Stemregen is a dietary supplement. Nothing in this episode constitutes medical advice or claims to treat, diagnose, or cure any disease. Stemregen supports the body's natural processes. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before beginning any new supplement. Corinna Bellizzi is not affiliated with Stemregen.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/the-body-as-a-repair-machine-a-deep-dive-into-stem-cells-and-regenerative-medicine-with-christian-drapeau-msc/
About Guest: Christian Drapeau, MSc is a stem cell scientist, neurophysiologist, medicinal plant explorer, and best-selling author with 35+ years in medical research. He was among the first scientists to propose in published literature that stem cells are the body's innate repair system - a paradigm shift now reshaping regenerative medicine and longevity science.
Driven by that discovery, Christian has traveled the world studying ancient plants that naturally support the body's ability to release and deploy its own stem cells. He has lectured in 50+ countries, authored five books, including Cracking the Stem Cell Code, and is the Founder and Chief Science Officer of STEMREGEN. His work bridges rigorous science with nature's intelligence, making regeneration accessible to everyone.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-drapeau
Guest Website: https://stemregen.co/ | https://www.francisbrothers.com/
Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stemcellchristian/
Guest TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stemcellchristian
Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@stemregen
Additional Resources Mentioned:
BOOK: Cracking the Stem Cell Code by Christian Drapwau, MSc
Chapter Markers for Key Topics:
00:00 - Stem Cells: The Body's Natural Defense
05:46 - Debunking The Myths Of Stem Cell Research
09:37 - Understanding The Body’s Innate Repair System
16:41 - Healing Injuries: Injections Vs. Natural Stimulation
24:56 - Ethical Sourcing And The Future Of Plant-Based Medicine
34:37 - Measuring Stem Cell Migration And Healing
44:33 - The Economy Of Health: Regenerating The Human Body
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1 hr 1 min
From Ideas to Income with AI | Zach And Jason Francis
Episode 296
Show notes
Zach and Jason Francis have spent their careers proving that doing more with less is not a constraint — it's a philosophy — from a nine-month sailing trip from San Diego to Australia to building tiny homes on HGTV's Tiny Luxury to Willo, an AI platform that takes a business idea from concept to live website in under ten minutes. The brothers join Care More Be Better to share what 21 days at sea taught them about complexity, why ideas die in spreadsheets, how AI agents work like bees in a hive, and how to use AI as a tool that empowers rather than replaces the human behind the vision.
Chapter Markers
• 00:00 — Introduction: The Through Line from Tiny Homes to AI Agents
• 05:00 — Building with a Sibling: Trust, Security, and the Ability to Argue Without Fragility
• 12:00 — The Sailing Trip: 21 Days at Sea and What You Actually Need
• 18:00 — Tiny Luxury to Willo: The Philosophy Was Always the Same
• 24:00 — Complexity Kills: Getting from Zero to One
• 30:00 — What Willo Actually Does: From Idea to Live Website in 8-10 Minutes
• 38:00 — The Seven Agent System: Proactive vs. Reactive AI
• 44:00 — How Willo Differs from Claude, ChatGPT, and Agentic Tools
• 50:00 — AI Energy Footprint: Stewardship Over Avoidance
• 56:00 — The Beehive: How Nature Informs Willo's Agent Design
• 62:00 — Pricing, Roadmap, and What's Next for WilloCOMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/from-ideas-to-income-with-ai-zach-and-jason-francis/
About Guests: Brothers Zach and Jason Francis are serial entrepreneurs, builders, and prior hosts of the straight-to-series reality HGTV TV show Tiny Luxury. Over the years, they have built, acquired, and invested in companies spanning real estate, media, software, and artificial intelligence. Their mission is to make entrepreneurship more accessible by simplifying the process of building and growing a business. As the founders of Willo, they are helping a new generation of entrepreneurs turn ideas into real businesses with the power of AI. Beyond business, Zach and Jason are real estate developers, AI investors, beekeepers, sailors, adventurers, and family men who are passionate about creating meaningful companies, exploring new opportunities, and helping others build lives and businesses on their own terms.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zach-francis-750200157/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-francis7/
Guest Website: https://willo.ai/ | https://www.francisbrothers.com/
Guest Socials: https://www.youtube.com/@buildwithwillo | https://x.com/BuildwithWillo | https://www.facebook.com/buildwithwillo/
Additional Resources Mentioned:
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27 min
Season 1 Finale: Angela Glover Blackwell's Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life — Chapter 6: Hope is a Discipline Bonus
Show notes
This is a bonus episode. Back on Juneteenth, we shared Episode 1 of Angela Glover Blackwell's Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life. Last Wednesday, you heard our full conversation with Angela. Today, we're closing that loop with Chapter 6, the final episode of Season 1: Hope Is a Discipline. Angela and choreographer Ana Maria Alvarez explore how art moves a place, and a country, from resistance to creation, with stops along the way for joy, honest pushback on whether LA is really "the model," and a reminder from Mariame Kaba that hope has to be practiced, not just felt. Season 2, focused on Georgia, is out now.
Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life is a podcast created by PolicyLink in partnership with Pineapple Street Studios.
Chapter Markers
• 00:00 — Cold open: Charles White's mural and Angela's reflection on Black artists in the fight for democracy
• 03:32 — Show intro: welcome to Chapter 6, Hope Is a Discipline
• 07:17 — Ana Maria Alvarez on Contra-Tiempo Activist Dance Theater and art as resistance
• 09:15 — Intergenerational organizing: Ana Maria's parents and the village that built PolicyLink
• 10:33 — Resistance as a healthy democratic practice, the salsa metaphor
• 12:53 — Joy as fuel for the movement, adrienne maree brown and Pleasure Activism
• 15:25 — Is LA the model? Denise Fairchild's honest pushback
• 16:31 — Manuel Pastor: "a thing of beauty with our friends"
• 17:35 — Anthony Thigpen: standing at the brink
• 18:30 — 2024, the biggest global election year in history
• 21:00 — Hope is a discipline, the Mariame Kaba idea
• 22:07 — Justin Jones and Justin Pearson: expelled, reinstated, undeterred
• 23:17 — Fight for 15, ROC United, and the New Georgia Project with Nse Ufot
• 25:58 — Closing reflection and Shanaka Hodge's poem
• 27:22 — Angela's closing charge, credits, and a call to voteResources & Links
• Follow Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life: wherever you listen to podcasts! Season 2: Georgia is available now: https://www.policylink.org/resources/podcasts
• Learn more about PolicyLink: https://www.policylink.org/
• Listen to our full interview with Angela Glover Blackwell (Episode 294): https://caremorebebetter.com/reimagining-democracy-with-angela-glover-blackwell/
• Revisit our Juneteenth share of Episode 1: Los Angeles: https://caremorebebetter.com/juneteenth-feature-angela-glover-blackwells-reimagining-democracy-for-a-good-life-episode-1-los-angeles/
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1 hr 4 min
Why Recycling Isn't Enough (Tom Szaky Explains)
Episode 295
Show notes
Are you tired of feeling helpless about our growing global garbage crisis? Host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Tom Szaky, the visionary founder and CEO of TerraCycle and Loop, to discuss why we must start Rethinking Waste. Szaky explains how his companies are transforming hard-to-recycle items, like cigarette butts and dirty diapers, into valuable resources. They unpack how the modern concept of disposability has failed us and why a circular economy is the target for sustainable social impact. You'll discover how the chess pieces of business and policy must align to drive scalable, real-world change. This eye-opening discussion will challenge you to reconsider everything you buy and throw away.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/nature-has-no-concept-of-waste-tom-szaky-on-terracycle-loop-eliminating-disposability/
About Guest: Tom Szaky is founder and CEO of TerraCycle, a global leader in the collection and repurposing of complex waste streams. TerraCycle operates in 20 countries, working with some of the world’s largest brands, retailers and manufacturers to create national platforms to recycle products and packaging that otherwise go to landfill or incineration. It also created a new circular reuse platform called Loop that enables consumers to purchase products in reusable packaging. Tom and TerraCycle have received hundreds of awards and recognition from organizations including the United Nations, World Economic Forum, Fortune Magazine and U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Tom is the author of four books, Revolution in a Bottle, Outsmart Waste, Make Garbage Great and The Future of Packaging.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomszaky/ Guest Website: https://www.terracycle.com/en-US/
Additional Resources Mentioned: BOOK: Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation: https://amzn.to/4gwCXIE BOOK: Carbon: The Book of Life: https://amzn.to/4kQi9xL
Time Stamps: 00:58 00:00 - Why True Change Starts With Natural Capitalism 05:10 02:45 - The Hidden Cost Of An Unsexy Utility 08:11 05:30 - Flipping The Economics Of Trash On Its Head 07:37 09:40 - Surviving The Scrutiny Of The System 13:18 13:15 - The Logistics Of Sorting The Unsortable 34:36 17:50 - Designing For Reuse In A Convenient World 52:16 23:20 - Democratizing Capital For A Cleaner Future
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1 hr 6 min
Hope Is a Discipline: Angela Glover Blackwell on Democracy, Equity, and Human Flourishing
Episode 294
Show notes
Democracy isn't just something we vote for once every few years, it's something we build together, in our neighborhoods, city halls, and everyday relationships. Corinna Bellizzi is joined by Angela Glover Blackwell, founder of PolicyLink and host of Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life, who has spent more than 50 years working at the intersection of racial equity, housing, and civic life. Angela reflects on how growing up during segregation shaped her understanding of community and leadership, explains why she defines democracy as "co-governance for human flourishing," and makes the case that America may be ready for a third founding. She also shares how tools like civic assemblies and participatory budgeting can restore civic life, and why joy has to remain at the center of any vision for real change.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/reimagining-democracy-with-angela-glover-blackwell
About Guest: Angela Glover Blackwell has spent over 50 years working at the intersection of racial equity, housing, and civic life. As the founder of PolicyLink and host of the podcast Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life, she provides a roadmap for rebuilding our communities. In this episode, we discuss why true democracy requires co-governance and active participation from every citizen. We explore how to cultivate joy in our activism and why local leadership is the key to national change. You'll learn how to navigate the complexities of our changing demographics while building a future where everyone can reach their full potential.
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-glover-blackwell
Guest Website: https://policylink.org/
Guest Social:https://www.youtube.com/policylink
PODCAST: Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life On PolicyLink.com On Spotify On Apple Podcasts
Chapter Markers
• 00:00 — Introduction: Bioneers, PolicyLink, and Reimagining Democracy
• 05:45 — Early Lessons in Segregation and Resilience: Growing Up in 1950s St. Louis
• 12:30 — Founding PolicyLink: Bridging Community Work and National Policy
• 18:15 — Recreating Civic Life: Civic Assemblies, Participatory Budgeting, and Mutual Aid
• 26:40 — Democracy as Co-Governance for Human Flourishing
• 33:00 — The Third Founding: Why the Nation's Mechanisms Have Outgrown Themselves
• 38:00 — Joy in Activism: Adrienne Maree Brown and What Los Angeles Taught Angela
• 44:10 — Patience, Impatience, and Why We Must Stop Being Nostalgic for a Time That Never Was
• 50:00 — Season 2 of Reimagining Democracy: Atlanta, the Curb Cut Effect, and Hartsfield-Jackson
• 58:00 — Hope Is a Discipline: Answering the Listener Who Has Lost Faith
• 64:00 — The Third Founding, Future Cities, and What Comes NextBUILD A GREENER FUTURE with CARE MORE BE BETTER: Together, we planted 36,044 trees in 2025 through our partnership with ForestPlanet. We screamed past our goal of planting 20,000 trees thanks to subscribers like you!
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