Nature Revisited

Scott Stokoe is a Vermont-based ecologist and educator who works with institutions to develop and expand their offerings in sustainability education through the creation of hands-on, applied learning.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Scott returns to discuss the looming climate crisis and how the solution lies not with identifying the problems we face nor in the way we communicate them, but in changing the very mental models culturally instilled in us - paradigms which fundamentally shape the way we view the natural world and our place within it. [Originally published May 12, 2025. Ep 146]

Recommended Resources:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34956707-being-salmon-being-human

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/314114.The_Web_of_Life
https://www.fritjofcapra.net/

https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/thinking-in-systems/
https://donellameadows.org/

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Madison Murphy Barney is an Indigenous sister, author, doula, and story-driven strategist. Across her work, she operates under the truth that when we are guided by the wisdom of our bodies, our communities, and our stories we make better decisions, strengthen trust, and increase impact.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Barney weaves the guiding attributes of mushrooms and ancestral wisdom into an inspiring metaphor that calls us back into the right relationship with each other and with our planet. Barney invites us into a more engaged life with the world and ourselves by embodying the innate qualities of the wondrous mycelial world.

Madison's website: https://madisonmurphybarney.com/
Madison's book: https://redwheelweiser.com/book/our-ancestors-want-us-to-be-mushrooms-9781578639236/?

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Gary Paul Nabhan is an agricultural ecologist, ethnobotanist, and award-winning author whose work focuses primarily on the plants and cultures of the desert American Southwest. He is considered a pioneer in the local food movement and the heirloom seed saving movement.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Gary recounts the fascinating story of his life, tracing his transformation from a neurodivergent boy finding refuge in nature to a pathbreaking scientist-activist working at the intersection of ecology, faith, and community resilience. His recent memoir Water In The Desert, serves as an inspiring guide to the deeply collaborative ethic and practice of care required to flourish in kinship on Earth, offering in the process a vision for cultural renewal.

Water In The Desert book: https://milkweed.org/book/water-in-the-desert?srsltid=AU7gw4V1R9v04Hma1LCipBd9cMCppDYrRWb6ot5vNykEDrHfsNbS6H7j

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Tamara Dean is the author of The Human-Powered Home as well as short stories and essays which have appeared in The American Scholar, The Georgia Review, the Guardian, STORY Magazine, and numerous other publications.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Tamara relates an array of personal experiences that culminated in her latest work Shelter and Storm: At Home in the Driftless, based on her time living in the Driftless region of Wisconsin. Seeking a way to live lightly on the earth in the midst of climate chaos, her quest drew her to a unique landscape untouched by glaciers. It was there that she confronted the challenges of meeting basic needs while facing the ravages of climate change. [Originally published April 28, 2025. Ep 145]

Tamara Dean's website: https://tamaradean.media/
Shelter and Storm book: https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517918569/shelter-and-storm/

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Michael Carter, Jr. is an agricultural innovator and educator in Unionville, Virginia. He has dedicated his career to advancing sustainable farming practices and promoting African heritage in agriculture. Michael’s international experiences, including work in Ghana, Israel, and Kenya, have shaped his holistic approach to farming. He works on his family’s farm, Carter Farms, and founded Africulture, a nonprofit organization that teaches the principles, plants, and practices of African-descended agriculture while fostering cultural and racial identity.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Carter presents an eclectic brew of history, culture, African-centered perspectives, and African American farm realities. He recalls inspiring stories of African innovators as well as sobering facts tracking the severe decline in the number of Black farmers in the United States over the last century. Drawing on the lifecycle of a plant as a metaphor for both individual growth and the larger story of African American farming, Carter evokes the relationship between soil health (metaphorically, society and community) and plant health (i.e., the ability of Black farmers and families to thrive). When the civil rights gains and progress toward economic parity for Black Americans of the past fifty years may be slipping away, Carter envisions a better future through several foundational principles of Africulture.

Africulture Book: https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/africulture/?srsltid=AU7gw4V_Y3MTborR3SCm70RcdrPV2gUF5aoLcelWuGj85RBGejGts7Gi

https://learnafriculture.com/
https://thecarterfarms.com/
https://blackfarmersindex.com/

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David James Duncan is an American novelist and essayist, known for his two cult bestselling novels, The River Why and The Brothers K, among others. On this episode of Nature Revisited, farmer and author Scott Chaskey (Soil and Spirit) interviews David about his latest acclaimed work Sun House, an "epic comedy about the quest for transcendence in an anything-but-transcendent America, set amid the gorgeous landscapes of the American west". Guided by Chaskey's deft observations, Duncan describes how a lifetime of experiences - many drawn from nature itself - served as inspiration for Sun House's sweeping, lyrical vision of a more open-hearted world. [Originally published April 14, 2025. Ep 144]

David's website: https://www.davidjamesduncan.com/
Sun House book: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/david-james-duncan/sun-house/9780316129374/

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David George Haskell is a British and American biologist, writer, and a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist in General Nonfiction. Haskell holds degrees from the University of Oxford (BA), Cornell University (PhD) and is Adjunct Professor in the Department of Environmental Sciences at Emory University in Atlanta.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Haskell examines the role flowers played in creating the world we know today. When they evolved, they remade the natural world: Gorgeous petals and alluring aromas transformed former enemies into cooperative partners. The radical genetic flexibility of flowers allowed them to build and sustain rainforests, savannahs, prairies, and even ocean shores. Flowers catalyzed human evolution, and we now depend on them for food and a healthy planet.

https://dghaskell.com
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/775876/how-flowers-made-our-world-by-david-george-haskell/

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Dorn Cox is a farmer-technologist, the research director for the Wolfe’s Neck Center for Agriculture and the Environment in Freeport, Maine, and farms with his family on 250 acres in Lee, New Hampshire. He is a founder of the farmOS software platform and Farm Hack, and is active in the soil health movement.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Dorn breaks down his radical vision of hope for the future of healthy regenerative agriculture. By employing the same data-sharing and networking tools used to visualize and identify the global instability in our climate and our communities, there is potential to revolutionize how we manage food production around the world, decentralizing and deindustrializing the structures and governance that have long dominated the agricultural landscape. [Originally published March 11, 2025. Ep 143]

The Great Regeneration book: https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-great-regeneration/

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Marina Richie is an award-winning nature writer. With degrees in Journalism and Biology, she has led conservation initiatives as a communications director, authored two children’s nature books, penned award-winning wayside exhibits, and now dedicates her time to writing books, poetry, and advocating for wildlands and wildlife.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Richie takes us into the ancient forests of Cascadia, a bioregion which rivals the Amazonian rainforest in significance for climate and biodiversity. These 'feathered forests' are a hidden vertical world of wild trees that are home to an incredible array of bird species. These birds are guides to intricate and imperiled communities thriving at every level, from understory to midstory to overstory. They steer us to cool havens within multilayered, centuries-old groves that are critical refugia in a time of climate crisis. Their songs and flights show us what we must protect for the future of threatened birds, forests, and humankind.

https://www.marinarichie.com
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/827850/feathered-forest-by-marina-richie/

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Jon Waterman is a former park ranger, wilderness guide, and a prolific author of books on adventure, exploration, and the environment.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Jon recounts his decades-long history of explorations of the Alaskan Arctic. Having returned to the Noatak headwaters after 30 years in 2021, Waterman was shocked by the environmental and cultural changes wrought by the climate crisis. As in his book 'Into the Thaw', Waterman paints for our listeners an intimate portrait of both the villages and the little-visited landscape, suggesting actions we can all take to slow the thaw and preserve what is left of the remarkable, vast Arctic frontier. [Originally published Mar 4th, 2025. Ep 142]

Into the Thaw book: https://jonathanwaterman.com/books/into-the-thaw/
Jon's website: https://jonathanwaterman.com/

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Giulio Boccaletti, PhD is a British-Italian author, water expert, and climate scientist. His work has been at the intersection of geophysical and ecological science, public policy, and business strategy. Water security and our relationship with Earth's climate are particular interests of his as are the institutions that we need to govern our environment. Boccaletti is the Scientific Director of the Euro-Mediterranean Center on Climate Change, where he directs the largest Italian research institution devoted to the science and economics of climate change.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Boccaletti proposes a bold new conception of an environmental republic for our planet in crisis. Balancing individual liberty with collective responsibility, he presents a path to sustaining our life together on a changing planet, reframing our relationship to the environment not as a constraint on liberty but as its republican foundation. Reflecting upon the deep failure of our political institutions, Boccaletti challenges the false choice between environmental protection and human freedom, showing how place-based institutions can deliver both sustainability and human development through true self-governance.

https://www.giulioboccaletti.com/
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691262000/the-environmental-republic

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Ellen Zachos is a Harvard graduate, former Broadway actor, professional gardener and the author of eleven books including, most recently, Mythic Plants: Potions and Poisons from the Gardens of the Gods.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Ellen shares her varied personal background and takes us back to revisit the Greek myths anew by focusing on the fascinating roles plants play in the stories. Many of the mythic plants were real and still exist today, and Ellen colorfully describes how the ancient Greeks used these plants in their lives and loves and conquests. [Originally published Feb 18th, 2025. Ep 141]

Mythic Plants book: https://www.amazon.com/Mythic-Plants-Potions-Poisons-Gardens/dp/1523524391

Ellen's website: https://backyardforager.com

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Cal Flyn is an award-winning writer from the Highlands of Scotland. She writes creative nonfiction, literary criticism, and long-form journalism. Cal’s journalistic writing has been published in Granta, National Geographic, The Wall Street Journal, The Sunday Times, The Economist, and others.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Flyn poses the question "What is Wilderness"? For thousands of years, people have sought out uncontrolled, unknown, or uncharted nature in search of religious epiphany, self-actualization, and an escape from modern life. But having traversed the most forbidding, untamed and inhospitable wild lands—the supposedly uninhabited wilds of the world—she found that such truly untouched lands don't exist: Nearly every wilderness has been or is actively inhabited by humans. By viewing the notion of wilderness as a human construct, Flyn reveals how much we can still discover in wilderness, both as an idea and a vital part of the living world.

www.calflyn.com/
www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/761751/the-savage-landscape-by-cal-flyn/

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The author of more than 20 books, Dr. Vandana Shiva is an Indian scholar, environmental activist, food sovereignty advocate, ecofeminist and anti-globalization writer.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Dr. Shiva lays out the emergency we all face: extinction, climate havoc and the global food crisis. Our future, Shiva argues, lies in following the ecological laws of the earth by de-colonising, decreasing food miles, de-industrialising and de-globalizing food systems. A future sustained by biodiversity, local foods, and end to deforestation and an ethical and organic farming system in which degenerative cycles are transformed into regenerative cycles. [Originally published Feb 4th, 2025. Ep 140]

The Nature of Nature book: https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-nature-of-nature/?srsltid=AfmBOopoMS7HWvhvhgL3CXNdWorE9CYdN82f3eIB6cNEv2Y9aEy91Nwc

https://navdanyainternational.org/
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Richard Louv is an American journalist and Audubon Medal winning author best known for his 2005 bestselling book Last Child in the Woods. His work focuses heavily on the psychological, physical, and cognitive benefits of human-nature interaction across all ages. He coined the term "nature-deficit disorder" to describe the behavioral and health consequences of children becoming increasingly detached from unstructured, outdoor play and the natural world.

On this episode, Louv returns to Nature Revisted to talk about discovering who we are by noticing things about the natural world through exploration. Louv shows how, by tapping into the thirty or more human senses we have, we can develop skills––sensory, scientific, artistic, and spiritual––to see, experience, and become enchanted by the otherworlds of nature.

https://richardlouv.com
https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/richard-louv/noticing/9781643753034/

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Eiren Caffall is an award-winning writer and musician whose writing on loss and nature, oceans and extinction has appeared in numerous publications.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Caffall talks about her recent first novel The Mourner’s Bestiary, a literary memoir on loss and chronic illness, as well as a meditation on grief and survival told through the stories of animals in collapsing marine ecosystems.

Caffall carries a family legacy of two hundred years of genetic kidney disease, raising a child who may also. As she describes, the process of writing the book was a way for her to weave environmental research with a memoir of generational healing, and the work it takes to get there for the human and animal lives caught in tides of loss. [Originally published Jan 20th, 2025. Ep 139]

https://www.eirencaffall.com

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Dillon Osleger is a scientist, writer, and environmental advocate whose work is anchored in society's relationship with wild and rapidly changing environments. With an academic background in geology, ecology, and climate science, he has spent over a decade working on trail restoration, land management, and public lands policy across the American West.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Osleger reminds us of the forgotten trails of the Western United States. One of the greatest infrastructure investments in the nation’s history—paths through our public lands—has been rubbed away by time and deliberate neglect. As federal investment dwindles, more than two-thirds of a nationwide network of wagon roads, water sources, trap lines, and Indigenous trading trails and campgrounds have gradually been erased from the map. Asking how we can better care for the places that are claimed for the American public, Osleger offers a land ethic born of joy in stewardship, attention to history and community, and living and treading lightly.

https://dillonosleger.com/
https://www.heydaybooks.com/catalog/trail-work/

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Amy Tan is an American author best known for her novel The Joy Luck Club (1989) as well as other novels, short story collections, children's books, and a memoir. Tan is the recipient of the National Humanities Medal, among other awards, and her writing has been praised for its bravery in exploring both the personal struggles and triumphs of immigrant families.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Tan discusses her latest work The Backyard Bird Chronicles. What initially began as a way to find respite from the country's increasing social division, hostility and misinformation, the act of observing and drawing the birds in her backyard became something greater - a meaningful way to connect with nature, and imagine the intricate lives of the birds she admired. [Originally published Jan 6th, 2025. Ep 138]

The Backyard Bird Chronicles: https://www.bookpassage.com/book/9780593536131

Amy's website: https://amytan.net/

American Bird Conservancy: https://abcbirds.org/

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Miriam Horn is an author, environmental advocate, journalist and filmmaker. Her background includes work for the Environmental Defense Fund and the U.S. Forest Service in Colorado, working on habitat conservation, landowner and community partnerships, and public education. Her latest book Homesick for a World Unknown is the first full biography of wildlife biologist, conservationist and author George B. Schaller.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Horn recalls the extraordinary life and work of George B. Schaller, who studied and saved more charismatic megafauna than anyone before or since. Schaller is recognized by many as the world's preeminent field biologist, studying wildlife throughout Africa, Asia and South America, and his field research spanning more than five decades has helped shape wildlife protection efforts around the world.

https://miriamhorn.com/
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/635282/homesick-for-a-world-unknown-by-miriam-horn/

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Patrick Dougherty is an award-winning American environmental artist best known for his sculptures and installations constructed with sticks and saplings. Over his decades-long career he has constructed over 300 works across the United States and abroad.

On this episode of Nature Revisited, Patrick describes his works and the personal history of his artistic career, his sources of inspiration, as well as the unusual large-scale, temporary characteristics of his outdoor installations which invite the engagement and interaction of the communities in which they are created. [Originally published Dec 23rd, 2024. Ep 137]

Patrick's website: http://www.stickwork.net/

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