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Not Special: A Liberty Speaks Show
Real people. Real stories. Real growth. Not Special is a leadership podcast built around honest, in-person conversations with interesting people from across America. Herb and Corrie Thompson explore personal growth, purpose, and the experiences that shaped who their guests are: the wins, failures, wrong turns, hard lessons, and moments that changed everything. Some served in the military. Others built businesses, led organizations, or followed unconventional paths. Their title isn’t the story. The person is.
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- #122
- Episodes
- 52
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 1 hr 17 min
- On air since
- 2025
- Latest episode
- 6 days ago
Episodes
52 episodes, newest first
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2 hr 1 min
From Green Beret to Smokejumper | Aaron Todd
Season 3, Episode 51
Show notes
Aaron Todd has been a Marine, Army Green Beret, smokejumper, rodeo cowboy, and Montana outfitter. He's spent his life pursuing adventure, from combat deployments overseas to parachuting into remote wilderness to fight wildfires.
But the experiences he values most aren't necessarily the ones you'd expect.
In this episode of *Not Special*, Aaron joins Herb and Corrie Thompson to share his journey through Special Forces, wildland firefighting, and life in Montana. He recounts the remarkable story of smuggling a dog home from Syria, the challenges of becoming a smokejumper after serving as a Green Beret, and why rodeoing with his children may be the greatest adventure of all.
It's a conversation about courage, family, identity, and discovering what matters most after a lifetime of chasing extraordinary experiences.
Part of *Americana Series: Montana*, produced by Liberty Speaks.
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1 hr 37 min
Nic McKinley: From CIA Operative to Fighting Human Trafficking
Season 2, Episode 50
Show notes
What does a former CIA operative know about human trafficking that most Americans don't?
Nic McKinley went from growing up in foster care to becoming an Air Force Pararescueman, serving with the CIA, and founding DeliverFund, an organization dedicated to fighting human trafficking through intelligence, data, and technology.
During an operation in Afghanistan, Nic encountered information about children being trafficked and exploited. That experience helped change the direction of his life.
In this episode of Not Special, Nic joins Herb and Corrie Thompson for the fourth conversation in their Americana Series: Montana.
Together, they discuss the realities of CIA operations, the misconceptions surrounding human trafficking in America, why traditional approaches often fall short, and how DeliverFund helps law enforcement identify and stop traffickers.
But Nic's story goes beyond his military and intelligence career. He also shares what growing up in foster care taught him, how he approaches failure, the importance of family, and why success means something different to him today.
It's a conversation about purpose, leadership, service, and choosing what matters most.
Learn more about DeliverFund: https://deliverfund.org
Not Special is produced by Liberty Speaks. Follow the show for more conversations from the Americana Series: Montana.
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1 hr 57 min
The Battle That Nearly Killed This Green Beret | Dave Kenney
Season 2, Episode 49
Show notes
Green Beret Dave Kenney survived more than two decades in U.S. Army Special Forces, including deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. But the fight that nearly killed him came after the uniform.
After years of combat, traumatic brain injuries, PTSD, and struggling with alcohol, Dave found himself drinking two fifths of vodka a day. His marriage ended, his relationship with his children suffered, and his health deteriorated to the point that doctors told him there was little more they could do.
He was sent home to die.
He didn't.
In this episode of Not Special's Americana Series: Montana, Dave joins Herb and Corrie Thompson for a deeply personal conversation about combat, addiction, suicide, fatherhood, faith, military transition, and rebuilding a life after hitting rock bottom.
Dave shares what finally changed, how he found his way back to his children, and why he now helps other veterans facing their darkest moments.
They also discuss the loss of identity after military service, the courage it takes to ask for help, and why sometimes the heaviest thing in the world is a cell phone.
This isn't a story about a broken veteran. It's a story about a man who found a reason to keep living.
About the Americana Series: Montana
Herb and Corrie traveled to Montana for five conversations about service, family, failure, purpose, and the experiences that shape who we become.
Follow Not Special on Apple Podcasts for more conversations about the extraordinary stories found in ordinary people.
If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, call or text 988. Veterans can call 988 and press 1 for the Veterans Crisis Line.
Series Partners: GOVX, loanDepot, Alliance Nationwide Exposition, and Bellator Recruiting Academy.
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2 hr 42 min
The Army Botched His Surgery. He Refused to Let It Define Him. | Cameron Cushman
Season 2, Episode 48
Show notes
The Army botched Cameron Cushman’s surgery. What followed changed nearly every part of his life.
Cameron Cushman is an Army veteran, Afghanistan veteran, filmmaker, and documentary producer whose life changed after a surgery at Fort Hood led to years of serious medical complications. Cameron shares his experience with military medical care, gastroparesis, chronic illness, anxiety, veteran mental health, and being told he might never work again.
But that isn’t where his story ends.
In this episode of The Not Special Show’s Americana Series – Montana, Cameron sits down with Herb and Corrie Thompson to talk about serving in the U.S. Army, deploying to Afghanistan, his medical journey after Fort Hood, leadership, resilience, personal growth, becoming a filmmaker, fatherhood, mental health, and refusing to let his circumstances define him.
Cameron also takes us behind the scenes of *Break In Case of War*, his upcoming military documentary, and explains why he believes filmmaking and veteran storytelling can make a real difference.
This is a conversation about military service, adversity, family, filmmaking, and what happens when the life you expected disappears and you have to build something new.
The Americana Series - Montana was made possible with the support of our partners: GOVX https://www.govx.com/ , loanDepot https://www.loandepot.com/home-loans/va-loan , Alliance Nationwide Exposition https://alliance-exposition.com/ , and Bellator Recruiting Academy https://www.bellatorrecruiting.org/ .
We’re grateful to each of them for believing in what we’re building and helping us bring these stories to life.
Follow Not Special as Herb and Corrie Thompson travel to Montana to share five very different American stories.
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1 hr 7 min
Andy Stumpf: Identity, Failure, Fatherhood & Truth
Season 2, Episode 47
Show notes
Andy Stumpf spent more than 17 years as a Navy SEAL, served with SEAL Team Six, became a record-setting wingsuit pilot, entrepreneur, author and host of the Cleared Hot podcast.
But those are things he’s done. They aren’t who he is.
For the first episode of The Americana Series: Montana, we traveled to sit down with Andy for a conversation about identity, failure, leadership, marriage, fatherhood and what happens when the life you built your identity around begins to disappear.
Andy talks about nearly losing his Trident early in his career, leaving the SEAL Teams after being injured, the difference between good and bad leadership, and why tying your identity too closely to your occupation can make moving on so difficult.
He also opens up about divorce, raising children, building businesses, finding happiness, moving his family to Montana and why he tries not to measure his life by accomplishments.
When we ask Andy what he values most in life, his answer is immediate: truth.
That leads to a candid discussion about Roberts Ridge, John Chapman, the Medal of Honor, the Rangers who fought on Takur Ghar, and Andy’s years-long effort to understand what happened on that mountain.
This is Andy Stumpf beyond the résumé.
The Americana Series: Montana - Episode One.
Follow Not Special as Herb and Corrie Thompson travel across Montana sharing five very different American stories.
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1 hr 14 min
The Angel of Death: Who Is Allison Black?
Season 2, Episode 46
Show notes
They called her the “Angel of Death.”
Retired U.S. Air Force Colonel Allison Black spent more than 32 years serving her country, but her path to becoming a special operations aviator was anything but planned.
She began her career as an enlisted SERE specialist before becoming an officer and eventually flying AC-130 gunships with Air Force Special Operations Command.
After September 11, 2001, Allison deployed to Central Asia and flew combat missions over Afghanistan. Working alongside U.S. Special Forces and Afghan forces, her voice over the radio and the firepower of the AC-130 helped create a story that would follow her for decades: the “Angel of Death.”
But this conversation is about much more than a nickname.
Allison joins Herb and Corrie Thompson to talk about earning credibility in the special operations community, failure, leadership, command, marriage and raising a family while serving, and the responsibility of bringing people home.
She also talks about why she spent years uncomfortable with the “Angel of Death” story—and what it was like to retire after more than three decades in uniform and figure out who Allison Black was without it.
This is a conversation about service, identity, leadership, family, and learning to let your actions speak for you.
Learn more about Allison Black and booking her to speak at LibertySpeaks.com.
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2 min
The Americana Series: Montana | Official Trailer | Not Special Trailer
Show notes
We came to Montana to share five great stories. We ended up getting a lot more.
The Americana Series: Montana takes Not Special on the road for five conversations with Andy Stumpf, Cameron Cushman, Dave Kenney, Nic McKinley, and Aaron Todd.
These are stories about service, identity, family, adversity, purpose, and what happens when life doesn’t go according to plan.
Five people. Five very different journeys. One place that gave us the space to slow down and hear their stories.
The Americana Series: Montana begins October 1, with a new episode every Thursday on Not Special.
Made possible with support from LoanDepot, GOVX, Alliance Nationwide Exposition, and Bellator Recruiting Academy.
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1 hr 23 min
He Left NFL Coaching to Help Veterans Find Purpose | Harrison Bernstein
Season 2, Episode 45
Show notes
Harrison Bernstein left a path in the NFL to build Soldiers To Sidelines, a nonprofit helping veterans, service members, military spouses, and Gold Star families find purpose and community through coaching.
But Harrison's story didn't start with the military.
Long before founding Soldiers To Sidelines, Harrison was a college football player whose identity was wrapped up in the game. When the clock ran out on his final college football game, he wasn't ready for it to end. Years later, after working in the NFL with the Washington Redskins and receiving another opportunity with the New York Jets, Harrison faced a different decision: keep chasing the NFL or build something that could impact thousands of lives.
He chose the latter.
In this episode of Not Special with Herb & Corrie Thompson, Harrison talks about football, coaching, identity, purpose, mental health, leadership, and why great coaches can change the trajectory of someone's life.
We talk about:
• The emotional final play of Harrison's college football career
• How losing the identity of "football player" affected him
• Getting hired by Joe Gibbs and working in the NFL
• The day Sean Taylor challenged him to a race
• Why Harrison ultimately walked away from an opportunity with the New York Jets
• How Soldiers To Sidelines started with six people at Walter Reed
• Helping veterans and military families become character-based sports coaches
• Depression, isolation, community, and finding purpose
• Why Harrison believes coaching can be an upstream solution
• NIL, college athletics, and tying identity to money and performance
• The role Harrison's wife, Laura, played in building Soldiers To Sidelines
• What makes a great coach on the field and in life
Today, Soldiers To Sidelines has trained thousands of coaches and continues creating pathways into youth, high school, college, and professional sports.
Harrison's story isn't really about football.
It's about what happens when something you've built your identity around ends and how finding a new way to contribute can change everything.
Not Special is a Liberty Speaks show hosted by Herb & Corrie Thompson.
Real people. Real stories. Real growth.
Checkout www.govx.com for great discounts and they give back to the community every month, the September GOVX Give Back supports the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund https://nleomf.org/ and Concerns of Police Survivors https://www.concernsofpolicesurvivors... Both are doing incredible work to honor those we lost and support those left behind.
#SoldiersToSidelines #Veterans #NFL #Coaching
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1 hr 11 min
His Pentagon Office Was Hit on 9/11 | Vic Minella
Season 2, Episode 44
Show notes
Vic Minella was a Navy intelligence officer assigned to the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. His office, the Navy Command Center, was directly hit in the 9/11 terrorist attack. Vic wasn't there that morning. Several of his shipmates were.
That day changed the course of his life and launched decades of work in Navy intelligence, counterterrorism, clandestine and covert operations support, and eventually senior leadership inside the Pentagon.
In this episode of Not Special, Vic Minella takes us from growing up in a tiny Mississippi town to enlisting in the U.S. Navy, becoming a Navy corpsman, earning his commission, and entering Naval Intelligence.
Vic shares what it was like watching the 9/11 attacks unfold from home, learning that his Pentagon office had been hit, losing friends and colleagues, and carrying survivor's guilt in the years that followed.
He also takes us inside the largely unseen world of national security and counterterrorism—work that ultimately contributed to preventing hundreds of terrorist attacks and protecting American service members around the world.
We talk about:
• Growing up in rural Mississippi
• Enlisting in the Navy and becoming a corpsman
• Becoming a Naval Intelligence officer
• Where Vic was on September 11, 2001
• Losing his shipmates in the Pentagon attack
• Survivor's guilt and the aftermath of 9/11
• Returning to work as America prepared for war
• Supporting counterterrorism and special operations missions
• The team credited with helping stop 600+ terrorist attacks
• Rising from enlisted sailor to Senior Executive Service
• The critical role of civilians in national security
• Leadership, family, sacrifice and the cost of high-tempo work
• Finding purpose after decades of government serviceVic's story is also a reminder of how many people serve this country without ever wearing a uniform and how much of America's national security work happens far from public view.
From a town of roughly 300 people in Mississippi to some of the highest levels of the Pentagon, this is a story about service, loss, opportunity, leadership and what happens when an ordinary person is given an extraordinary opportunity.
#September11 #911 #Pentagon #NotSpecial
Checkout www.govx.com for great discounts and they give back to the community every month, the September GOVX Give Back supports the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund https://nleomf.org/ and Concerns of Police Survivors https://www.concernsofpolicesurvivors.org/ Both are doing incredible work to honor those we lost and support those left behind.
Connect with Liberty Speaks:
🌐 Website: www.libertyspeaks.com
🔗 Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/_ownyourjourney_👉 Don’t forget to follow, like, and share if you found this conversation valuable. Your support helps us bring more stories of resilience, leadership, and freedom to light.
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1 hr 10 min
She Reenlisted Because of a Car Payment, Then Made Air Force History | JoAnne Bass
Season 2, Episode 43
Show notes
JoAnne Bass, the 19th Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force and the first woman to serve as the U.S. Air Force’s highest-ranking enlisted leader, never planned on making the military a career. She joined for the GI Bill, expected to serve four years, and jokes that she reenlisted because she still had a Honda Civic to pay for.
Thirty-one years later, she retired after reaching the highest enlisted position in the United States Air Force.
In this episode of Not Special, JoAnne Bass sits down with Herb and Corrie Thompson for a candid conversation about her unlikely journey from a young Airman to Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force, leadership at the highest levels, marriage and family, military service, social media and misinformation, and what happens when the title you've carried for decades suddenly disappears.
Bass shares the story of getting the call that she had been selected as the 19th Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force, becoming the first woman to hold the position, and suddenly finding herself at the center of national attention.
She also opens up about the side of leadership most people never see: criticism, online attacks, the pressure of leading during a rapidly changing information environment, and why leaders can no longer confuse the chain of command with the chain of communication.
But this conversation isn't just about rank or military leadership.
JoAnne talks about growing up as an Army brat, meeting her Army husband Ron at Smoke Bomb Hill, raising two daughters while both parents served demanding military careers, navigating deployments, and learning how to intentionally reconnect after retirement.
She also explains why some people struggle when they leave the military or any major career and their identity has become inseparable from their title.
Throughout the conversation, JoAnne returns to a simple philosophy she learned from her mother: Do your job and do it well.
From a four-year enlistment to 31 years of service, JoAnne Bass's story is ultimately about service, leadership, family, resilience, identity, and using whatever position you have to make a difference.
In this episode:
• Why JoAnne Bass originally joined the U.S. Air Force
• The Honda Civic that helped convince her to reenlist
• When military service became something bigger than a GI Bill
• Becoming the 19th Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force
• What it meant to become the first woman in the position
• Leading through COVID and an evolving information environment
• Social media, misinformation, trolls, and deepfakes
• Why leaders need to rethink communication
• Leading five generations in today's workforce
• Marriage, children, deployments, and dual-military life
• Why retirement and identity can be such a difficult transition
• Finding purpose after taking off the uniform
• The leadership philosophy JoAnne still carries today⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why JoAnne Is Special
01:19 Growing Up an Army Brat
03:36 Why Jo Joined the Air Force
04:58 The Honda Civic That Kept Her in the Military
07:03 She Once Said She’d Become the First Female CMSAF
10:39 GOVX
11:44 Meeting Her Husband at Fort Bragg
14:18 Marriage, Kids & Five Deployments
17:46 Learning to “Get Along on Purpose”
19:20 Becoming Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force
21:42 “You Made the Right Damn Decision”
22:13 The Gut Punch of Online Hate
25:14 Trolls, Misinformation & the Information War
30:48 Deepfakes & the $15,000 JoAnne Bass Scam
33:40 The Pentagon Assignment She Didn’t Want
37:12 “Do Your Job and Do It Well”
41:54 Chain of Command vs. Chain of Communication
46:12 What Retirement Really Felt Like
52:04 When Your Identity Is Tied to Your Title
55:20 Finding a New Way to Serve
56:01 Operation Military Move https://a.co/d/0fbKz29T
59:50 Jo’s Three Rules for Life After Service
1:02:57 The Audience Jo Most Wants to Reach
1:04:25 From “I Never Want to Speak Again” to the National Archives
1:08:40 What Jo Values Most in LifeConnect with Liberty Speaks:
🌐 Website: www.libertyspeaks.com
🔗 Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/_ownyourjourney_Checkout www.govx.com for great discounts and they give back to the community every month, the September GOVX Give Back supports the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund https://nleomf.org/ and Concerns of Police Survivors https://www.concernsofpolicesurvivors.org/ Both are doing incredible work to honor those we lost and support those left behind.
👉 Don’t forget to follow, like, and share if you found this conversation valuable. Your support helps us bring more stories of resilience, leadership, and freedom to light.
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1 hr 2 min
Inside the U.S. Army’s $200 Billion Budget | Marc Andersen Interview
Season 2, Episode 42
Show notes
Marc Andersen, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Financial Management and Comptroller, helps oversee roughly $200 billion in U.S. Army resources with one overriding mission: making sure America’s warfighters have what they need to fight and win.
In this episode of the Not Special Show, Marc takes us inside the Pentagon and the enormous responsibility behind managing the U.S. Army budget, funding military readiness, navigating Congress, supporting defense innovation, and preparing soldiers for both today's threats and the future fight.
But this conversation goes far beyond defense spending.
Marc shares the unlikely path that took him from growing up in small towns and a log cabin in Idaho to senior leadership in business and ultimately one of the most consequential civilian positions in the U.S. Army.
He also opens up about growing up with hearing loss and a speech impediment and the teacher who challenged him to stop hiding what he was capable of. That lesson became part of a larger philosophy Marc has carried throughout his career: get comfortable being uncomfortable, do good work, treat people well, and don't assume your path will be linear.
Marc's career certainly wasn't.
Before joining the Army, he co-founded a software company, became a senior leader at EY, helped build its government business, and worked in venture capital. He once thought he might become U.S. Ambassador to Denmark. Instead, a call from Secretary of the Army Dan Driscoll ultimately led him to the Pentagon.
Marc also talks candidly about leadership, marriage, raising grounded kids, faith, friendship, public service, political division, and why relationships built on trust matter more than transactions.
We get into:
*What managing a roughly $200 billion Army budget actually means
*How Army funding affects the individual soldier
*The Pentagon, Congress, budgets, audits, and defense spending
Military readiness, lethality, technology, and the future fight
*Why Marc believes America's military should always have overwhelming advantage
*His unexpected path from the private sector to public service
*Growing up with hearing loss and a speech impediment
*Why discomfort can be one of life's greatest opportunities for growth
*Building relationships based on trust instead of transactions
*His 35-year marriage and the importance of family and faith
*Raising successful but grounded children
*Why Marc believes Americans agree on far more than our politics suggest
*The responsibility each generation carries to preserve American liberty⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why Marc is Special
04:01 Growing Up in Rural Idaho
10:48 Marriage, Family & 35 Years Together
13:44 Raising Grounded Kids in a Successful Family
23:38 Blessed to Live in America
25:10 Overcoming Hearing Loss & a Speech Impediment
26:12 The Teacher Who Changed Marc’s Life
27:54 GOVX
31:00 From EY & Venture Capital to the Pentagon
34:58 It’s About People, Relationships and Trust
37:30 The Long Road to a Presidential Appointment
39:56 Managing the U.S. Army’s $200 Billion Budget
41:30 How the U.S. Army Decides Where the Money Goes
47:11 Will the U.S. Army Pass Its Audit?
51:01 America’s Adversaries & Peace Through Strength
54:01 Why America’s Political Division Worries Marc
01:01:25 Faith, Family, Friendship & FreedomMarc describes these government roles as temporary projects rather than lifetime appointments. His question is simple: What can we get done with the time we have?
That idea runs through this entire conversation.
Do good work. Treat people well. Serve something bigger than yourself. And don't be surprised when life takes you somewhere you never planned to go.
Connect with Liberty Speaks:
🌐 Website: www.libertyspeaks.com
🔗 Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/_ownyourjourney_Checkout www.govx.com for great discounts and they give back to the community every month, the August GOVX Give Back supports the Travis Manion Foundation.
👉 Don’t forget to follow, like, and share if you found this conversation valuable. Your support helps us bring more stories of resilience, leadership, and freedom to light.
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2 hr 16 min
Gold Star Parents Share the Untold Story of Their Navy SEAL Son | Feeks Interview
Season 2, Episode 41
Show notes
What does it mean to become a Gold Star Family? How do you move forward after losing a Navy SEAL son in combat?
In this powerful episode of The Not Special Show, former Navy pilot Tom Feeks and registered nurse Ginny Feeks share the story of their son, Navy SEAL Patrick "Pat" Feeks, their daughter Regina Feeks, a Navy officer and physician assistant, and the journey of faith, family, military service, and resilience after unimaginable loss.
This conversation explores life in a military family, deployments, raising children while serving, the realities of combat, and what it means to honor a fallen warrior while continuing to live with purpose. If you're interested in Navy SEAL stories, Gold Star families, military life, veteran stories, Special Operations, leadership, and overcoming grief, this is a conversation you won't forget.
Tom and Ginny don't consider themselves special. After listening, you will.
In this episode:
* The life and legacy of Navy SEAL Patrick Feeks
* Becoming Gold Star parents
* Tom's 28-year career as a U.S. Navy pilot
* Ginny's career as a registered nurse and military spouse
* Raising children through military moves and deployments
* What families experience while loved ones are deployed
* The phone call that changed everything
* Faith, resilience, and finding purpose after loss
* Lessons every parent can learn from
* Why service continues long after the uniform comes off⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:24 Why Tom & Ginny Feeks Are Special
02:38 Tom's Journey to Becoming a Navy Pilot
05:59 Ginny's Nursing Career & Military Life
10:46 Navigating a Career as a Military Spouse
14:08 GOVX
15:45 Courtship Before the Internet at the Naval Academy
25:28 Going Home to a Controlling Dad
29:24 Raising Kids and Balancing Careers Around the World
33:54 Signs of a Navy SEAL as a Child
39:51 GI Joe in Real Life
42:48 Two Kids Deployed
47:16 Having a Daughter Deployed to Combat
49:26 OPSEC
52:12 Funny Navy Story Drinking at a Brothel
53:50 The Phone Call No Parent Wants, Outside of Protocol
1:00:57 Becoming Gold Star Parents
1:07:12 Humor in the Worst Moments of Grief
1:11:40 Overloaded With Admin Tasks
1:16:17 A Moment of Clarity in the Loss
1:18:15 Leadership is Showing You Care
1:20:39 What Helped Them Get Through the Tragedy
1:25:50 Navy SEAL Saves Green Beret’s Life
1:30:46 When She Knew It Would Be OK
1:35:26 Questioning Himself Teaching Military Officers
1:38:59 Lessons on Grief, Family & Purpose
1:53:07 Honoring the Pat Feeks Legacy
2:08:04 Impact of Kids Reading Young
2:11:42 Top Secret Story
2:15:15 What they value most in lifeLinks mentioned in this episode:
Fundraiser: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/great-frogs-wine-tasting-to-benefit-the-navy-seal-foundation-tickets-1990181159422
Fields of Athenry: https://fieldsofathenryfarm.comConnect with Liberty Speaks:
🌐 Website: www.libertyspeaks.com
🔗 Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/_ownyourjourney_Checkout www.govx.com for great discounts and they give back to the community every month, the August GOVX Give Back supports the Travis Manion Foundation.
👉 Don’t forget to follow, like, and share if you found this conversation valuable. Your support helps us bring more stories of resilience, leadership, and freedom to light.
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1 hr 26 min
Kicked Out of College. Became a Green Beret. | Prescott Engle
Season 2, Episode 40
Show notes
How does a Green Beret become a private equity executive, business leader, and president of a multimillion-dollar company?
In this episode of The Not Special Show, former Green Beret Prescott Engle shares the incredible journey from getting kicked out of college to earning the Green Beret, serving during the Cold War in Central America, walking away from the CIA, building a successful career in insurance, private equity, and business leadership, and ultimately leading Alliance Nationwide Exposition.
Prescott opens up about the lessons that shaped him: resilience, leadership under pressure, overcoming failure, raising eight children, making difficult career transitions, and why success starts with serving others. Whether you're a veteran, entrepreneur, business leader, or someone navigating life's next chapter, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom and unforgettable stories.
In this episode, we discuss:
* Getting kicked out of college—and the conversation that changed his life
* Earning the Green Beret and surviving Special Forces training
* The instructor who tried to make him quit
* Cold War missions in Central America
* Why he turned down a career with the CIA
* Building a successful career in insurance and private equity
* Leadership lessons from the military that apply to business
* The importance of mentorship and earning confidence
* Raising eight children and building a lasting marriage
* Why education and intelligence are not the same thing⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why Prescott is Special
01:43 Growing Up Wild & Burning Down a Cornfield
05:03 Getting Kicked Out of College
07:53 What He Told Himself on the Way to Boot Camp
10:08 The Green Beret Recruiting Pitch
12:42 Special Forces Selection Begins
18:22 "I'm Going to Make You Quit"
26:46 Earning the Green Beret
28:02 GOVX
28:36 Life in 7th Special Forces Group
31:03 Cold War Missions in Central America
35:17 Leadership Lessons from Special Forces
36:57 Education is Not a Relative Indicator of Intelligence
40:22 Why He Turned Down the CIA
42:55 Starting Over in Insurance
46:25 The Sales Lesson That Changed Everything
48:20 Meeting His Wife & Building a Family
51:03 Liberty Speaks
52:06 From Business Consultant to Company President
57:55 A Lesson From Desert Storm
01:01:40 Surprises in the Industry
01:05:47 Changes in the Events Industry
01:07:27 Business Need to Read the Room
01:09:16 Balancing Business and Family
01:10:29 “I Was a Shit Father”
01:15:09 Finding Your Tribe
01:17:39 Getting From and Giving to the Army
01:19:17 What he Would Tell his Younger Self
01:25:24 What He Values Most in LifePrescott's story is a reminder that your biggest setback doesn't have to define you. The discipline, humility, and perseverance that carried him through Special Forces became the same principles that helped him succeed in business and life.
Connect with Liberty Speaks:
🌐 Website: www.libertyspeaks.com
🔗 Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/_ownyourjourney_Checkout www.govx.com for great discounts and they give back to the community every month, the July GOVX Give Back supports Mission 22.
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1 hr 5 min
He Was an Elite Army Pilot. Then Everything Changed | Josh Martin
Season 2, Episode 39
Show notes
Josh Martin seemed to be living the dream.
A West Point graduate, 160th SOAR (Night Stalkers) helicopter pilot, and one of the Army's elite aviators, Josh had accomplished nearly every goal he'd set for himself. Then a devastating motorcycle accident changed everything.
After spending months in the hospital, enduring numerous surgeries, ultimately losing his leg, and fighting to return to the cockpit, Josh was forced to redefine success, purpose, and identity. His journey eventually led him through Vanderbilt's MBA program, a career at McKinsey & Company, and ultimately to discovering that family, resilience, and purpose can take forms we never expect.
In this episode, Josh shares what it takes to overcome adversity, adapt when life doesn't go according to plan, and keep moving forward when every path you imagined disappears.
Whether you're a veteran, leader, entrepreneur, parent, or simply navigating a difficult season, Josh's story is a powerful reminder that your greatest setback doesn't have to define your future.
In this episode:
* Why Josh chose West Point after 9/11
* Becoming a pilot in the elite 160th SOAR (Night Stalkers)
* What it really takes to earn a place in Special Operations Aviation
* The motorcycle accident that changed his life
* Losing his leg and fighting to return to flying
* The emotional challenge of losing his identity as a military aviator
* Earning an MBA from Vanderbilt
* Working at McKinsey & Company
* Why he stepped away from corporate life
* Fatherhood, purpose, resilience, and finding a new mission
* Tactical patience and making better decisions during adversity⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why is Josh Special?
02:55 Why Josh Chose West Point
08:05 The Road to the 160th SOAR Night Stalkers
18:15 Becoming a Night Stalker
25:45 The Difference Between Army Aviation and the 160th
34:50 The Motorcycle Accident
39:55 Fighting to Fly Again
48:20 Losing His Identity
55:15 Vanderbilt MBA and Reinventing Himself
1:03:00 Life at McKinsey & Company
1:10:15 Fatherhood Changed Everything
1:15:10 Lessons in Resilience and Tactical Patience
1:18:30 Final ThoughtsConnect with Liberty Speaks:
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1 hr 25 min
The Hardest Part Wasn't Becoming a Navy SEAL | Dan Luna
Season 2, Episode 37
Show notes
Former Navy SEAL operator, leadership coach, and Doctor of Education Dan Luna joins The Not Special Show for a conversation about resilience, leadership, purpose, and the realities of life after elite military service.
Yes, Dan served with the Navy SEALs and SEAL Team 6.
But this episode isn't about tactics or war stories. It's about what happens after the mission.
Dan shares lessons from combat, leadership under pressure, overcoming fear, transitioning from military service, processing loss, finding purpose, and helping others navigate adversity. We discuss why resilience is often misunderstood, the difference between performance and positivity, how identity shapes our lives, and what it means to continue serving long after the uniform comes off.
From growing up with a single mother in Southern California to serving at the highest levels of special operations and later earning a doctorate focused on resilience and human performance, Dan's journey offers insights that apply far beyond the military.
In this episode:
• Lessons from Navy SEAL and SEAL Team 6 service
• Leadership under pressure
• Building resilience in difficult environments
• Fear, performance, and personal growth
• Military transition and identity
• Purpose after service
• Faith, loss, and navigating adversity
• Supporting veterans beyond "thank you for your service"
• Human performance and trauma education
• What great leaders do differently⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why Dan Is Special
01:43 Growing Up With a Single Mom
03:01 Dan’s Secret Love For Volleyball
05:53 Being a Momma’s Boy
08:31 Joining the Navy and Becoming a Man
12:39 Navy SEAL Says Green Berts Are Cool
14:31 What BUD/S Really Teaches
19:26 Fear, Pain, and Performance Under Pressure
29:48 Naval Academy Assignment Changed His Life
34:22 The Ebb and Flow of His Faith
38:52 Educating The Mental Aspect of War
41:49 The Myth of Positive Psychology
47:49 Becoming a SEAL or Leaving the SEAL Teams Harder
51:27 The Hardest Part Wasn't Becoming a Navy SEAL
54:57 What Does Resilience Mean
1:01:01 A Civilian Mentor Meant the World to Dan
1:04:46 Building a Business In His Late 40s
1:06:31 Dan’s Recent Work in Africa
1:10:27 A Powerful Moment With a Pride of Lions
1:13:02 Charged By an Elephant
1:19:48 Has Dan Found What He Was Seeking as a Kid
1:21:48 What Dan Values Most in LifeWhether you're a veteran, business leader, entrepreneur, parent, coach, or someone facing a difficult season of life, this conversation will challenge the way you think about resilience, leadership, and purpose.
#Leadership #Resilience #PersonalGrowth #NavySEAL #NotSpecial
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1 hr 20 min
The Teacher Who Changed My Life | Rob Hughes
Season 2, Episode 38
Show notes
The best teachers don't just teach subjects, they change lives.
In this episode of The Not Special Show, we sit down with Rob Hughes, Herb’s high school science teacher, coach, timber framer, outdoorsman, and one of the people who had the biggest impact on who Herb became. Long before Herb became a Green Beret, Rob saw potential in him that he didn't yet see in himself.
We talk about great teachers, leadership, curiosity, raising confident young people, education, parenting, technology, AI in the classroom, timber framing, resilience, and why the lessons that matter most are rarely found in a textbook.
If you've ever had a teacher, coach, or mentor who changed your life, this conversation is for you.
In this episode we discuss:
* Why great teachers connect while others don't
* Building confidence in young people
* Leadership lessons outside the classroom
* Curiosity, purpose, and lifelong learning
* The impact of technology and AI on education
* Timber framing and creating things that outlive you
* Mentorship, parenting, and leaving a legacy
* Why the best lessons are often never part of the curriculum
* Making Maple Syrup on land and from trees that Rob’s Grandpa harvestedRob Hughes spent more than 36 years teaching science, coaching students, building timber frames, mentoring thousands of young people, and quietly changing lives, including Herb’s.
⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why Rob is Special
01:24 How he Became a Teacher and Not a Park Ranger
04:10 You Should Stop Acting Dumb
05:49 The Secret to Making Students Love Learning
09:59 Why Great Teachers Change Lives
11:18 Has AI and Cellphones Made School Worse?
14:36 Why Kids Need More Boredom
16:21 The Confidence That Comes From Building Something
19:34 Why Some Teachers Never Connect
21:56 The Students You Never Forget
23:20 Herb is Thomas Jefferson to Rob
24:17 The Letter That Changed Everything
27:31 GOVX Saves You Money
28:02 Lessons That Aren't in Any Textbook
29:12 The "Amnesia Portfolio" (Everyone Needs This)
31:16 The Best Advice for Young People
32:09 Becoming a Better Parent Made Me a Better Teacher
33:34 How Timber Framing Changed His Life
44:56 Building Things That Will Outlive You
50:51 The Adirondacks and Leadership
55:31 Greatest Moments in His Career
57:55 A Leadership Trek in the Mountains Led to a Winning Swim Team
01:01:16 A Maple Syrup Legacy
01:10:02 A Passion Versus a Business, Passion Wins
01:11:15 Leadership Lessons from 30+ Years of Coaching
01:16:37 www.bigbeamstimberframes.com
01:18:47 What Rob Values Most in LifeIf you enjoy conversations about leadership, education, resilience, military transition, personal growth, and the people who shape us, subscribe for a new episode every Thursday.
Learn more about Rob’s timber frame work at www.bigbeamstimberframes.com
#Teacher #Education #Leadership #Mentorship #PersonalGrowth
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58 min
The Hardest Part of Being a Green Beret Was Coming Home | Magnus Johnson
Season 2, Episode 35
Show notes
Green Beret Magnus Johnson shares his experiences in Ramadi, Army Special Forces, Mission 22, veteran mental health, military transition, purpose after service, resilience, leadership, and life after combat.
Magnus joins Herb and Corrie Thompson to share his journey from the battlefields of Iraq to helping thousands of veterans find purpose after military service. He opens up about serving in Ramadi during the Iraq War, earning the Green Beret, navigating the difficult transition home, and the lessons he learned while building Mission 22 into one of the most recognized veteran organizations in America.
We discuss veteran mental health, resilience, leadership, purpose, faith, physical wellness, POTS syndrome, healing through art, and why many veterans struggle after leaving the military. This is an honest conversation about what it takes to rebuild your life after service and create a mission bigger than yourself.
Whether you're a veteran, first responder, military family member, or simply someone looking for greater purpose and resilience, this episode offers hard-earned wisdom and practical lessons that apply far beyond the military.
⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why Magnus Is Special
01:34 Watching 9/11 Changed Everything
03:07 Ramadi 2006: Entering the Fight
04:03 Why He Chose the Green Beret Path
05:12 What Life on an ODA Team Was Really Like
07:30 Leaving Special Forces After Three Deployments
08:33 The Hard Reality of Coming Home
11:10 How Art Became a Lifeline
16:22 Building a Monument That Started Mission 22
21:27 What Most People Get Wrong About Veteran Mental Health
29:10 How Civilians Can Better Support Veterans
31:24 How to Help Mission 22
33:41 POTS
43:19 Learning From History
49:19 What we Eat Affects us
52:16 Writing “The Men We Make”
57:17 What Magnus Values Most in Life#GreenBeret #Mission22 #VeteranMentalHealth #SpecialForces #notspecial
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1 hr 9 min
Kicked Out of Delta Force And It Saved His Life | Gary Harrington
Season 2, Episode 36
Show notes
After reaching the pinnacle of military service, former Delta Force operator Gary Harrington was unexpectedly removed from the unit he had worked his entire career to join.
What followed was a battle with identity, purpose, failure, faith, and finding meaning beyond military service.
In this episode of The Not Special Show, Gary shares his journey from Marine Corps officer to Green Beret, Special Forces operator, Delta Force member, and later CIA officer during the early years of the War on Terror. He discusses Afghanistan after 9/11, counterterrorism operations, leadership, resilience, life in elite military units, and the personal cost of operating at the highest levels of national security.
But this conversation goes far beyond combat stories.
Gary opens up about losing the identity he had built around being a Delta Force operator, the struggles many veterans face after military service, and how one of the most painful setbacks of his life ultimately became one of his greatest blessings.
If you're interested in Delta Force, Special Forces, the CIA, Afghanistan, military leadership, veteran transition, personal growth, faith, purpose, and overcoming adversity, this episode offers a rare and honest perspective from someone who lived it.
Sometimes the thing we believe will destroy us becomes the thing that transforms us.
⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Why Gary Is Special
01:51 - Marine Corps Office to Enlisted Green Beret
06:10 - Being a Green Beret
07:46 - Did He Like Special Forces or Delta Better
10:41 - Kicked Out of Delta Affected Him
12:47 - Difference Between Delta Force and Green Berets
17:39 - What Happened After He Got Kicked Out of Delta Force
19:59 - A Panic Attack Going to 5th Special Forces Group
26:23 - Going to Yemen Before the USS Cole Attack
31:01 - September 11th 2001
36:01 - Tora Bora and the Early Afghanistan War Days
41:09 - First Day at Special Forces, Delta Force or the CIA Stick Out
42:25 - Thank God I Was Kicked Out of Delta Force
45:00 - The Toll of a Legendary Career
49:46 - Advice Learned From Being in Rooms With the Best and Worst of Humanity
54:37 - The One Thing That Made Him Successful
56:12 - Giving Himself up to God
57:38 - Meeting the Love of His Life
01:01:51 - Being a Honest Rule Breaker
01:02:53 - How His Faith Evolved
01:07:11 - Giving Advice to Young Gary
01:08:12 - What Gary Values Most in Life#NotSpecial #DeltaForce #GreenBeret #CIA #VeteranStories
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1 hr 20 min
Green Beret & Cop Share the Reality of PTSD | Chris & Marsha Lessard
Season 2, Episode 34
Show notes
What happens when a former Green Beret and a former police officer stop surviving and start healing?
In this powerful episode we sit down with Chris and Marcia Lessard to discuss Special Forces, law enforcement trauma, PTSD, traumatic brain injury (TBI), addiction, marriage, autism recovery, hyper-vigilance, mental health, veteran healing, and the groundbreaking brain treatments changing lives for veterans, first responders, and families across America.
Chris Lessard, a former Green Beret, opens up about combat trauma, alcohol abuse, prescription medication dependency, identity loss after military retirement, and the life-changing treatments that helped him reclaim his life. Marcia Lessard shares her journey as a police officer, young mother, trauma survivor, and advocate for mental health and neurological healing. Together, they reveal how brain mapping, MERT therapy, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, neurofeedback, functional medicine, and trauma-informed care transformed not only their marriage—but their son’s severe nonverbal autism diagnosis.
This episode dives deep into Special Forces culture, law enforcement stress, childhood trauma, veteran mental health, first responder burnout, emotional compartmentalization, healing relationships, addiction recovery, brain inflammation, sleep issues, toxic exposure, and finding purpose after service.
If you’re a veteran, first responder, military spouse, or someone struggling with PTSD, anxiety, depression, TBI symptoms, addiction, trauma, or autism in your family—this conversation could change your perspective forever.
Topics include:
• Green Beret life and military transition
• PTSD and traumatic brain injury recovery
• Veteran addiction and alcohol abuse
• Law enforcement trauma and hyper-vigilance
• Autism recovery and brain treatment therapies
• MERT therapy and neurofeedback
• Hyperbaric oxygen therapy for veterans
• Functional medicine and mental health
• Marriage, trauma bonding, and healing
• Childhood trauma and emotional compartmentalization
• Mental health in Special Operations and policing
• Veteran suicide prevention and recovery
• Brain health optimization and performance⏱️ CLICKABLE CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Why Chris & Marsha Are Special
02:21 – Marsha’s Story: Becoming a Cop at 21 as a Single Mom
04:48 – Chris Lessard: From High School Dropout to Green Beret
07:00 – How a Green Beret & Police Officer Met on Match.com
09:34 – Ride-Alongs, PTSD & The Difference Between War and Policing
12:33 – Trauma, Marriage & Learning to Be Vulnerable
14:46 – Childhood Trauma, PTSD & Emotional Compartmentalization
16:37 – Dopamine, COMT Mutation & Why High Performers Keep Chasing
21:24 – How Their Son’s Autism Diagnosis Changed Everything
25:44 – The Autism Treatment That Changed Their Son’s Life
28:28 – Green Berets Opening Up About Trauma Around the Campfire
29:22 – Alcohol, Painkillers & the “Dark Years” After Service
32:02 – VA Programs, Medications & Finally Finding Real Healing
34:48 – Sleeping Normally Again After Years of PTSD & Hypervigilance
36:51 – SGB From Dr. James Lynch
37:32 – Marriage, Masculinity & Learning How to Fight Fair
43:08 – From Johns Hopkins to Opening Brain Treatment Clinics
48:53 – Why Veterans Get Help Easier Than Police Officers
50:28 – The Difference Between Combat Trauma & Police Trauma
54:56 – Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, Neurofeedback & Functional Medicine
57:47 – Toxic Exposure, Burn Pits, Lyme Disease & Brain Health
01:03:18 – The Most Rewarding Part of Helping Veterans Heal
01:10:53 – The Biggest Surprise Dealing With Clients
01:15:49 – What They Value Most in Life
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1 hr 13 min
Former PsyOps Operator Explains Modern Warfare, Cancer & Veteran Health | Stuart and Jamie Gallagher
Season 2, Episode 33
Show notes
Former Special Operations PsyOps expert Stuart Gallagher and women’s health clinician Jamie Gallagher join the Not Special Podcast with Green Beret Herb Thompson and Corrie Thompson for one of the most powerful conversations yet. From Russia, Ukraine, psychological operations, Special Forces selection, cancer survival, veteran health, testosterone, prostate cancer awareness, hormone therapy, PTSD, military medicine, and life after service — this episode is packed with raw truth, hard-earned wisdom, and real conversations every veteran and family needs to hear.
Stuart opens up about joining the military at 27 after working overseas in Russia, navigating Special Operations culture, serving in PsyOps, advising across government agencies, and watching modern warfare evolve through AI, drones, information operations, and the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Jamie shares critical insights into hormone health, perimenopause, veteran healthcare gaps, prostate cancer screening, diabetes, longevity, and why early detection saves lives. Together, they reveal what military families, veterans, and everyday Americans are missing when it comes to resilience, performance, and health.
This episode dives deep into:
• Special Operations selection & mental toughness
• Psychological operations (PsyOps) explained
• Russia vs Ukraine analysis from a former insider
• Drone warfare, AI, and the future battlefield
• Surviving cancer while serving in Special Forces
• Veteran healthcare failures & lessons learned
• Prostate cancer awareness for men & veterans
• Hormone therapy, menopause & performance health
• Marriage, entrepreneurship & building a business together
• Life after the military and finding purpose againCHAPTER MARKERS
00:00 Why Stuart Is Special
00:45 Working in Russia Before Joining the Military
02:00 Why He Joined Special Operations at 27
03:20 Running a Business With His Wife
04:20 Russia vs Ukraine Explained by Former PsyOps Operator
06:40 The Future of Warfare, AI & Drone Technology
09:25 Why the Ukraine War Matters to Americans
11:15 What Psychological Operations (PsyOps) Really Are
13:00 How PsyOps Works in Modern Warfare
15:10 Deception Operations & Military Strategy
17:10 Social Media, Technology & Information Warfare
18:15 Surviving Cancer During Special Forces Selection
20:00 Diagnosed With Cancer After SF Selection
21:10 The Mindset Required to Survive Special Operations
22:15 Special Forces Selection & Mental Toughness
23:45 Why Most Companies Fail at Hiring Talent
25:10 Hiding Cancer While Attending Military Schools
27:30 Admiral McRaven Story & Military Resilience
30:20 Jamie Gallagher on Veteran Health & Early Detection
31:00 How Jamie Helped Save Stuart’s Life
33:00 Why Prostate Cancer Screening Matters for Veterans
36:10 The Importance of Men’s Health Awareness
37:50 Why Veterans Avoid Going to the Doctor
39:40 Type 2 Diabetes in Veterans Explained
41:00 Problems With Military Healthcare & Prevention
45:50 Recovering From Prostate Cancer Surgery
49:40 Building Their Health & Wellness Business Together
50:40 Hormones, Anxiety & Perimenopause Explained
53:00 What Women Need to Know About Hormone Health
56:00 The Truth About Hormone Replacement Therapy
59:20 Menopause, Longevity & Modern Healthcare
1:02:00 Working Together as Husband & Wife
1:04:40 What Men Should NEVER Say to Their Wife
1:05:40 Strategic Communication in Marriage & Relationships
If you enjoy authentic veteran stories, Green Beret interviews, Special Operations insights, military leadership, resilience, health optimization, and unfiltered conversations — this episode is for you.
#PsyOps #SpecialForces #Veterans #MilitaryPodcast #CancerSurvivor
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