Podcast
On The Record: The Elite Running Podcast
On The Record is an elite running podcast hosted by Oregon natives Rob Vermillion, Pete Julian, and Tim Riley. With backgrounds spanning professional running, Olympic-level coaching, neuroscience, and track & field broadcasting, the trio brings expert insight and real conversation to the biggest topics in distance running and track & field.
- Running chart
- #194
- Episodes
- 24
- Releases
- Weekly
- Typical length
- 1 hr 11 min
- On air since
- 2026
- Latest episode
- 5 days ago
Episodes
24 episodes, newest first
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1 hr 8 min
Episode 24: Special guest Abdi Abdirahman, the New York City Marathon, Peres Jepchirchir's EPO ban, and a tribute to Gags
Episode 24
Show notes
Nine time New York City Marathon competitor with six top-ten finishes, five time Olympian over a 20 year span, and legendary Arizona Wildcat...the Black Cactus...Abdi Abdirahman joins us to chat all things NYC Marathon.
We also touch on the recent Peres Jepchirchir doping ban and fall from grace and what we can do about it.
And we recently lost a legend, Rob's post collegiate coach Frank Gagliano. Rest In Peace Gags
Abdi's Book: https://soulsticepublishing.com/product/abdi-book/
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1 hr 12 min
Episode 23: Special guest Jessica Hull, that's it...enjoy!
Episode 23
Show notes
Jess Hull joins us for an in depth chat on her 2026 season, her development as a pro, the current state of Australian Athletics, breaking barriers, why Corgis are the best, and who take the crown for the World Athletics Moment of the Year?
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1 hr 5 min
Episode 22: Chicago Marathon Breakdown, Shoe wars, and Current NCAA D1 XC Coaches Poll
Episode 22
Show notes
With boots on the ground in Chicago, Pete breaks down the elite races. Are Americans falling behind the rest of the world? Who came out on top of the "Shoe Wars"? We also discuss the first legit NCAA D1 Coaches Poll and what teams to look out for come November.
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1 hr 14 min
Episode 21: Special guest Jordan Hogan from Hogan Performance, Chicago Marathon Preview
Episode 21
Show notes
Jordan Hogan (formerly Jordan Hasay) joins us this week to chat all things Chicago Marathon. Finishing 3rd at Chicago in 2017 (2:20.57), Jordan gives her insight as an athlete and now as a coach, and what it's like to debut at a major marathon. How did she train leading up to it and what she would have done differently? We chat about the American favorites and will we see an AR go down...We also digress and Rob and Pete make a plan to break 2:00 in the 800m.
Hogan Performance: https://www.runhogan.com/
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1 hr 4 min
Episode 20: Special guests Garrett and Ben from The Stride Report, D1 XC Season Outlook, PCSA update, and the Berlin Marathon
Episode 20
Show notes
The Stride Report Founder Garrett Zatlin and TSR podcast co-host Ben Weisel join us to chat about the D1 Cross Country season and what teams and individuals pass the eye test so far. We also look at Berlin Marathon results, give an update on the Protect College Sports Act, and see if Tim can make it through this episode in one piece!
The Stride Report: https://www.thestridereport.com/
The Stride Report Pod: https://www.thestridereport.com/the-stride-report-podcast
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1 hr 25 min
Episode 19: Special guest Shannon Solares-Rowbury, Athlos and World Road Champs Recaps
Episode 19
Show notes
Holy smokes folks, this is a good one! Shannon Solares-Rowbury is on the pod this week and gives her take on her book "Strong as a Mother", her upgraded medal status, and Athlos. We then look at the Word Road Running Championships and discuss if the road mile makes sense.
Strong as a Mother Link: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/787444/strong-as-a-mother-by-shannon-rowbury-and-jessica-dorrington-mpt-ocs-prpc/
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1 hr 17 min
Episode 18: World Athletics Ultimate Recap, World Road Running Champs, Athlos LDN, and Future WC Sites
Episode 18
Show notes
We have a spicy one for you this week...
We go over the "good and the bad" of the Ultimate Championships, and Pete's "events of the meet" might surprise you. We then look ahead to the World Road Running Champs in Copenhagen and touch on the Athlos meet in London. And finally, dissect the decision to award Nairobi and Munich the future sites of the World Athletics Championships.
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1 hr 10 min
Episode 17: The Ultimate "Ultimate Championships" Preview
Episode 17
Show notes
Don't worry, it's not all about the Ultimate Championship...we look back at the Diamond League Season, what super powers you might need to get to the end of a championship season, and the Diamond League vs Ultimate Championships what the heck is the difference and how they fit in an "off-year."
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1 hr 27 min
Episode 16: Diamond League Final Preview, UTMB Business and Highlights
Episode 16
Show notes
With the Diamond League Final this week, we break down the fields. In doing so, Pete discovers a potential controversy...
We also chat about Rob's experience at UTMB, and the financial side and impact businesses have on the sport, environment, and the community of Chamonix, France.
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1 hr 13 min
Episode 15: Special guest Dr. Brittany Navarre, Silesia DL Recap, Zurich DL and UTMB Preview
Episode 15
Show notes
Pediatric Cardiologist and Electrophysiologist Dr. Brittany Navarre joins us to talk about ARVC and what symptoms to look out for in endurance athletes. We look back at the highlights from Silesia Diamond League and look ahead at the marquee matchups in Zurich. Also, it's UTMB week and Rob has boots on the ground in Chamonix!
AED Grant Link: https://www.aedgrant.com/
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1 hr 12 min
Episode 14: Special guest Paul Booth, Lausanne and Silesia Diamond League Previews
Episode 14
Show notes
Double UTMB 2025 Winning Nutritionist and Performance Scientist Paul Booth joins us and we learn the importance and timing of carbs, caffeine, and electrolytes for everything from the 800m to the ultra-marathon. And he may or may not know the best craft breweries in Chamonix. We look at Lausanne and Silesia as the Diamond League season ramps up.
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1 hr 26 min
Episode 13: Special guest Dr. Ben Levine, U20 World Champs Recap, Koech Doping News, European Champs Preview
Episode 13
Show notes
Since 1997 Dr. Ben Levine's landmark study "Living high-training low": effect of moderate-altitude acclimatization with low-altitude training on performance has been a key training model for endurance athletes. His take on if the study holds up and where the research is currently. It's a can't miss!
Paper Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9216951/
We also get Rob's take of U20's from the booth in Eugene, Koech's doping ban, and what to look for at European Champs.
Oh...and the launch of our YouTube Channel! @OnTheRecordRunningPod
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1 hr
Episode 12: Special guest host Danny Mackey, Head Coach of the Brooks Beasts
Episode 12
Show notes
We take an in depth dive into Danny's early days of coaching to what it took to get Josh Kerr's World Record in the Mile. We also discuss the business side of being a pro coach and how it fits into the current state of the sport.
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Red Cross Volunteer: https://www.redcross.org/volunteer/become-a-volunteer.html
Spokane Fire Dept Foundation: https://sfdfoundation.org/
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1 hr 4 min
Episode 11: Special guest host Emily Mackay, USATF Champs Recap, and the Commonwealth Games
Episode 11
Show notes
Fresh off her National Title in the 5k and dramatic 1500m Bronze at USA's, Emily Mackay breaks down her experience and what comes next. We discuss the Commonwealth Games and ask: Are the games as relevant as they were 96 years ago?
Be on the listen for a "hidden" track...
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51 min
Episode 10: NCAA eliminating altitude conversions, LTL and a philosophical take on Josh Kerr's Mile WR, and USA Championships Preview
Episode 10
Show notes
A fired up analysis of the NCAA D1 oversight committee voting to eliminate altitude and track size conversions. We reflect on Josh Kerr breaking Mile WR and what it means to LTL. And a breakdown on the races to watch as the USA Track and Field National Championships head to the Big Apple.
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1 hr 6 min
Episode 9: Special guest Dr. Sheryl Magzamen, London DL and Josh Kerr's Mile WR attempt
Episode 9
Show notes
Guest Dr. Sheryl Magzamen, a professor and Epidemiologist at Colorado State University educates us on AQI and its effect on elite runners. We look ahead to a loaded London Diamond League meet and break down Josh Kerr's world record attempt in the men's mile. Will anyone join him?
Journal Links:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-28802-x
https://beva.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/evj.70186 -
1 hr 3 min
Episode 8: Pre Classic views from the booth and track, Monaco and Sunset Tour Previews, and the IOC drops bans on Russia and Belarus
Episode 8
Show notes
Pete and Rob give their in person reviews of this year's Pre Classic and Rob's favorite race might surprise you...
The Diamond League heads to Monaco and the Sunset Tour in LA highlight this weeks racing on the track. And the IOC announces dropping the ban on athletes from Russian and Belarus, will World Athletics follow suit?
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1 hr 44 min
Episode 7: Special Guest Emily Cole, Paris Diamond League and Western States recaps, Pre-Classic Preview
Episode 7
Show notes
Guest Emily Cole breaks down NIL and the Protect College Sports Act from a collegiate athlete and co-founder of NIL TV perspective. We also recap at the Paris Diamond League and Pete becomes an uber fan of trail racing and in particular Western States. And finally look ahead to the much anticipated Prefontaine Classic this week!
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59 min
Episode 6: Special guest Jason Drake and Track and Field funding disparities, British Champs, Kenyan Champs, and the World Athletics Hengelo Meet
Episode 6
Show notes
We have our very first guest this week! Fresno State University Director of Track and Field Jason "JD" Drake breaks down NCAA scholarships and the funding picture and where we might go from here. Some solid middle distance racing across the globe with British and Kenyan Champs in the books. And we look to the Netherlands where a certain 400m hurdler is making waves in the 800m.
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1 hr 15 min
Episode 5: USATF Grand Prix, NCAA Finale and Ostrava recaps, heat acclimation and plasma volume
Episode 5
Show notes
What an incredible week of racing! On the Pro side we have Pete's first hand recap of the USATF Grand Prix in LA, and we look a the races in Ostrava including the 150m World Best going down...or did it? The NCAA outdoor season is in the books and we look at how "heat training" helps with performance, and its effects on plasma volume.
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