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What if the emotions you're avoiding are actually showing you what needs to change? 🔥✨

In this episode, Lisa and Desi explore the energy of the Taurus Full Moon, Scorpio season, and Mercury retrograde before diving into sacred rage, spiritual bypassing, and emotional healing. We're talking about releasing what no longer serves you, learning to work with your emotions instead of against them, and building self-trust through daily practices.

In this episode:

• Grounding rituals, reflection, and releasing old patterns
• Sacred rage and healthy ways to express anger
• How childhood experiences shape our relationship with emotions
• Spiritual bypassing and why avoiding feelings isn't healing
• Kundalini, consistency, and building trust in yourself
• Understanding your energy, menstrual cycle, and emotional needs

✨ Plus, Lisa shares her FREE 21-day Kundalini challenge to help release fear and create a consistent daily practice. Join here!!

Because healing isn't about avoiding uncomfortable emotions. It's about learning to feel them, understand them, and move forward without carrying everything with you.

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If 2026 didn’t go the way you planned — you’re not alone.

Lisa and Desi are back together for this one, and they’re getting real about what this year has actually been: a collective year of initiation. A threshold moment. A year where everything came to the surface so it could finally be healed.

With less than 60 days left in the year, they’re inviting you to stop waiting for January 1st and start asking right now — what do you actually want? And how do you want to finish this year?

In this episode:

• Why 2026 has felt harder than expected for so many people
• What the seasons are actually asking of us right now — energetically and astrologically
• Scorpio season, the Full Moon in Taurus, and Venus retrograde — what themes to expect
• Lisa’s weekend trip to Canada that she almost talked herself out of — and the channeled session that changed everything
• Desi’s first viral reel — and the hard truth behind it about what happens when we don’t heal
• Desi’s health update: discovering low iron and ferritin, and what it’s teaching her about being her own advocate
• Why the ego gets loudest right before a breakthrough
• The books they swear by: Heal Your Body by Louise Hay and The Body Keeps the Score
• Desi’s Level 3 Akashic Records certification and what’s coming next
• Lisa’s upcoming Full Moon Activation and free 21-day kundalini challenge

This one is a permission slip to give yourself grace, celebrate how far you’ve come, and choose what’s next — before the new year.

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Are Your Fears Really Yours? Predictive Programming, Media Influence & Breaking Free From Conditioning

What if the fears, beliefs, and patterns you've been carrying aren't actually yours? 👀

In this solo episode, Desi gets a little spicy as she explores predictive programming, media influence, societal conditioning, and how fear shapes the way we think, feel, and experience the world. From childhood programming to negativity bias and survival mode, we're questioning the narratives we've been taught to believe and exploring what it means to take back our personal power.

In this episode:

• What predictive programming is and how it may influence our perceptions
• How media, fear-based messaging, and societal conditioning shape our beliefs
• Why our brains naturally focus on danger and worst-case scenarios
• How childhood conditioning creates subconscious patterns
• The connection between fear, nervous system responses, and survival mode
• Why questioning what you've been taught is part of reclaiming your power
• Building awareness, trusting your intuition, and thinking for yourself

This isn't about telling you what to believe. It's about getting curious, questioning the narratives around you, and recognizing where fear may be influencing your choices.

✨ Because taking your power back starts with becoming aware of what's influencing you.

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Six months of podcasting, healing, unexpected challenges, and some pretty big life lessons! 🎙️✨

In this episode, Lisa and Desi are looking back at the last six months, sharing what’s worked, what hasn’t, and how their healing practices have supported them through grief, family relationships, personal growth, and unexpected changes.

Because healing isn't linear, and sometimes the biggest growth happens when life looks nothing like you expected.

In this episode:

• Celebrating six months of Real Talk Real Healing
• Navigating grief, family triggers, and emotional healing
• Building self-trust, listening to your intuition, and showing up boldly
• Changing habits and choosing what actually supports you
• Giving yourself grace when motivation and energy are low
• Finding inspiration again and allowing yourself to pivot
• The importance of community, support, and reflecting on how far you've come

Key Questions to Sit With:

• What's been working, and what hasn't?
• What's holding you back?
• How can you give yourself more grace in the season you're in?

Plus, we're sharing a little sneak peek at something exciting we're bringing back together! 👀💕

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Lisa is back solo with your October astrology update — and this one is packed.

If you've been feeling like your values are shifting, your relationships are getting more intense, or you keep asking yourself what you actually want anymore — you're not imagining it. The cosmos have a lot to say about October, and Lisa is breaking it all down in a way that actually makes sense for your real life.

In this episode:

• Why your moon sign might be the most important part of your birth chart — and what it reveals about how you process emotions
• A breakdown of all four moon sign elements: air, fire, earth, and water — and what each one needs to feel emotionally supported
• How to use the current cosmic weather to understand your moods, your patterns, and your relationships
• Venus retrograde in Scorpio and Libra — what it means, why it started in September, and what themes it's asking you to revisit before December 5th
• Why Lisa is connecting this retrograde back to 2018 — and how to look at your own life from that time for clues
• Mercury moving into Scorpio — what to watch for with communication and travel
• The Libra new moon on October 10th and the Taurus full moon on October 25th
• Why Scorpio season is a powerful time to go deep — but not alone
• How understanding your rising sign changes everything about how you read horoscopes
• Lisa's current astrology offerings: birth chart readings, 15-minute quick insight sessions, and bundle packages - check them out here

This is cosmic weather for your healing journey — practical, personal, and really fun.

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How do you know if you’re listening to your intuition… or getting caught up in fear, FOMO, and everyone else’s opinions?

In this episode, Lisa and Desi use a conversation happening in the coaching industry to explore intuition, discernment, self-trust, integrity, and staying in your own power. We’re talking about what happens when investments don’t go as expected, how easily we can outsource our decisions to other people, and why there doesn’t always have to be one person who is right and another who is wrong.

In this episode:

• Intuition vs. fear, FOMO, and outside noise
• What discernment actually means and how to practice it
• Investing in coaches and mentors without giving away your power
• Taking responsibility for your part without taking blame for everything
• Why two truths can exist at the same time
• Integrity and what it means to actually live your values
• Building community instead of comparison and division
• Learning to trust yourself when something doesn’t feel right

Because the goal isn’t to never make a “wrong” decision. It’s to build enough self-trust that when something doesn’t feel right, you don’t abandon yourself trying to make it righ

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What if the key to healing, manifesting, and feeling like yourself again was already built into your body?

This week Lisa and Desi welcome another guest — Gigi, registered nurse, neurosomatic practitioner, and founder of The Cyclical Women. Gigi is on a mission to help women stop fighting their bodies and start trusting them — through cycle awareness, nervous system regulation, and simple daily rituals that actually work.

And her story? It's one of the most raw, real, and inspiring ones they've had on the show yet.

In this episode:

• How postpartum anxiety became the breaking point that changed everything
• The breath work session that cracked her open — and led her to kundalini
• How her husband's comment about tampons and tennis sparked her entire mission
• The four phases of your cycle explained — what's actually happening hormonally and energetically in each one
• Why your nervous system is the conductor of your entire hormonal show
• How tracking your cycle for just a few months can completely change your relationships, your moods, and your life
• The luteal rage that was destroying her marriage — and how cycle awareness made it stop
• Why your healing journey doesn't have to look like anyone else's
• Gigi's Big Womb Energy 11-day challenge — and how it activates the lower three chakras for confidence, creativity, and safety in your body

This is the conversation every woman deserves to have — and probably never got growing up.

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🩸 Your Cycle Explained — The Four Phases

Menstrual (Inner Winter):

• All hormones at their lowest
• A time of quiet, rest, and inward focus
• Less hormonal noise — actually a clarifying time

Follicular (Inner Spring):

• Estrogen and FSH begin to rise
• Energy comes back online — you like people again
• Creative, social, beginning to feel yourself

Ovulatory (Inner Summer):

• Estrogen peaks — voice becomes more sultry, energy is magnetic
• Testosterone rises — motivation and drive are high
• The shortest phase: only about 4 days (48 hours of true peak)
• After ovulation, estrogen takes a nosedive — like the party girl leaving the party

Luteal (Inner Autumn):

• Progesterone comes online — calm, nesting, organizing energy
• BUT: when cortisol is chronically high (which it is for most women) progesterone gets bullied and can't do its job
• Result: PMS, rage, mood swings, depletion, feeling unlike yourself
• The nervous system is the conductor — regulate it and the whole hormonal orchestra plays better

🧠 The Nervous System & Your Hormones

• The nervous system is the conductor — hormones are the instruments
• A dysregulated nervous system = cortisol overload = progesterone suppression = PMS symptoms
• Practices like kundalini, Kriyas, and somatic work set a new nervous system baseline
• When cortisol goes down, oxytocin goes up — and everything else follows
• Gigi shares how her previously severe luteal rage (divorce papers level) is now gone — through nervous system work and cycle awareness

📓 How to Start Tracking Your Cycle
Gigi's simple daily practice:

• Note your cycle day (Day 1 = first day of full bleed, not spotting)
• Track your most prominent mood
• Track your energy level
• Note any physical symptoms — cramps, headaches, breast tenderness, cervical mucus

After 2-3 cycles you'll start to see solid patterns — and you can begin to support yourself proactively instead of being blindsided every month

Shadow Stalking the Luteal Phase:

• Notice when PMS symptoms or mood shifts consistently appear
• Ask what's coming up and why
• Support yourself through that phase instead of pushing through

About Gigi & Her Programs:

🌀 Big Womb Energy — 11-Day Practice Challenge - link here

• Starts October 1st
• Activates the lower three chakras: root (safety), sacral (creativity and flow), and solar plexus (self-sourced power)
• Uses kundalini and energy practices to regulate the nervous system and awaken your most expressed self
• Past participants have healed chronic back pain, called in desires, felt more regulated and confident, and had people notice a visible shift in their energy
• Perfect entry point for women new to this work

📚 The Cyclical Women Collective — Free Facebook Group - click here

• Monthly masterclasses including Divine Desire: How to Manifest Using the Power of Your Menstrual Cycle
• Community space for women to share and support each other

Gigi also works with women who have irregular cycles, are on birth control, have had hysterectomies, or are navigating perimenopause and menopause

Connect With Gigi:

• 📲 Instagram: @gloflo.withgigi
• 👥 Facebook Group: The Cyclical Women Collective
• 🔥 Big Womb Energy Challenge — starts October 1st (click here)

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• 📲 Instagram: @RealTalkRealHealingPodcast
• 💬 DM us — what landed most for you from this episode?
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Money is never just about money.

In this episode, Lisa and Desi get real about their own relationships with money, the beliefs they inherited growing up, and how those stories still show up today in spending, saving, avoiding, receiving, and investing in themselves.

We’re talking about the fear that comes up when you spend money on yourself, why investing in your growth can feel so much scarier than spending on something familiar, and how to start separating what you actually believe from the money stories you were handed.

This isn't about spending money you don't have or pretending financial responsibilities don't exist. It's about getting curious about what’s underneath your financial decisions and learning to make them from your own values instead of fear.

In this episode:

• The childhood money stories Lisa and Desi are still unraveling
• Scarcity, avoidance, guilt, and fear around money
• Why spending on yourself can feel harder than spending on everyone else
• What it actually means to “bet on yourself”
• Fear vs. intuition when making an investment
• Why worthiness and money can become so intertwined
• Shifting “I can't afford it” into more intentional money language
• Simple ways to become more conscious of how you spend, save, and receive

Key Questions to Sit With:

• What did I learn about money growing up?
• Whose money beliefs am I still carrying?
• What emotions come up when I spend money on myself?
• Am I saying no because it isn't right for me, or because I'm afraid?
• What do I actually value enough to invest my time, energy, and money into?

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Our very first guest is here. 🥹

In this episode, Lisa and Desi sit down with Elyse Berendson for a real conversation about divorce, motherhood, sobriety, relationships, and rebuilding your life when the version you thought you were supposed to have falls apart.

Elyse shares how she went from checking all the boxes career, marriage, house, motherhood while still feeling numb, to walking away from an unhealthy relationship and discovering healing in a completely new way.

We talk about breathwork, starting over, losing friendships as you change, dating after divorce, learning to be alone, and realizing that healing isn't about reaching some perfectly "healed" destination.

In this episode:

• The moment Elyse realized something had to change
• Recognizing unhealthy relationship patterns
• How breathwork became a major turning point in her healing
• Choosing sobriety and outgrowing parts of her old life
• Losing relationships and finding a new community
• Dating after divorce and refusing to settle
• Learning to recognize triggers without judging yourself
• Why healing looks different for everyone

Sometimes the life that falls apart is the one that leads you back to yourself.

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Find Elyse, her work, and everything mentioned in this episode through these links

https://www.instagram.com/elyseberendson

https://stan.store/elyseberendson

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This one has been a long time coming.

In this episode Lisa and Desi are getting real about their relationship with alcohol — the blackout years, the pandemic drinking, the liquid courage, the wine culture, the morning-after regret — and the slow, natural shift toward something more aligned.

This isn't an episode telling you to stop drinking. There's no judgment here. This is an invitation to get curious about why you drink, what need you're actually trying to meet, and whether the choice is genuinely yours — or just autopilot.

Because alcohol isn't the only thing this episode is about. Whether your vice is scrolling, food, cannabis, shopping, or avoiding — the question underneath it all is the same: what emotion are you trying not to feel?

In this episode:

• Lisa and Desi's honest, personal histories with alcohol — from blackout nights to conscious sobriety
• Why our generation was practically programmed to drink — and what's finally shifting
• The difference between consciously choosing a drink and just reaching for one on autopilot
• Why alcohol and other vices are actually distance from uncomfortable emotions
• Practical tools to become more conscious and intentional — before, during, and after drinking
• How to find other ways to meet the need alcohol was filling

A simple practice for next time:

• Before: What am I feeling? What do I actually need?
• During: Am I genuinely enjoying this or trying to change how I feel?
• After: How do I feel physically, emotionally, and energetically?

No shame. No labels. Just awareness — and the conscious choice to say yes to yourself.

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Key Questions to Sit With:

• How often do I drink without even questioning the decision?
• What emotions or situations make me want to reach for the thing?
• What am I hoping it will change or bring me?
• If alcohol wasn't available tonight, what emotion would I actually have to sit with?
• What does my body actually need right now?
• What am I saying yes to — and what am I saying no to?

Important Note:
This episode approaches alcohol and substances from a place of curiosity and consciousness — not shame, labels, or ultimatums. If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction, please seek professional support. Lisa and Desi are available to help point you in the right direction.

Tools & Resources Mentioned:

• 🧠 EFT Tapping — for working through urges and getting to the root emotion
• 💊 Ketamine therapy — Desi's experience using it intentionally to shift her relationship with alcohol
• 📱 Opal App — free app to block social media and create conscious boundaries around scrolling
• 🌀 Lisa's Instant Shift — 5-week live program with breathwork, meditation, and somatic practices. DM Lisa to join the next round starting now!
• 🌸 Desi's Inner Child Haven — 14-week signature program. Waitlist open. DM Desi for details

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What if the situation isn't actually the problem?

What if it's the meaning you're giving it — in the first five seconds after it happens — that's creating all the pain?

In this episode Lisa and Desi are diving into one of the most practical and powerful topics they've covered yet: how to shift your perspective when life feels like it's going sideways. And spoiler — it has a lot less to do with toxic positivity and a lot more to do with getting honest about the story you're telling yourself.

In this episode:

• Why the same situation can feel completely different depending on where you are emotionally, hormonally, and energetically
• How your menstrual cycle is directly affecting your perspective — and what to do about it in each phase
• The 3D, 4D & 5D framework for shifting out of survival mode and into your soul's perspective
• Why "rejection is protection" — and how to actually believe it in the moment
• The difference between surrendering and giving up — and why surrender creates more space for magic
• The BTFAR framework: Beliefs → Thoughts → Feelings → Actions → Results — and how to reverse engineer your life with it
• How to stop controlling the outcome and start co-creating with the universe
• Why "everything happens for a reason" doesn't always land — and what to say instead
• Practical reframes for when nothing feels like it's working
• How to pause before you react — and why that pause changes everything

Reflection Questions from this episode:

• What actually happened — and what am I making it mean?
• Do I actually know that the story I'm telling is true?
• What am I trying to control right now?
• What else could be true about this situation?
• How would I respond if I trusted that this part of my life could be easy?

This episode is a permission slip to stop spiraling, start observing, and choose a different perspective — one small reframe at a time.

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Tools & Resources Mentioned:

• 🌀 Lisa's Instant Shift — 5-week live program with breathwork, meditation, and Kriya practices to regulate your nervous system and shift your energy. Next round starts August 31st. DM Lisa to join
• 🌸 Desi's Inner Child Haven — 14-week signature program. The BTFAR framework is used in one of the healing eras. Waitlist open now. DM Desi for details
• 🔮 Astrology and moon tracking as tools for emotional awareness — listen to Lisa's solo astrology episode for more

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We're doing something a little different this week — and honestly? It was so much fun!!

Lisa and Desi are back with a 'hot takes' episode, rating real-life friendship and relationship scenarios as red flags 🚩 green flags 💚 or yellow flags 🟡 — and as always, keeping it real about what these things actually look like when you're on a healing journey.

From the friend who gets weird every time something good happens to you, to your partner asking for space during an argument — some of these are clear cut, some are more nuanced than you'd think, and all of them are conversations worth having.

The real talk? Most of these come down to one thing — the willingness to have uncomfortable conversations. And on a healing journey, that skill changes everything.

Drop a 🚩 💚 or 🟡 on our Instagram when this episode drops and let us know which ones you agreed or disagreed with — we want to hear from you!

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Reflection Questions:

• Where am I avoiding a difficult conversation right now?
• Am I making something mean more than it actually does?
• Which of these flags showed up most in my own life?

Connect With Us:

• 📲 Instagram: @RealTalkRealHealingPodcast — we're posting these scenarios on our stories, drop your flag in the comments
• 🎥 Watching on YouTube? Like, share, comment and tell us which flag hit home the most
• 💬 Want us to do another hot takes episode? Let us know!
• ⭐ Leave us a review

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You're not bad at manifesting. You're just manifesting from the wrong energy.

In this episode Lisa and Desi are diving deep into one of their favorite topics — and one of the most misunderstood. Manifestation isn't about thinking positive thoughts or writing things down on a vision board. It's about the energy, frequency, and identity you're actually living from every single day.

And if there's a gap between what you say you want and what keeps showing up in your life? This episode is going to show you exactly where to look.

In this episode:

• Why everything carries energy — and how you're feeling it before you even understand it
• The Map of Consciousness by David Hawkins and using it to understand your frequency
• Why you can't spiritually bypass your way to a higher vibration
• How to actually raise your energy: breathwork, movement, crying, shaking, nature, laughter and play
• The war on your attention — and why what you consume every day is programming you
• The real blocks stopping you from receiving (unworthiness, fear of being seen, hyper-independence, believing receiving has to be earned, and more)
• Why your inner child beliefs around money, love, and safety are running your manifestations
• Strive and surrender — what it actually means to let go without giving up
• The 8/8 Lion's Gate portal practice below
• Leo season and Jupiter in Leo — what this could mean for you (look at IG for your Rising sign!)
• How to become the version of you that can actually receive what you're calling in
• Lisa's Instant Shift program and what Kriyas are — and why they work

8/8 Portal Practice:

• 8 things you're ready to let go of
• 8 areas you're ready to declutter
• 8 things you're calling in — your big, specific dreams
• 8 action steps you're going to take to meet those desires

Reflection Questions:

• What am I giving most of my attention to right now?
• Am I genuinely aligned with what I say I want — or am I forcing positivity over unhealed wounds?
• How safe does my body actually feel receiving what I'm asking for?

This episode is a permission slip to stop forcing, start feeling, and finally become the version of you that's ready to receive.

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Tools & Resources Mentioned:

• 📖 The Map of Consciousness by David Hawkins (click here)
• 📖 The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks
• 📱 Opal App — free app to block social media and set boundaries around screen time
• 📱 Insight Timer — free meditation and breathwork app
• 📚 Desi's Energy Leaks Ebook — four ways to identify and shift where your energy is going.DM Desi to grab it
• 🌀 Lisa's Instant Shift — 5-week live program with weekly breathwork, meditation, and Kriya practices, plus a mini birth chart reading. DM Lisa to join the next round
• 🔮 Lisa's new 1:1 container combining astrology and kundalini practices — DM Lisa to learn more

Connect With Us:

• 📲 Instagram: @RealTalkRealHealingPodcast
• 💬 DM us what you're calling in during the 8/8 portal — we want to celebrate with you
• ⭐ Leave us a review

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Before the podcast, before the programs, before any of it — there was a decision.

A scary, expensive, what-am-I-doing decision that neither of us fully understood at the time. But it changed everything.

In this episode Lisa and Desi are pulling back the curtain and sharing the real story of how they found life coaching, what their lives looked like before it, how they met each other, and what finally led them to create Real Talk Real Healing together.

This one is personal. Raw. And exactly the kind of conversation they created this podcast for.

In this episode:

• What life looked like for both Lisa and Desi before they found coaching
• How they both stumbled across the same mentor and ended up in the same certification without knowing each other
• The big investment that changed everything — and the fear that almost stopped them
• What surprised them most about the certification (hint: it wasn't what they signed up for)
• How they met in person, lost touch, and found their way back to each other
• Imposter syndrome, self-doubt, and the real challenges of starting out as coaches
• What people assume about coaches and healers that isn't true
• What they'd tell their younger selves if they could go back

No highlight reel here. Just two women who said yes to themselves before they were ready — and never looked back.

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• 👩‍💼 Angie Lee — women's empowerment coach who introduced both Lisa & Desi to the coaching world
• 🌿 Samantha Skelly — founder of Hungry for Happiness, (now Pause Breathwork) their original life coaching certification mentor
• 📖 The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks — referenced for the upper limit concept
• 🌀 Lisa's Instant Shift — 5-week beta program, limited spots available. DM Lisa to learn more, next round happening soon!
• 🌸 Desi's Inner Child Haven — 14-week signature program. Waitlist now open. DM Desi for details
• Connect With Us:

• 📲 Instagram: @RealTalkRealHealingPodcast
• 💬 Head to our stories on the day this episode drops — we're doing a Q&A so you can ask us anything about our stories

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Healing doesn't just change your friendships. It changes how you show up inside of them.

Maybe you've started setting boundaries, speaking up for yourself, or realizing you no longer want surface-level relationships. But now you're wondering... how do I actually create the kind of friendships I want?

In Part 2 of our Relationships After Healing series, we're talking about what it looks like to build emotionally healthy, intentional friendships as an adult.

We'll explore why making friends feels harder as we get older, how to have honest conversations without creating stories in your mind first, why boundaries actually strengthen healthy relationships, and how your inner child may still influence the way you give and receive friendship.

In this episode, we'll explore:

• Why making friends as an adult feels so different
• How to build intentional, meaningful friendships
• Healthy communication and having difficult conversations
• Setting boundaries without guilt
• What healthy conflict actually looks like
• Becoming the kind of friend you're looking for
• Learning to receive support instead of always giving it
• Understanding how personality and emotional needs can shape friendships

If you've been searching for answers about adult friendships, making new friends, healthy boundaries, difficult conversations, or creating deeper relationships, this episode will give you practical tools and a new perspective on what healthy friendship can look like.

If this conversation resonated with you, it may be a sign that your inner child is still learning what safe, supportive relationships feel like.

Reflection Questions:

• Where am I settling in friendships?
• What boundaries am I afraid to set?
• What qualities do I want in my next season of friendships?
• Who makes me feel safe enough to fully be myself?

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Have you ever looked around and thought... "Why don't my friendships feel the same anymore?"

Maybe you're craving deeper conversations. Maybe you're setting boundaries for the first time. Or maybe you feel like you're outgrowing people you love, and it's leaving you feeling lonely, guilty, or wondering if something is wrong with you.

The truth is, healing doesn't just change the relationship you have with yourself. It changes the relationships around you, too.

In Part 1 of our Relationship Series, we're diving into why friendships naturally change as you heal, why outgrowing friendships can feel so painful, and how your inner child may still be influencing the people you feel connected to today.

In this episode, we'll explore:

• Why you're outgrowing certain friendships, and why it hurts so much
• How your inner child influences who you become friends with
• The difference between what's familiar and what's emotionally safe
• Why healing can feel lonely before it feels freeing
• Why your circle may get smaller before it grows
• How to navigate this season with more confidence and self-compassion

If you've been searching for answers about outgrowing friendships, feeling lonely during healing, setting boundaries with friends, or wondering why you feel disconnected from the people around you, I hope this episode reminds you that you're not broken.

You're growing.

If this conversation resonated with you, it may be a sign that your inner child is still longing for the safety, connection, and belonging she deserved all along.

Inside Inner Child Haven, we gently explore the younger parts of you that continue to shape your relationships, emotional reactions, boundaries, and sense of self, so you can create deeper, healthier connections without abandoning who you are.

If you're ready to take that next step, I'd love to support you. You can learn more about Inner Child Havenor book a Connection Call using these links.

💗 If this episode spoke to you, don't forget to follow the podcast, leave a review, or share it with a friend who needs this reminder today.

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Nobody talks about how uncomfortable growth actually feels in the middle of it.

Not the highlight reel version. The real version — where you're running a live event, getting a gut-punch text from your dad, questioning every decision you've made, and somehow still showing up anyway.

That's what Lisa and Desi are bringing to the table this week. Real talk about what expansion actually looks like, why your nervous system fights it every step of the way, and what it means to keep going even when every part of you wants to retreat back to comfortable.

In this episode:

• Why your comfort zone keeps you safe but also keeps you small
• The upper limit problem from The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks — and why we self-sabotage right before our next level
• Desi's real-time experience: leading an 8-day live event, facilitating in Mexico, and navigating a painful situation with her dad — all at the same time
• Lisa's journey of finally going all in on herself and her business after years of on-and-off coaching
• Why self-doubt doesn't disappear at the next level — and what to do with it when it shows up
• The role of coaches, healers, and mentors in your growth — and why being witnessed matters
• How to borrow someone else's belief system until yours catches up
• Three powerful questions to ask yourself when fear is making your decisions

Journal prompts from this episode:

• Where is life asking me to grow right now?
• What fear keeps showing up and talking me out of it?
• What would I do if I trusted myself a little more?
• What edge am I ready to lean into?

Growth isn't about becoming someone else. It's about becoming more of who you really are — and having the courage to choose that, even when it's scary.

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• 📖 The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks
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Have you ever stopped and wondered…

Am I actually this anxious… this independent… this people-pleasing… or did I become this because it felt safer?

In this episode, we're exploring the protective parts of ourselves that were created long before we had the words to explain them. These aren't personality flaws—they're survival strategies.

Episode Summary
As children, we couldn't change our environment, so we changed ourselves.

We became who we needed to be to feel safe, loved, accepted, or to avoid getting hurt. Over time, those adaptations became the identities we carried into adulthood—the people pleaser, the perfectionist, the overachiever, the strong one, the hyper-independent.

In this episode, Desi explores how these protectors are formed, why they're still running the show, and how healing isn't about getting rid of them—it's about understanding them with compassion. Because when you move from shame to curiosity, your authentic self finally has room to emerge.

What You'll Hear

• What protectors are and why every child develops them
• How your nervous system creates survival strategies to keep you safe
• Why people-pleasing, perfectionism, overachievement, hyper-independence, and emotional shutdown aren't personality traits—they're adaptations
• The powerful question every child asks: "What do I need to become to be loved, accepted, or avoid getting hurt?"
• Why your nervous system keeps using old strategies, even when you're no longer in danger
• The difference between your authentic self and your protective self
• Why healing isn't about fighting your protectors—it's about helping them feel safe enough to soften
• How curiosity creates lasting healing

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This isn't about fixing yourself—it's about understanding yourself with compassion and coming home to who you've always been.

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Lisa is flying solo this episode — and she's bringing the cosmic weather report you didn't know you needed.

With the full moon currently in Capricorn and Jupiter making a major move into Leo, there is a lot shifting in the sky right now — and it's affecting every single one of us. Whether you're brand new to astrology or you've been reading your horoscope since the magazine days, this episode breaks it all down in a way that's relatable, practical, and genuinely eye-opening.

In this episode:

• What your sun, moon, and rising signs actually mean — and why your rising sign is the most important one for reading horoscopes - Look up your Birth Chart here
• How the moon affects your emotions, your body, and your 28-day cycle
• What the full moon in Capricorn is asking you to release, reflect on, and realign with — especially mid-year
• Why Jupiter moving into Leo is a BIG deal and what it means for creativity, confidence, romance, and expansion
• Mini horoscopes for every rising sign — where this full moon and Jupiter in Leo are activating YOUR chart specifically

Full moon in Capricorn journal prompts:

• Where is my energy and focus since my January new moon intention?
• Have I made real progress — and where have I been sabotaging my own goals?
• What can I release or forgive right now?
• What can I do today that my future self will thank me for?

This is your cosmic permission slip to reflect, release, and step into the second half of the year with clarity and confidence. ✨

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Resources & Links:

• 🔮Book a Birth Chart reading or Oracle Card Reading with Lisa
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• Free Midweek Reset - once per month!
• 🌀 Instant Shift — Lisa's new 5-week beta program is launching soon with limited spots. Reach out now to learn more
• 📲 Find us at Real Talk Real Healing Podcast on Instagram
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We're taught to only celebrate the "big" stuff — graduations, weddings, promotions, buying a house. But what about the boundary you finally set? The toxic relationship you walked away from? The morning you got out of bed and showed up for yourself even though it was hard?

This week, Lisa and Desi are celebrating 10 episodes and 150+ downloads across multiple countries (!) — and using that milestone as a launchpad into a conversation about why we struggle to celebrate ourselves, and how to start.

In this episode, we cover:

• 🎉 Celebrating 10 episodes and 150+ downloads across the globe
• Why society only teaches us to celebrate "big" milestones (graduation, marriage, promotions, kids)
• The non-traditional milestones that deserve celebration too: healing through hard seasons, setting boundaries, leaving toxic relationships, showing up consistently
• Why we struggle to celebrate ourselves — productivity culture, comparison, and chasing the next goal
• The celebration frequency: how receiving and gratitude open you up to manifesting more
• Emotional milestones worth celebrating: responding instead of reacting, asking for help, releasing old labels, trusting yourself more deeply
• Creating your own celebration rituals — big or small
• Lisa's celebration: completing 40 days of 3:30am morning sadhana practice as part of her kundalini certification
• Desi's celebration: 90 women signing up for Sacred Return, Little Girl, Big Healing

Reflection Questions:

• What growth have I been overlooking?
• Where am I minimizing my progress?
• What am I celebrating this week?

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