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If you are only going to listen to one episode this is the one to listen to. In this episode I show how the cognitive elite will be revealed as the narcissistic projectors of their cognitive disability.

Science Professor and youtuber Professor Dave posted a video titled: Professor Jiang is an idiot.

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/1gMYDnLyOSc?rel=0&autoplay=0&showinfo=0&enablejsapi=0

He is not alone, there are many others attacking Professor Jiang, a fellow youtuber and substacker, whose channel is called Predictive History.

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Ipj_Tdzokzo?rel=0&autoplay=0&showinfo=0&enablejsapi=0

I hate to break it to them, they are showing their own limitations in thinking, not Professor Jiang’s.

They are showing their system conditioning into mindless zombies who protect the status quo. They are shooting themselves in the foot in the future we are facing. Because Professor Jiang is a whole picture thinker. He has the intelligence we need to survive the change coming. His ability to see the whole and create a map, that he can follow that will guide him through change, is key.

This is what my creative intelligence research has been laying down. How this intelligence functions. We all need this intelligence to adapt to the future we face. Yet our education systems force us out of this intelligence and into a cognitive myopia that reduces our functioning so we remain trapped in the system.

Professor Jiang is the beginning of wave of those who will replace the cognitive elite for the young who realize they need new teachers.

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A trio of creative women discussing how their gestalt creative intelligence was perceived and treated across three different decades. We cover topics ranging from labels to fables. We possess very different backgrounds, ages, experiences and live in three different countries. We have never met in person and yet we have found having friendship with each other quite easy. We have more in common than they have differences.

They met through the Creative Collective where we are collectively creating the science and education to prepare the next generation for the future they face. By sharing what we have experienced, good and bad, to help others see the value our whole intelligence offers and to stop harming the people and children like us. Almost child is born a whole picture gestalt creative thinker. In a system designed to break us, very few retain it. Which is a travesty because it is the intelligence we all need to heal, understand our environment and navigate great change.

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Welcome to The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast, where we explore the extraordinary minds of those who see the world differently. Host Lillian Skinner talks with independent researcher Allan White, a fascinating individual who has carved his own path in life. Allan, who has dyspraxia, joins us to shed light on this often-misunderstood neurotype and its surprising connections to conditions like Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

Together, they challenge traditional notions of intelligence, discussing how creative, holistic thinking and a strong connection between the body and mind are not just valuable—they're essential for thriving in a rapidly changing world. Allan’s journey from a childhood of feeling misunderstood to embracing his unique neurodivergence as a source of genius offers profound insight and hope for anyone who has ever felt like an outlier.

Tune in as they discuss:

• The connection between dyspraxia and hypermobility.
• How physical and creative pursuits can unlock deeper levels of intelligence.
• The societal pressures to conform to "average" and the high cost of doing so.
• The importance of embracing a multi-dimensional way of thinking to navigate the future.

This episode is a celebration of what it means to be truly intelligent—not by society's narrow definition, but by the power of our integrated minds and bodies. Join us to learn how embracing our authentic selves can be our greatest strength.

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This episode of the Gifted Creative Podcast delves deeply into Aesop's fable of the City Mouse and the Country Mouse. It unpacks the metaphorical significance of the story, interpreting the city mouse as individuals who live in perpetual stimulation and under control, while the country mouse represents creatives who thrive in slower natural environments that offer freedom and simplicity. It questions the design of urban environments, much like the city mouse's luxurious but perilous surroundings. The podcast reviews historical manipulation of societal values to favor urban living, that suppress holistic creative intelligence. The podcast covers how cities rise and fall. Finally it examines where not to live for those who want to develop their full scope of creative intelligence.

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In this episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Child Podcast, the host provides a deep analysis and personal perspective on 'The Little Prince.' The discussion covers themes of holistic versus fragmented intelligence, and how children's stories encapsulate profound wisdom often missed in adult narratives. The host recounts their own childhood interactions with the story and critiques traditional adult behaviors reflected in the archetypes of the story. The episode emphasizes the importance of maintaining holistic intelligence and emotional connection, both in personal relationships and as a broader societal critique.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

00:14 Summary and Personal Reflections on The Little Prince

00:56 Childhood Memories and Changing Perspectives

01:17 The Holistic vs. Fragmented Intelligence

03:33 The Little Prince's Journey and Characters

06:46 Lessons from The Little Prince

12:01 The Fox and the Concept of Taming

13:32 The Snake and the Red Pill Moment

14:49 Final Reflections and Conclusion

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In this episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast, the focus is on the myth of Cassandra of Troy and the societal dynamics that led to her downfall and the collapse of Troy. Cassandra, who could see the future with perfect accuracy, was ostracized because her dire predictions clashed with the self-serving perspectives of those in power, particularly her father, King Priam. The analysis delves into the neurological and psychological contrasts between Cassandra's multidimensional thinking and the two-dimensional, hierarchical thinking promoted by Troy's leadership. The discussion highlights how societies systematically suppress and marginalize individuals with unique insights, ultimately leading to their downfall. The pattern of dismissing truth-tellers like Cassandra is shown to be a recurring theme throughout history and cultures.

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In this episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent podcast, delves into the Tower of Babel story from the Old Testament, exploring its deeper meaning through the lens of holistic intelligence and societal fragmentation. Initially puzzled by the story as a child, I now interpret it as a metaphor for the division of human intelligence into cognitive and somatic parts. I argue that modern society overvalues cognitive intelligence, leading to a dismissal of big-picture, holistic thinking and the marginalization of creative individuals.
The discussion covers the historical and modern implications of this fragmentation, the importance of holistic intelligence, and the role of neurodivergence in maintaining a blended cognitive and somatic perspective. It concludes by emphasizing the need to nurture holistic intelligence in the face of societal and technological changes, urging listeners to reconnect with their innate capacity for empathy, creativity, and multidimensional thinking.

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In this episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent podcast, host Lillian Skinner welcomes Christian Janee, a nurse practitioner and polymath with exceptional somatic intelligence. They discuss Christian's calming presence and the undervalued profound somatic intelligence. Christian shares her journey, her holistic approach to care, her book 'Almost a Wife,' and her coaching program 'Learning to Love Again.' The conversation touches on the importance of relational thinking, pattern recognition, and the future of holistic healing in medicine. Together, they explore how somatic intelligence can help navigate life's challenges and heal from within.

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In this Halloween episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast the discussion revolves around how societal misconceptions create 'monsters' out of those with neurodivergent intelligence. The podcast delves into how supernatural figures such as vampires, werewolves, and witches symbolize different forms of neurodivergent abilities—autism, somatic intelligence, and integrated intelligence, respectively. Through passionate anecdotes and observations, Skinner highlights how society’s isolation, misunderstanding, and exploitation of these individuals lead to their 'monstrous' portrayal. She calls for societal change to recognize and nurture neurodivergent talents rather than marginalize them, emphasizing the need for empathy and acceptance to uncover these hidden gifts. The episode concludes with an urge to turn negative labels into positives, fostering a community that appreciates and values outlier strengths.

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Navigating Uncertain Times: A Journey from the U.S. to Portugal.

In this episode, we discuss the challenges and tough decisions facing many in the United States as it heads toward times of great change, unrest, and potential collapse. In this episode we highlight the experience of J.D. Goulet, a gifted neurodivergent writer, who made the move to Portugal a little over a year ago. We explore the process and choices involved in seeking a better future abroad.

You Can Find J.D. On Blue Sky and Substack here:
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In this episode of The Gifted Podcast we dive into the concept of degrowth with special guest Matt Orsagh, the author of the newsletter 'Degrowth is the Answer.' Matt shares his personal journey, from obtaining degrees in English, film, and finance, to advocating for a shift away from GDP-focused growth.

We discuss the environmental and societal benefits of a wellbeing-based economy, touching on issues like universal basic income, shorter work weeks, and sustainable living. Matt also highlights the importance of building community and living within planetary boundaries to ensure a better future for upcoming generations.

00:00 Introduction to the Gifted Podcast

00:22 Meet Matt Orsagh: Author of The Newsletter 'Degrowth is the Answer'.

00:45 Matt's Journey: From Finance to Degrowth

03:48 Understanding Degrowth and Its Importance

04:38 The Concept of Planetary Boundaries

06:54 Degrowth in Practice: Work, Income, and Community

16:33 Challenges and Benefits of a Wellbeing Economy

21:58 Future Perspectives on Economic Systems

22:48 The Changing Attitudes Towards Capitalism

23:26 Generational Shift in Political Power

24:38 Critique of American Individualism

26:22 The Role of Advertising in Consumerism

27:13 Discovering Degrowth

29:12 Historical Context of Environmental Awareness

33:27 Future Challenges and Adaptations

36:43 The Importance of Community and Communication

40:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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This episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast explores the unique intersection of emotional intelligence and foresight with guest Tuomas Malinen, an economics forecaster.

The conversation delves into the profound impact of emotions on cognitive processing and the power of neurodivergent perspectives in navigating a rapidly changing world. Tuomas shares his personal journey through harm OCD and meditation, revealing how deep emotional processing can transform chaos into clarity and kindness. The episode emphasizes the importance of recognizing and utilizing our full spectrum of intelligence—cognitive, somatic, and emotional—to foster creativity, resilience, and positive change.

00:00 Introduction to the Gifted Podcast

00:20 Meet Tuomas Malinen: Economist and Forecaster

00:58 Tuomas' Background and Career Journey

01:37 Understanding Forecasting and Geopolitical Insights

02:29 The Role of Neurodivergence in Foresight

04:14 Meditation and Intuition in Overcoming OCD

06:06 Parenting Prodigies and Systemic Challenges

11:35 The Hero's Journey and Masculinity

17:58 Embracing Emotions and Somatic Intelligence

25:08 Navigating Relationships and Personal Boundaries

30:29 Emotional Resilience and Genius

31:27 The Power of Emotional Processing

33:25 Violence and Kindness: A Personal Journey

35:16 Childhood Trauma and Cognitive Growth

36:50 Navigating Emotions and Sensitivity

47:21 Forecasting and Future Scenarios

50:23 The Power of Individual Action

53:40 Creativity and Community Building

01:00:11 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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Trigger Warning: This episode contains brief references to attempted suicide.

In this episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast, I interview Ethan R. Gibson, author of 'Nonchalant Perfectionism'. You can find his book here: https://a.co/d/c9fnsTs.

At just 21, Ethan wrote this book reflecting on his journey from addiction and an attempted suicide to his experiences working in a group home for young sex offenders—a journey that offered insights into the therapeutic potential of fostering emotional resilience and self-awareness from a young age.

Despite having no prior writing experience or formal training, Ethan wrote, edited, and published his first book. We discuss how intense emotions fueled his creative process. It might be more accurate to say that his emotions galvanized his intellect to create this book. We also explore how somatic giftedness manifests and how Ethan did something our educational systems often claim is impossible: he created without being instructed. Being twice-exceptional with pronounced somatic giftedness is why this was possible. In other words, Ethan is a savant.

Ethan shares his personal struggle with perfectionism, the pressures of societal expectations, and his journey towards understanding and constructively using his emotions. He highlights the value of negative emotions as a catalyst for creativity and profound change.

00:00 Welcome to the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
00:04 Introducing Ethan Gibson: A Journey of Nonchalant Perfectionism
00:25 The Power of Somatic Intelligence in the Neurodivergent Community
01:44 Ethan's Personal Journey: From Perfectionism to Emotional Awareness
21:09 Understanding Emotional Resilience and Sensitivity
24:15 Navigating Personal Connections and Emotional Boundaries
24:47 Exploring Emotional Management Through Physical Activities
25:49 The Creative Process and Overcoming Personal Struggles
26:12 The Journey of Writing and Self-Discovery
30:57 Addressing Emotional Resilience and Recovery
36:28 Insights from Working in a Group Home for Young Offenders
46:29 Reflecting on Personal Growth and the Power of Negative Emotions
52:27 Concluding Thoughts on Creativity, Healing, and Emotional Value

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In the realm of cognitive brilliance, the stories that resonate most are those that challenge conventional perceptions and unfold the rich tapestry of human intellect and emotion. Lillian Skinner, the host of the **Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast**, introduces us to Anshar Seraphim—a figure of remarkable cognitive intelligence and a testament to the extraordinary capacities of neurodivergent individuals.

Anshar's journey from being predominantly nonverbal, with autism, to becoming a beacon of insight and empathy is nothing short of inspiring. Navigating through the challenges of a late autism diagnosis, sensory processing issues, and synesthesia, Anshar illuminates the intricate relationship between neurodiversity and personal growth. His story underscores the importance of understanding and accepting one's neurodivergence as a unique asset rather than a limitation.

An essential theme that emerges from the conversation is the profound role sensitivity plays in shaping one's intellectual and emotional landscape. Both Lillian and Anshar share how their heightened sensitivities have been pivotal in their journeys. This sensitivity, often seen as a hindrance, is reframed as a powerful tool for creativity, learning, and adaptation.

The dialogue takes a critical turn as it questions the traditional educational system's ability to nurture neurodivergent individuals. Lillian and Anshar explore the notion that the system, in many ways, stifles creativity and forces conformity at the expense of personal and intellectual freedom. They advocate for a society that values and cultivates the unique abilities of neurodivergent individuals, allowing them to contribute in ways that align with their innate strengths.

A recurring motif in the discussion is the transformative power of finding community—a group of peers who reflect and understand each other's experiences. For Lillian and Anshar, connecting with like-minded individuals has been instrumental in their personal and professional development. This sense of belonging and mutual understanding fosters a nurturing environment where individuals can thrive and explore their potential without fear of judgment.

As the conversation draws to a close, Lillian and Anshar contemplate the future of neurodivergence in an evolving world. They touch upon the potential impacts of artificial intelligence, environmental challenges, and societal shifts on neurodivergent individuals. The discussion points towards a need for adaptive strategies that leverage neurodiverse talents and sensitivities to navigate the complexities of the 21st century.

The insightful exchange between Lillian Skinner and Anshar Seraphim shines a light on the intricacies of neurodivergence and the untapped potential that lies within. It challenges us to rethink our views on intelligence, education, and societal norms. By embracing and celebrating the diversity of the human mind, we can foster a world that appreciates the full spectrum of brilliance and enables everyone to find their path to success and fulfillment.

The conversation between Lillian and Anshar serves as a powerful reminder that in the journey toward understanding and valuing neurodivergence, we are not just uncovering new ways of thinking; we are rediscovering the essence of what it means to be authentically human.

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In this podcast I speak with Irene Gottlieb about the Trifecta of syndromes that impacts many of the most sensitivity individuals. Irene is profoundly gifted, runs a school for the profoundly gifted and has three children who are profoundly gifted. She has a lot of day to day experience with individuals who possess the trifecta of: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS), Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS).

Irene has a lot of experience researching the Trifecta. First as the mother of three children who have have the trifecta and second as the founder of a school where it is quite common. I originally heard Irene talk on this subject over the summer of 2023. I went to the talk knowing my family had two of these syndromes and left knowing we actually had all three of these syndromes. There is very little information on these syndromes, particularly MCAS, and Irene is one of the most knowledgeable people I know on the subject. I asked her to join me on my podcast and she graciously gave me 7 hours of her time during which we recorded this multi-part podcast.

POTS Defined

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/16560-postural-orthostatic-tachycardia-syndrome-pots

Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Defined

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ehlers-danlos-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20362125

Mast Cell Activation Syndrome Defined

https://www.aaaai.org/conditions-treatments/related-conditions/mcas

PART 2 CAN BE ACCESSED HERE.

https://giftednd.substack.com/p/part-2-discussion-on-pots-eds-mcas

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I believe the obesity epidemic signifies a sensitivity to the schedules imposed by our systems on everyone. Obesity, in my view, is a consequence of the struggle to conform to increasingly restrictive and demanding systems, coupled with a diminishing nutritional quality in our food supply. The choices we make regarding nutrition are driven by the need for increasing dopamine rewards, which, in the short term, help us adhere to our schedules.

Obesity rates are on the rise across all Western societies. While it was initially observed in the most sensitive individuals, it now appears that either sensitivity is increasing or our societal systems breaking down are pushing everyone into a situation where fitting into the schedules we first learn in school is no longer feasible. I am concerned that as our society approaches its end, we may find few individuals healthy enough to bring about the necessary changes for a successful transition.

The research landscape in this area is still evolving, and recent insights suggest that others are also discovering connections between neurodivergence and obesity. You can explore this in the following supporting papers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9775563/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7551752/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6356459/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10519741/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7335278/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8775294/
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fped.2020.535705/full

The ongoing journey to comprehend the intricate interplay between higher cognition, neurodivergence, and obesity has given rise to another theory.

One I am asking for your feedback on. Do you find this to be true for you? Please let me know at info@giftednd.com.

In neurotypicals the cognitively mind breaks before the body does. This is the purpose of boot camp. To break the mind and build it back as a no thinking enlisted body for war. (NT)

In neurodivergents the sensing body breaks before the mind does. This is what college is for. It breaks our body to make it a slave to the needs of the mind. (ND)

In the 2e, those of us with both high sensing and cognitive intelligence, there is a constant battle for resources between the two. For us the emotions and intellect must connect for us to be mentally and physically healthy.

For the 2e it is mental agony to have them separate and everything in our society insists they be separated. This only serves the powerful not the individual or the society. Separation manifests illness in both mind and body. But when your emotions and intellect connected your syndromes, your sensitivity and your highly aware neurodivergent brain functioning help you find your optimum functioning. (2e)

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It's another episode on Free Will, this time from the system perspective or 2D perspective. Using the viewpoint of Daniel Dennett, I review the 2D perspective of Free Will, illustrating how it contrasts with Robert Sapolsky's perspective and my own.

Daniel Dennett is known as the "Father of Modern Philosophy." He is a neuroscientist and the head of the Philosophy Department at Tufts University. In this podcast, I reviewed the following documents covering Daniel Dennett's perspective on Free Will:

• Big Think interview with Daniel Dennett
• YouTube video: Daniel Dennett on Free Will
• YouTube video: Daniel Dennett - The Magic of Consciousness
• "Kinds of Minds: Toward an Understanding of Consciousness" by Daniel C. Dennett
• "I've Been Thinking..." written by Daniel C. Dennett

I'll be very honest with you; I am not a fan of Daniel Dennett. I find his writings and lectures to be like climbing a very tall ladder, with many different concepts all precariously stacked on top of each other, yet never connected. I love learning, except from him. When I listen to or read Daniel Dennett, I am reminded of all the professors I had that did not want students to ask questions.

He does not explain his thoughts in a manner that makes them accessible but rather in a way that makes them inaccessible. I think this is the sign of a highly cognitive thinker who lacks empathy for his audience. He forces the listener to do mental gymnastics to understand his thoughts. I believe he is indicative of issues we see in all the current humanities, except for anthropology. The American universities are are staffed by people who believe the masses are stupid and unable to think for themselves. They have turned the humanities into a religion, with only those who agree being right and those who disagree being wrong. This has contributed to our country's mental health crisis. It seems to me that those who run the humanities are educated but have not lived. They do not know how to reach their audience, and they do not care to do so. They think the audience should simply do as they say and not think for themselves.

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Happy New Year, Everyone!

It's 2024, and this year, instead of making resolutions on how you can improve yourself, I want you to do the opposite. I want you to radically accept yourself exactly as you are. I would like this year to be the best year of your life. I want you to see only the amazing things you can do and all the potential you have.

In this podcast, I cover Robert Sapolsky's book, "Behave." This voluminous book covers all the reasons why we do not have free will. There are many. For some reason others find this disheartening. I personally find this liberating. If we don't have free will, why are we all working so hard to do what others want us to do? Why are we worrying about the future? Why worry about making the right or even best choice? If we have no free will then why not spend our life focused on what makes us feel alive and the rest should fall into place.

As a gifted neurodivergent, I have come to realize there is so much in place in our system that actively thwarts my success. I worked very hard trying to fulfill the potential they said I had—the potential to be slightly better than average, the potential to make other people a lot of money. When I finally gave up, left the system, and pivoted to what I wanted to do, everything got so much easier. I was no longer working against myself; I was working for myself. I was working in a manner that seemed like I was always supposed to work. I was doing exactly what I was always meant to do.

Every minute I spend working on the things I was told I was not supposed to work on because I was here to be productive and serve the system, I have been happier. I want this for you too. I want your life to get better each year. The rest of the world may be falling apart, but we are finally getting the chance to be freed enough to pull ourselves together.

Robert Sapolsky's book "Behave" - I love this author. I recommend all of his books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behave_(book)

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Dr. Linda Silverman's Notes
December 13, 2023
1. Variation of ways I have seen spatial giftedness manifest.
All endeavors in which the right hemisphere has major involvement.
Creativity
Imagination
Intuition
Empathy
Mathematical and scientific interests
Big picture thinkers in all fields
Thinking outside the box
The ability to predict trends
Understanding customer needs
Design
Fine arts
Photographic memory
Spiritual awareness
The ability to grasp non-duality
Psychic ability
2. In how many areas does spatial giftedness manifest?
Countless
3. What are the highest and lowest manifestations of math, music and emotions?
In mathematics, the highest manifestation might be grasping the mathematics of the universe.
The lowest might be an attraction to numbers and counting.
In music, the highest manifestation might be the ability to compose inspiring music.
The lowest might be appreciation of music.
In emotions, the highest manifestation might be the ability to deeply feel what others are feeling.
The lowest might be emotional intensity without the ability to direct it compassionately.
4. Life-changing aspects of spatial abilities.
As visual-spatial abilities are innate, they are part of the life path of the individual. VSLs see the
world differently from birth. As they are capable of going beyond duality, they are likely to forge
unusual lifestyles, outside the norms of society (e.g., bisexuality, being nonbinary, etc.). Their
sharp intuitive abilities also make them excellent salespersons.
5. What were my first indications that things were not as the education and medical system
said they were?
One of my earliest memories, at around the age of 4, was hearing my older sister say to our
parents, “You made me the way I am!” “I didn’t ask to be born!” I was certain that she was
wrong. I knew that we create our own realities. At 19, I married a man who became a psychic

healer. I lived with miracles. Once I told my Statistics instructor that I didn’t believe in chance.
Education tends to be highly competitive, and the prevailing viewpoints on giftedness are highly
competitive. I have always believed that each of us has a unique mission, and that we don’t
compete with anyone for our destiny. As for medicine, many doctors seed fear in their patients
on the assumption that they are “protecting” them, when they are actually acting out of self-
interest, trying to protect themselves. When the field of medicine finally understands the mind-
body connection, there will be a major shift in medical practice and more effective outcomes.
6. What is the self-motivated journey I went on to where I am today?
I don’t believe I have been self-motivated. The field of giftedness is a calling for me. I was called
to it when I was 17. I believe I am continuing the work of Leta Stetter Hollingworth, who passed
away shortly after I was born. There are so many uncanny connections between us—even our
stubby thumbs!
7. What surprised me the most on my journey? The least?
I was shocked that the testing industry actually listened to me. I was least surprised that the
competitive achievement mindset of the field stubbornly persists.
8. How are empathy and intuition connected with the development of spatial giftedness?
Visual-spatial abilities, empathy and intuition are all connected through the right hemisphere. I
don’t see any of them as “developing”; rather, I believe that they are innate gifts. Individuals
with high visual-spatial abilities can manifest these abilities in endless ways, from flower
arrangements to living a life completely devoted to service.

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This episode is the third and final podcast of the "Overexcitabilities" series.

In the last podcast, I shared how my overexcitabilities played a crucial role in fostering my learning. They emerged when I was either exhausted or excited to aid me in subconscious or immersive learning. In this podcast, I delve into the challenges posed by overexcitabilities in the classroom. I illustrate how teachers and educational systems suppress highly sensitive learners, actively hindering their potential growth. I highlight the disregard of current scientific data around the needs of profoundly gifted students, subjecting them to standards they simply cannot sustain and a learning environment that prevents them from learning.

In a straightforward manner, I demonstrate how our educational systems can break the brightest and most sensitive children. Even those, like myself, who were mild-mannered and exhibited limited psychomotor overexcitabilities.

Using 20 classroom rules of conduct that are found in a typical elementary classroom (in the USA) I illustrate how 19 of these rules appear almost perfectly designed to stifle the learning experiences of those with high sensing intelligence. I discuss the different focus of creatives (the highest sensing) and how this distinction is used against them in traditional classroom settings. The combination of the classroom environment and teaching methods often forces twice-exceptional (2e) and gifted sensing intelligent children to exert much more effort than their peers. This creates a situation where these children are pushed into a state of overexcitabilities every day, only to be repeatedly punished and demeaned for their inability to control their behavior.

I propose redefining "2e" (twice exceptional) from its current meaning—learning differently and cognitively gifted—to giftedness in both sensing and cognition. I argue that the reason our systems struggle to accurately test 2e intelligence in their most gifted areas is that the IQ of these individuals falls above the testing range of our quantitative tests, which typically tops out at a 145 IQ. The hard is simple and simple is hard rule for autism indicates complex spatial giftedness that is going uncultivated by our current system. I believe the key distinction between 2e giftedness and "normal" giftedness lies in the sensing intelligence.

I posit that our current system definition of giftedness is confined to cognitive intelligence and introduce a giftedness found in sensing intelligence (higher sensing) that can manifest without high cognitive giftedness. I specifically identify this giftedness in individuals with high empathy but I believe it occurs in various other ways as well. Ways I have discussed in previous episodes of this podcast and ways that I plan to explore in future podcasts. I advocate for recognizing high sensitivity as a form of giftedness, just as much as high cognitive giftedness, and stress the importance of cultivating creative education with every available tool.

I reference the following in this podcast.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/jeff-bezos-homeless
https://www.crf-usa.org/images/pdf/bria_37_4-tlaxcalan.pdf
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